- This was started in BB10 app ideas, I thought it would be better for it to have its own thread.
Here is what Qaxl would like for a media player app, it stems from Winamp and having only one main screen for the media play.
Open New Playlist
Allows the user to select between starting a New Blank Playlist, or opening a previously Saved Playlist. If any changes have been made to the exsting Playlist, then the user is prompted to allow to Discard or Save Changed to the current Playlist before opening a new one.
Add Music from Media Library
Opens the Media Library to allow the user to select files to add to Playlist. Should allow selecting multiple files.
Add Music from File Manager
Opens the File Manager to allow the user to select files or folders to add to playlist.
Add Playlist from Media Library
Opens the Media Library and defaults to a Playlists View, to allow user to select Playlists to add to the Current Playlist.
Remove Music from Playlist
Takes the user to the Now Playing List in a toned down Multiple Select Mode, to allow the user to select multiple files to remove from the Playlist.
Clear Playlist
Removes all media from the current Playlist. Shows a warning message before doing so, and shows an "Undo" button as long as the "Back" button is visible
Select Multiple Items
Takes the user to the Now Playing List in a Multiple Select Mode, to allow the user to select multiple items and then apply various changes through a context menu.
Sort
Shows various options to re-arrange the media in the Playlist. Sorting would be possible by Track Number, Track Title, Artist Name, Album Name, File Name, Folder Path etc., This can be taken to the next level by adding a second layer of ordering. In that case, the first layer of ordering can be a grouping according to Album Name or Folder Path, and the second layer of ordering could be sorted according to Track Number or File Name.
Search within Playlist
This would bring up the Keyboard, and allow the user to type in and search for a song in the current playlist.
Share Playlist
In its most basic form this would create a simple text based list of all the songs in the Playlist and allow the user to share that over BBM, Facebook etc. In an advanced form this could extend to sharing Playlist files in Playlist format over NFC, and BBM to friends who have the same app (still just a concept)
Playlist Properties
This would show detailed information about the Playlist. Information such as Name of Playlist and the Song List, along with how the Names of songs are displayed in the Playlist would be Editable by the user in this view. This would also be used to remove all songs from the playlist that have been deleted from device memory.
Save Playlist
Allows the user to Over-write existing Playlist or to Save-as a New Playlist.
Delete Playlist
Shows a Warning Message to make sure, then Deletes the current Playlist and Opens a New Blank PlaylistContextual Menus
These controls would be displayed when an item is selected from the playlist using Long Press, or the "Multiple Select" button is pressed. This would cause the Playlist to become editable using the context menus, and the selected items can be made to change positions by dragging similar to how the icons in the OS can be dragged to change position.
Invert Selection
Inverts the Selection.
Play (Disabled when more than one item is selected)
Plays the selected item, if that item is already Playing, selecting this option will Play it from the Beginning
Send to Playlist
Allows the user to send the selected items to an existing Playlist, or to create a New Playlist with the selected items.
Remove from Playlist
Removes selected items from the Playlist
Queue after now Playing (Disabled when more than one item is selected)
This could either move the selected items to right after the currently playing song, or it could make the player skip to the selected item after the current song finishes playing.
Move to Top of Playlist
Moves selected items to the Top of the Playlist
Move to Bottom of Playlist
Moves selected items to the Bottom of the Playlist
Add to Top of Playlist
Adds (Duplicates) selected items to the Top of the Playlist
Add to Bottom of Playlist
Adds (Duplicates) selected items to the Bottom of the Playlist
Share (Disabled when more than one item is selected)
In its most basic form it could send the Name of the Song, and some of its information like ID3 tag in a text based format to a friend over BBM or Facebook.
In its advanced form it may be possible to send the first 30 seconds of a song to a friend. (still just a concept)
Properties
Allows the user to view detailed information about the selected items, and then edit information such as File Names, and ID3 tag information.
Open containing Folder (Disabled when more than one item is selected)
Opens the File Manager app to the path of the selected file.
Delete
Removes the selected files from the Device Memory.
Media Library
This would open the Medial Library for browsing
Scan Media Library
This would Scan the Media Card and Device Memory for any changes to the Media Files
CoverFlow View
I got this idea when you mentioned that the Playlist title bar could be used to swipe to the next playlist. I thought maybe it could be possible to view a coverflow type thing through the Application Menu which opens with a top down bezel swipe. So you Swipe down from any view and see some 3 or 5 Playlists in a CoverFlow layout and then scroll to the required playlist.
