1. redtail34's Avatar
    As support for apps and the os itself dwindles, why not just make BB10 OS open source.

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    06-19-17 11:45 PM
  2. conite's Avatar
    Because BlackBerry would get nothing out of it. Nor will they give up their signing keys either (which is required to write software to a BB10 device).
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    06-19-17 11:56 PM
  3. thurask's Avatar
    BB seems pretty reticent to open source anything, even the stuff they have to; their GitHub repository for the kernel source code they have to release under the GPL is woefully incomplete. Lazaridis had a profound distrust of the idea and I think it carried on after his departure.
    06-20-17 12:12 AM
  4. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    The foundation of BB10 is QNX, and BB uses (and licenses) QNX for many other things that make money for the company. Open-sourcing it would evaporate most of that money and kill the company. Thus, it's never gonna happen.
    06-20-17 11:31 PM
  5. redtail34's Avatar
    There's a lot of misconceptions about open source. The most common is it's always free. Which it isn't. It just give users more flexibility and still subject to licenses and restrictions. The reason I suggested this is there's a lot of individuals who love BB10 OS. Even willing to devote their time to make this OS even better. Everyday the support and apps are dwindling. So why not give a chance to people who cares. Instead of suffocating it.

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    06-21-17 02:16 PM
  6. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    BB isn't about to risk giving out the source code to QNX, period. The little bit they still care about BB10 is dwarfed by the amount they care about things like Radar and self-driving car control systems, and they absolutely will not risk those lines of business just to benefit BB10, which they've written off.

    If you were on the board of directors, and responsible to investors, there's no way you would let the company take that risk, even if it's a small one. That's not who BB is - they've NEVER been fans of open-source - and you shouldn't be counting on that to change, because IMO, it won't change anytime soon.
    06-21-17 05:08 PM
  7. Vistaus's Avatar
    Because BlackBerry would get nothing out of it. Nor will they give up their signing keys either (which is required to write software to a BB10 device).
    HP didn't get anything out of open sourcing webOS, but they did so anyway (and it now lives on as LuneOS by the community). Therefore, you're reasoning is not why BlackBerry isn't open sourcing it (though you *are* right about the signing keys).

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    06-21-17 05:17 PM
  8. Elephant_Canyon's Avatar
    HP didn't get anything out of open sourcing webOS, but they did so anyway
    But they also wouldn't have gotten anything out of it if they had kept it closed-source. QNX is a major source of revenue for Blackberry.
    06-21-17 06:13 PM
  9. app_Developer's Avatar
    There's a lot of misconceptions about open source. The most common is it's always free. Which it isn't. It just give users more flexibility and still subject to licenses and restrictions. The reason I suggested this is there's a lot of individuals who love BB10 OS. Even willing to devote their time to make this OS even better. Everyday the support and apps are dwindling. So why not give a chance to people who cares. Instead of suffocating it.
    If you forked BB10 with your cool new fixes/features, how would you install it on your BB10 phone?

    Someone would have to contribute drivers to make it feasible to build/install onto unlocked phones. Or BB would have to divulge signing keys.
    06-21-17 08:38 PM
  10. xandros9's Avatar
    webOS is open-source and also a once-great gesture-based OS, you can check out how that's doing.
    06-21-17 10:51 PM
  11. stlabrat's Avatar
    Be and Java went open source, what happen to BeOS and Sun? NeXT, Nokia didn't want open source, still kicking and one made rich for investors. Which one you would want if you have money in the game? (of course, everybody not have money in the game want freebies...).
    06-21-17 11:14 PM
  12. rthonpm's Avatar
    HP didn't get anything out of open sourcing webOS, but they did so anyway (and it now lives on as LuneOS by the community).
    HP also removed a lot of code from the open source version that they intended to keep as proprietary. Since BB10 is a dependent element of QNX the only way to open source the mobile OS would be to open source QNX, which BlackBerry has no intention of doing. The operating system without QNX would have no framework to run on and no means of installing on a third-party or even BlackBerry handset so there's nothing to do with what little shell that would be left.

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    06-22-17 07:08 AM
  13. DonHB's Avatar
    The only part of BB10 I would like to see open sourced is the Android Player.
    06-22-17 07:54 PM
  14. DonHB's Avatar
    I also would like the Android Player to become a downloadable application in 10.3.4.x instead of it being included with the release.
    06-22-17 09:29 PM
  15. rthonpm's Avatar
    The only part of BB10 I would like to see open sourced is the Android Player.
    Technically, it already is since it's based on Android Open Source Project. The proprietary aspect is the integration with the core operating system, which as we've stated isn't going to be opened up.
    06-23-17 12:04 PM
  16. DonHB's Avatar
    Technically, it already is since it's based on Android Open Source Project. The proprietary aspect is the integration with the core operating system, which as we've stated isn't going to be opened up.
    It is the part that is useful along with the part that handles .apk installs and why would you say BlackBerry wouldn't open it up?
    06-23-17 01:45 PM
  17. conite's Avatar
    It is the part that is useful along with the part that handles .apk installs and why would you say BlackBerry wouldn't open it up?
    Because nobody at Blackberry is working on BB10, is caring about BB10, or is even thinking about BB10.

    Last edited by conite; 06-23-17 at 02:25 PM.
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    06-23-17 02:15 PM
  18. ppeters914's Avatar
    Because nobody at Blackberry is working on BB10, is caring about BB10, or is even thinking about BB10.
    Yeah, but other than that......

    CLASSIC!!

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    06-23-17 04:46 PM

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