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  1. FlorinTi's Avatar
    How come a 1900mAh Li-Ion Battery (iPhone 6) can handle about 20% more workload than a 2400mAh Li-Ion (Classic)?

    1. Is the iOS more efficiently integrated with the 3rd party apps than BB10?

    2. Does the BlackBerry actually index or process more?

    3. Is Apple buying more efficient battery cells?

    4.....
    5........
    6.............

    BB10 vs. iOS Battery Saving Technology-img_20150211_144453.png

    I love my BB10 device, migrated from long time Windows-to-iOS-to-Android changee to BlackBerry Passport- then Classic-user.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 06:48 AM
  2. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    I'd say that hardware matters a lot when it comes to this so starting to look at operating system differences will not give you the entire picture.
    02-11-15 06:59 AM
  3. smhkrlv's Avatar
    An interesting discussion topic. I would like to know the reason of this as well. But I think answer is that ios is an better optimized os. Os10 is relatively new. After every update the optimization will be better

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    02-11-15 07:00 AM
  4. deltact's Avatar
    I am aware there's an old article explaining how iOS handles multi-tasking: nothing runs in the background except for GPS and VoIP apps. BB10 probably has more stuff running.

    Posted via CB10 on Passport.
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    02-11-15 07:43 AM
  5. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    I am aware there's an old article explaining how iOS handles multi-tasking: nothing runs in the background except for GPS and VoIP apps. BB10 probably has more stuff running.

    Posted via CB10 on Passport.
    This is not entirely true. Apps do wakeup in the background too in Android and iOS despite screen is off. It's usually an app that is continuously executing that is prevented but it is also possible to override this.
    02-11-15 08:13 AM
  6. deltact's Avatar
    This is not entirely true. Apps do wakeup in the background too in Android and iOS despite screen is off. It's usually an app that is continuously executing that is prevented but it is also possible to override this.
    Thank you for the correction, I greatly oversimplified. Here is the article I referred to:
    http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/...titasking.html

    No doubt things have changed a fair bit in 4 years, even on iOS.

    Posted via CB10 on Passport.
    02-11-15 09:05 AM
  7. Morten's Avatar
    What apps are you using?

    Only iOS apps from Apple, and only BB10 apps from BlackBerry?


    How do you compare the workload?



    My Z30 and Passport outperforms iPhone 6 every day on normal use, which leads me to think that you might have some 3rd party apps on the BlackBerry that's not behaving too well, or perhaps even running Android apps?
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    02-11-15 09:26 AM
  8. FlorinTi's Avatar
    I wiped three days ago my BlackBerry Classic and didn't install any 3rd party apps at all. The graphic shows my today's drainage with cb 10 app as the sole installed 3rd party.

    I use:
    Embedded Evernote app
    Remember
    4x email accounts with aprox. 50 mails in/out per day
    Whatsapp and BBM
    Light text browsing
    4G&3G preferred
    Text reading and editing with docs to go and adobe reader
    No onedrive sync
    No dropbox or box sync
    550 merged contacts

    Same usage with iPhone 6 but with installed evernote app etc.

    Maybe it's the actual battery cell....

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 09:39 AM
  9. gg bb's Avatar
    2 reasons.

    Apple can get very latest chips = probably 20nm process = more efficient.

    BlackBerry if you run android app or even apps from BlackBerry world not built for BlackBerry then your running extra software layer = less efficient.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 09:43 AM
  10. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Show us the past 48 hours or so. And the cpu graph

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 09:43 AM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    2 reasons.

    Apple can get very latest chips = probably 20nm process = more efficient.

    BlackBerry if you run android app or even apps from BlackBerry world not built for BlackBerry then your running extra software layer = less efficient.

    Posted via CB10
    3rd reason is the iOS apps do less in the background in general.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 09:45 AM
  12. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    One thing I forgot to ask is, do you experience that it the battery drains unusually high when you are not using the phone or when you are using the phone. Can you describe when and how you are using your phone according to the graph.
    02-11-15 10:05 AM
  13. FlorinTi's Avatar
    BB10 vs. iOS Battery Saving Technology-img_20150211_175622.png


    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:09 AM
  14. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Need to see the items under the graph too. Is PIM one of the higher ones?

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:13 AM
  15. FlorinTi's Avatar
    I will try to make a time-line tomorrow of exact times when I use bluetooth in car, reading, text editing and calling.

    I usually have the reflex to switch the display off after I quick-respond to text or end a call. My display is set at 50% brightness.


    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:22 AM
  16. FlorinTi's Avatar
    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:24 AM
  17. FlorinTi's Avatar
    BB10 vs. iOS Battery Saving Technology-img_20150211_182344.png

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:24 AM
  18. Rustybronco's Avatar
    Does the Iphone run the digitizer when the screen is blanked?
    02-11-15 10:46 AM
  19. TrueKulcha's Avatar
    System usage is unusually high there. At least compared to what I usually see on Z30 or passport. Only device that showed anything close to that was a water damaged Z30.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:48 AM
  20. FlorinTi's Avatar
    I can return it... it's just 9x days old

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:50 AM
  21. FlorinTi's Avatar
    Maybe it is the Li-Ion cell...

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:55 AM
  22. TrueKulcha's Avatar
    BB10 vs. iOS Battery Saving Technology-img_20150211_114946.png
    This is very typical of what I see.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 10:56 AM
  23. co4nd's Avatar
    Apple designs it's own SoCs to work efficiently with it's OS, and they do focus on power usage. Blackberry uses off the shelf SoCs. Not sure if this is the reason, but it seems like it should have some effect.
    Last edited by co4nd; 02-11-15 at 11:41 AM.
    02-11-15 11:30 AM
  24. gg bb's Avatar
    Apple designs it's own SoCs to work efficiently with it's OS, and they do focus on power usage. Blackberry uses off the shelf SoCs. Not sure if this is the reason, but it seems like it should have some effect.
    Sounds more like the reason they give.

    Posted via CB10
    02-11-15 12:25 PM
  25. Andy Wijaya's Avatar
    The iOS is very efficient when idle. Like really, efficient. Almost no noticeable decrease of battery juice, if the phone is not used, while the BlackBerry 10 devices still use around. 0.5 - 1 % battery per hour when they're idle. I really wish that they can improve it with the next OS update!
    02-11-15 01:16 PM
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