Colour Themes
To switch the Colours of the App
Settings
Well ... this could be used for some settings.
Playlist Expand / Retract
As a backup Plan.Last edited by big bb; 12-13-12 at 09:19 AM.
11-28-12 08:56 AMLike 0 -
- Since this is a new thread I would like to share my original thoughts behind an app like this..
Its not that there won't be a good default player, i think all modern smartphones and tablets have good media players, but they usually work in different ways than i would like them to. I've been using Winamp for as long as I can remember, and I have always wanted something similar to that on a mobile device but never quite found anything like it. It seems that for a mobile device the media players start focusing on things other than the music itself, so i would like to have an app that is simple, honest, and is familiar to anyone who has used Winamp...11-29-12 07:52 AMLike 0 -
After playing with Winamp for Android I realized how similar the app I was kind of working on with Qaxl's help.12-02-12 09:45 PMLike 0 - Sorry it took so long to responded to you I have been really busy. In my head I have kind of changed how the app would look. When I get some time to put my ideas down on paper i will post it here. I was also thinking of making it more gesture based.12-02-12 09:50 PMLike 0
- I'd like to see how your design comes out ... my design was just a concept of how Cascades could mix with Winamp, but yeah it could use some creativity, and that Gestures thing sounds nice ... I'd be happy as long as the focus remains on the the Now Playing List with adding, removing, songs from it, changing their order etc. all on the go.12-03-12 08:55 AMLike 0
- I'd like to see how your design comes out ... my design was just a concept of how Cascades could mix with Winamp, but yeah it could use some creativity, and that Gestures thing sounds nice ... I'd be happy as long as the focus remains on the the Now Playing List with adding, removing, songs from it, changing their order etc. all on the go.12-05-12 08:09 AMLike 0
- I also want to see a feature to "fast forward" and "rewind". Like in VLC media player, you can play videos at 1x (normal) 1.5x....2x...3x..4x..and speeds. Like in tape/vcr players! This feature exists in VLC Media Player.12-05-12 04:56 PMLike 0
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- Qaxl what if on the main screen all you mainly saw was the album art and the playlist, but instead of scrolling up and down with the list it is left and right and only takes up about 200 pixels at the bottom of the screen, Then have other thing come into the screen by a gesture, example swipe from the right bezel in and it could being in a list of the different playlist (list when your in the hub and swiping to the active frame screen) and you can edit them there.12-09-12 11:06 PMLike 0
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Notice the Shuffle, and Repeat buttons .. also the rewind and forward buttons.
Notice how the lack of rewind and forward allows for a more streamlined look. But you are welcome to share your ideas how those could be implemented.
Qaxl what if on the main screen all you mainly saw was the album art and the playlist, but instead of scrolling up and down with the list it is left and right and only takes up about 200 pixels at the bottom of the screen, Then have other thing come into the screen by a gesture, example swipe from the right bezel in and it could being in a list of the different playlist (list when your in the hub and swiping to the active frame screen) and you can edit them there.
I was thinking maybe in the playlist we could show the album art next to each song's name, like the pictures in the contacts application, or how BBM contacts are displayed, also take a look at the SoundNine app for the Playbook. This way we could eliminate the top portion of the screen and concentrate on the now playing list .. since that is the focus of the app. Just a thought.
Big bb, could you make the attachments appear in the first post of this thread? currently they are just links.12-13-12 04:29 AMLike 0 - The images should show up now, I had to take them out of the quote.
As for the bottom that I was referring to, It would be the list of song in the currently selected playlist, but instead of scrolling the list up and down, we could have it scroll left and right to see the songs in the list.
That is just a drawing I did in a min.12-13-12 09:41 AMLike 0 -
- This looks very much like the stock android music player i have in my Sony Xperia (you can google its pictures). I know this would look nice, but it detracts from the reason i wanted this app to exist in the first place.... The Playlist.
This design has some drawbacks such as not being able to see what are the next or previous songs, i mean there is a button for next or previous song but whats the point if u cant see them, you never know what its going to be, so it feels like an ipod shuffle.
One of the most important features for me was to be able to have a Now Playing List that can be efficiently manipulated. Easy to add to, remove from, change order etc. all this would be marginalised in this design.
