1. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    Are the number of actions needed when doing the same exact things on each device LESS on BB10?

    Example being like entering a note, making a calendar entry, adding a contact, deleting 10 emails, selecting a bookmark, search for a specific email, etc.
    11-05-14 09:29 PM
  2. nah.uhh's Avatar
    No. Not even close.

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    11-05-14 10:37 PM
  3. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Overall? Depends on the user.
    11-05-14 10:39 PM
  4. nah.uhh's Avatar
    Are the number of actions needed when doing the same exact things on each device LESS on BB10?

    Example being like entering a note, making a calendar entry, adding a contact, deleting 10 emails, selecting a bookmark, search for a specific email, etc.
    Entering a note/task
    BBOS: open memopad, start typing and save
    BBOS: open tasks, start typing, hit enter and save
    BB10: open remember, switch to tasks or notes, start typing hit enter to save
    BB10 makes you choose between tasks / notes first, but doesn't require the save step. So I'd say about equal here.

    I won't comment on calendar, I don't use it much.

    Adding a contact - bb10 doesn't support custom fields and has a weird way of editing linked contacts. Otherwise pretty similar.

    Deleting 10 emails - bb10 multi selection is non existent. BBOS wins this round easily
    Edit:BlackBerry 10 has ctrl+click (1 by 1) style multi select
    BlackBerry OS has shift+click (select multiple.. but only in sequence)
    Editeedit: bb10 also has triage mode, which let's you delete/ mark or file emails 1 by 1.

    Selecting a bookmark - bb10 only allows "Show last tabs/ home page / start page". Start page shows a mix of your top visited sites and bookmarks. I prefer BBOS style of having bookmarks and history.

    BBOS let you set custom search urls manually.. bb10 only works if the browser can detect the search engine..
    BBOS let you turn off Javascript etc. Overall, the BB10 browser is better but it's a weak browser with no features. Yeah, I said it, and it's true. When clearing history, there is only 2 buttons "clear history" and "clear cookies and other data". On BBOS, you could clear cookies without clearing your saved passwords. Not possible in bb10.

    It's mobile emulation isn't respected by most websites (google play, docs etc), it's desktop mode works but breaks some websites.

    It auto plays media in the background when you visit a website http://www.pcworld.com/article/21192...e_devices.html for example
    BBOS has the option "enabled embedded media"

    Search for specific email works better on BBOS for Gmail. Right now, on bb10, remote searching on imap only pulls results from the inbox unless you specifically tell it to search sent /trash/junk etc
    Also with no bis, there is no custom email filters...


    If you use type keyboard shortcuts, q10 doesn't do that.
    Keyboard shortcuts coming in 10.3.1.. but IIRC when on the home screen, you'll have to hold the key.

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    Last edited by nah.uhh; 11-06-14 at 10:09 AM.
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    11-05-14 10:59 PM
  5. howards's Avatar

    Deleting 10 emails - bb10 multi selection is non existent. BBOS wins this round easily
    Not true. BB 10 multi selection is very existent for emails and other things.

    Z30 / STA 100-3 / 10.2.1.3289
    11-05-14 11:17 PM
  6. nah.uhh's Avatar
    Not true. BB 10 multi selection is very existent for emails and other things.

    Z30 / STA 100-3 / 10.2.1.3289
    Alright. To be fair..

    BlackBerry 10 has ctrl+click (1 by 1) style multi select
    BlackBerry OS has shift+click (select multiple.. but only in sequence)



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    11-05-14 11:46 PM
  7. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    I don't do Facebook or Twitter or any other social junk. Just email and some texts so the HUB won't be a big deal to me.

    From what's said here, I'm not very convinced BB10 is any better cause it certainly doesn't seem like it will make my phone usage any more efficient.
    11-06-14 08:23 AM
  8. Joshu42's Avatar
    XP can be different according to the phone you choose.
    BB10: open remember, switch to tasks or notes, start typing hit enter to save
    BB10 makes you choose between tasks / notes first, but doesn't require the save step. So I'd say about equal here.
    Example here : With a Q10 and without any app running, I just have to type "note something something" on the keyboard to create a new note.
    11-06-14 09:24 AM
  9. nah.uhh's Avatar
    I don't do Facebook or Twitter or any other social junk. Just email and some texts so the HUB won't be a big deal to me.

    From what's said here, I'm not very convinced BB10 is any better cause it certainly doesn't seem like it will make my phone usage any more efficient.
    I think you may want to ask again after 10.3.1 becomes official, as a lot of "classic" features are making a return. Like the %b(backspace) word substitution macro is broken on every official bb10 os, but is finally working in 10.3.1

    Fwiw, I use bb10 as my daily driver.. but I keep my 9900 around.. for more than one reason. Docs to go is superior on BBOS (missing pre then if features on bb10).. So is the clock /bedside mode.