I think what i saw in the video was much closer to how i wanted this app to turn out. But i do like your idea about using gestures, i'll think of a newer design which incorporates that.EsJayDee likes this.12-13-12 10:31 AMLike 1 - This looks very much like the stock android music player i have in my Sony Xperia (you can google its pictures). I know this would look nice, but it detracts from the reason i wanted this app to exist in the first place.... The Playlist.
This design has some drawbacks such as not being able to see what are the next or previous songs, i mean there is a button for next or previous song but whats the point if u cant see them, you never know what its going to be, so it feels like an ipod shuffle.
One of the most important features for me was to be able to have a Now Playing List that can be efficiently manipulated. Easy to add to, remove from, change order etc. all this would be marginalised in this design.
I think what i saw in the video was much closer to how i wanted this app to turn out. But i do like your idea about using gestures, i'll think of a newer design which incorporates that.12-13-12 10:45 AMLike 0 - Hello Qaxl,
I'm a music lover and a developer too ;o)
I like your idea, how you want to listen your songs.
I had a similar idea and turn it into a PlayBook app called 'Next Songs'. When I want to listen to music, I turn on my PlayBook and launch Next Songs, and the music starts.
Music is randomly choosen on the Playbook and I can see the next songs to be played, skip to one particular song, remove one, switch positions, etc...
Here you go with your idea(s), I like the possibilty to add a song, or better a playlist. I think it will be a good improvement to my app because for now you need to let the chance choose the songs for you.
I really need to work on a BB10 version of my app NOW !
LaurentQaxl likes this.01-09-13 09:33 AMLike 1 - Hey Guys,
Great ideas!
I've been thinking about this for a long time, and wondered if this might be a good forum to mention it: has anyone thought about song ratings? I'll admit, I started using iTunes a few years back, and actually don't mind it. It seems to be the only place I've seen where you can "star" a song (1-5 stars actually). I really like this, because I build playlists based on the star count. It helps filter out the not-so-good songs on an album . So, I currently sync songs between iTunes and my Torch (os 6), my Curve (os7.1) as well as with my PlayBook. None of the default media players on those 3 different BlackBerry OS's seem to support the stars, and so it got me to wondering if it was "an Apple-only" thing, or if its just something that I use and no-one else really does? My 2 cents. Good luck with the development of you BB10 media player!01-09-13 11:35 AMLike 0 - Hello Qaxl,
I'm a music lover and a developer too ;o)
I like your idea, how you want to listen your songs.
I had a similar idea and turn it into a PlayBook app called 'Next Songs'. When I want to listen to music, I turn on my PlayBook and launch Next Songs, and the music starts.
Music is randomly choosen on the Playbook and I can see the next songs to be played, skip to one particular song, remove one, switch positions, etc...
Here you go with your idea(s), I like the possibilty to add a song, or better a playlist. I think it will be a good improvement to my app because for now you need to let the chance choose the songs for you.
I really need to work on a BB10 version of my app NOW !
Laurent
Hey Guys,
Great ideas!
I've been thinking about this for a long time, and wondered if this might be a good forum to mention it: has anyone thought about song ratings? I'll admit, I started using iTunes a few years back, and actually don't mind it. It seems to be the only place I've seen where you can "star" a song (1-5 stars actually). I really like this, because I build playlists based on the star count. It helps filter out the not-so-good songs on an album . So, I currently sync songs between iTunes and my Torch (os 6), my Curve (os7.1) as well as with my PlayBook. None of the default media players on those 3 different BlackBerry OS's seem to support the stars, and so it got me to wondering if it was "an Apple-only" thing, or if its just something that I use and no-one else really does? My 2 cents. Good luck with the development of you BB10 media player!01-12-13 06:16 AMLike 0 - Here is another concept, I was trying to make the album art on top a swipe-scroll thing, and wanted to have the PlayList Name display on top my final design looked alot like the BBOS music player on my phone so i just took a pic of it and pasted it on top.
Also, I liked how much information they gave in each row for the songs including an Title, Artist Name, Genre, Time and even a small thumbnail of the album art, although i do think, the album art becomes a bit redundant since its there at the top too and id really like the list to be numbered
Anyways here are the pics, now its more of a Winamp + BBOS Music Player + Cascades mashup .. but im really loving it !
What do you think ?
I think the top part, above the seek bar, can have a touch sensitive bezel on the side, swipe in from the side to go to next playlist or something.EsJayDee likes this.01-12-13 06:33 AMLike 1
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