    There is also no Internet permission on bb10 - all apps are allowed to access the Internet without restriction.

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    11-06-14 09:26 AM
  10. nah.uhh's Avatar
    XP can be different according to the phone you choose.

    Example here : With a Q10 and without any app running, I just have to type "note something something" on the keyboard to create a new note.
    (type/tap, not hold) Keyboard shortcuts are faster than instant instant actions (exception being websites)

    Typing: "dtest"+save
    Is faster than typing: "Note test"+save

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    11-06-14 09:36 AM
  11. bbjdog's Avatar
    Okay! multiple apps open at the same time does not increase your efficiency.
    "Example being like entering a note, making a calendar entry, adding a contact, deleting 10 emails, selecting a bookmark, search for a specific email, etc" Now repeat all day.
    11-06-14 09:51 AM
  12. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    (type/tap, not hold) Keyboard shortcuts are faster than instant instant actions (exception being websites)

    Typing: "dtest"+save
    Is faster than typing: "Note test"+save
    Yes, it's details like this that I'm interested in. When I use my phone, I want it done quickly as possible.
    The push and hold to open apps in 10.3.1 does not sound good to me, that is added delay.

    Okay! multiple apps open at the same time does not increase your efficiency.
    "Example being like entering a note, making a calendar entry, adding a contact, deleting 10 emails, selecting a bookmark, search for a specific email, etc" Now repeat all day.
    I'm sorry but I don't understand this or what exactly you are trying to get at?
    11-06-14 10:24 AM
  13. Adif_70's Avatar
    For me bb10 is far ahead that Bbos for many reasons

    Quick access to multiple accounts in hub
    Better app and web browsing experience
    Predictive typing is much better.
    List goes on for me.

    Could not even think of using a Bbos device now. It's all bb10 for me!

    Posted with my 5 week old superb Passport!
    11-06-14 11:30 AM
  14. guygardner73's Avatar
    Two words: passport, spreadsheet. 'nuff said.

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.0.1418 O2 UK
    11-08-14 05:44 PM
  15. nah.uhh's Avatar
    Two words: passport, spreadsheet. 'nuff said.

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.0.1418 O2 UK
    Nah.
    Docs to go for passport is far inferior to BBOS, can't even add/remove/edit sheets/rows/columns etc.

    I learned excel on BBOS.. bb10 docs to go is like.. stripped if all semi advanced features.
    Word to go is missing features too

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    11-08-14 07:19 PM
  16. Josh_Gooner's Avatar
    No spinning/frozen clock.

    Nuff said.

    Posted via CB10
    11-08-14 08:48 PM
  17. nah.uhh's Avatar
    No spinning/frozen clock.

    Nuff said.

    Posted via CB10
    If that's the biggest reason, windows phone, android and ios don't either

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    11-08-14 09:53 PM
  18. guygardner73's Avatar
    Nah.
    Docs to go for passport is far inferior to BBOS, can't even add/remove/edit sheets/rows/columns etc.

    I learned excel on BBOS.. bb10 docs to go is like.. stripped if all semi advanced features.
    Word to go is missing features too

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    I regularly use the Android app Office suite pro when I need a more feature rich experience. Runs buttery smooth on the Passport and looks good too. I was referring to the spreadsheet experience on the passport, not Docs to Go specifically. I remember trying to use spreadsheets on BBOS and what a painful squinty experience that was. Back then, it was all we had though. Another reason BlackBerry 10 is more productive is 4G and no more BIS compression slowing things down. It's not very productive waiting all the time to is it?


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    11-09-14 07:23 AM
  19. canadian nick's Avatar
    I personally find it a little less efficient than my bbos phones but still way better that my work iPhone. Every update has made it better and I believe the classic should fix this right up. At the end of the day the little time you lose is made up by this amazing os.

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    11-09-14 07:38 AM
  20. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    No spinning/frozen clock.

    Posted via CB10
    That is very true.

    I've pre-ordered myself a Classic so guess I'll find out if I feel this new Classic version of BB10 is more efficient or not.
    11-21-14 11:49 AM
  21. matt4pack's Avatar
    Nah.
    Docs to go for passport is far inferior to BBOS, can't even add/remove/edit sheets/rows/columns etc.

    I learned excel on BBOS.. bb10 docs to go is like.. stripped if all semi advanced features.
    Word to go is missing features too

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    Also have this option now.

    Is BB10 truly more efficient and productive than BBOS?-img_20141121_223226.png

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    11-21-14 10:34 PM
  22. musical1806's Avatar
    Personally the OS has a learning curve but yes it is. Though, and again this a personal opinion, as much a I love my passport I do wish I had waited for the Classic.

    The track pad is still the best the best solution for editing documents ever invented on a mobile device and if you work with spreadsheets then it is the only way to go.

    Posted via CB10
    11-22-14 02:40 AM

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