1. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    Just my thought which I can't believe i'm saying. Since I'm a huge BB fan and to be honest i haven't even felt like this when BB was about to get scrapped for parts. Looking at the iOS8 and Android L improvements is making it worse.

    The stock (by the time you read this is is probably already at it's high) is at an almost at a 52week high high but that's because of services most likely like BES12.

    BlackBerry tried full force getting their handsets into enterprise and kind of failed.Handsets will end up getting phased out and Services being: BES, QNX and BBM will be the only things left standing.

    BYOD took the enterprise market by storm. People are so happy to throw away their BlackBerries and move on to something else. Apple (i hate apple btw) is now the smartest device to use for enterprise.

    why?
    -Ecosystem (handover cross platform notification on iOS only for now)
    - microsoft office
    - social apps (surprisingly enough it's gettign bigger and bigger in the enterprise world even pointless social media like tumblr)
    - integration (BB10 has this but no one not even BlackBerry themselves is willing to chip in [i'll say more on this below])
    - apps is everything look at the amount of enterprise apps on every other platform compared to BB10
    - BlackBerry's inhouse apps are all incomplete. example Docs2go doesn't even have as many features as the android/iphone version even though BlackBerry bought out Datawiz. Express doesn't even support powerpoint which is the most widely used format for slideshows.

    All BlackBerry 10 has on any other phone is the HUB but it's not long before other OS's or apps (like Accompli [which innovated the crap out of the hub but is only for email])
    Security is big but is only needed for governments, medical, police and fortune 500 companies. At least for now.

    sadly enough make a search on google for the most used device in enterprise and it's iOS.

    I do think Chen is awesome for the company to make it profitable but he is making it much worse for the handset side of things. Sure he is making hardware but you need the full out OS to back it up. I see no progress. Every single inhouse BB10 apps should be thrown into Beta Zone and get 10 full time devs to work on 1 app at a time.
    Google started a new thing called update Wednesday when they update 3-8 of their apps every week. I'm just saying 1 update per week for BlackBerry until this in house app situation is better.

    What do you guys think?
    07-11-14 02:24 PM
  2. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    sadly enough make a search on google for the most used device in enterprise and it's iOS.
    What do you guys think?
    I would like to know where you got the most used device in enterprise..
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    07-11-14 02:42 PM
  3. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    I would like to know where you got the most used device in enterprise..
    Google search, you dont even seen blackberry on the front page.

    Its all apple (iphone/ipads)

    I actually saw someone post an article about it and tore him apart basically but then I started looking myself and the sad fact that it is true.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=most%...phone&hl=en-US
    I even tried looking up blackberry most used enterprise device.

    Bes is the most used service and ios is the most used hardware.


    If you can prove me wrpng post a link but I cant even find one.
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    07-11-14 02:54 PM
  4. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    Good example would be that bb10 os non existant in most parts of the world with less then a million per country except maybe canada.
    The US having less then 1% bb10 market share.

    Here in waterloo they are getting phased out. Toronto is more of the BlackBerry power house


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    07-11-14 03:01 PM
  5. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    Consumer services and enterprise now a days go hand in hand.

    Jim and mike didnt see it back then and chen doesn't see it now

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    07-11-14 03:04 PM
  6. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    Google search, you dont even seen blackberry on the front page.

    Its all apple (iphone/ipads)

    I actually saw someone post an article about it and tore him apart basically but then I started looking myself and the sad fact that it is true.

    most used enterprise phone - Google Search
    I even tried looking up blackberry most used enterprise device.

    Bes is the most used service and ios is the most used hardware.


    If you can prove me wrpng post a link but I cant even find one.
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    Simple, all the stats you see from Good Enterprises and Fiberlink (Maas360) MDM solutions. Both don't support Blackberry. So when you look at Enterprises that don't user Blackberry, iOS is the leader. When you only look at a subset of all mobile phones in the enterprise, then of course you have wrong data. Now you won't find any data for ALL mobile devices in the Enterprise. Blackberry has repeatedly said that they have more devices in the Enterprise that all the other MDMs combined so if you believe that, then Blackberry has the most devices.
    07-11-14 04:45 PM
  7. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    Consumer services and enterprise now a days go hand in hand.

    Jim and mike didnt see it back then and chen doesn't see it now

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    Wrong assumption. There are many enterprise segments that won't allow anything but Blackberries. Enterprise <> Consumer.
    07-11-14 04:47 PM
  8. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    Good example would be that bb10 os non existant in most parts of the world with less then a million per country except maybe canada.
    The US having less then 1% bb10 market share.

    Here in waterloo they are getting phased out. Toronto is more of the BlackBerry power house


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    There are still many BBOS devices still in use. I went to a buddies small business and they all have BBOS devices. I would love to see your stats on how you know for sure that Blackberries are being phased out in Waterloo.
    07-11-14 04:49 PM
  9. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    There are still many BBOS devices still in use. I went to a buddies small business and they all have BBOS devices. I would love to see your stats on how you know for sure that Blackberries are being phased out in Waterloo.
    I live in waterloo... I look at what people are using. No teenage carries a BlackBerry any more. Im the only one out of all my friends. Parents still sometimes carry bbos but thatvis slowly fading.

    Who cares that its all good the marketshare alone shows thatnot even business' are using them. U.S. Is arubly the biggest country woth enterprise and they have such a small marketshare that they dont even know specifically. But its somewhere between 0 and 1% including bbos there are far mor epeople in enterprise then that.

    BlackBerry has released device numbers most likely they are probably scared too. It is majority BlackBerry users they would be stupid not to for good press.

    You would be ignorant if you believe blackberry DEVICES holds the most market share in enterprise. Especially with all android/ios phones and tablets offer.

    Example look and compare the quality, compatibility and quantity of office/cfm apps of the 2 OS to blackberry.ypu would be stupid not to go with them if you were all about security


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    07-11-14 05:04 PM
  10. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    I live in waterloo... I look at what people are using. No teenage carries a BlackBerry any more. Im the only one out of all my friends. Parents still sometimes carry bbos but thatvis slowly fading.

    Who cares that its all good the marketshare alone shows thatnot even business' are using them. U.S. Is arubly the biggest country woth enterprise and they have such a small marketshare that they dont even know specifically. But its somewhere between 0 and 1% including bbos there are far mor epeople in enterprise then that.

    BlackBerry has released device numbers most likely they are probably scared too. It is majority BlackBerry users they would be stupid not to for good press.

    You would be ignorant if you believe blackberry DEVICES holds the most market share in enterprise. Especially with all android/ios phones and tablets offer. You have still not given any information that says that

    Example look and compare the quality, compatibility and quantity of office/cfm apps of the 2 OS to blackberry.ypu would be stupid not to go with them if you were all about security


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    What do teenagers have to do with Enterprise? Enterprise is what you started talking about. Now you are talking about what teenagers use. You still have not given any information or proof that Blackberry doesn't hold the most market share in Enterprise.

    PS. Please take time to spell check your posts. People might take you more seriously if you can actually write a proper sentence with correct spelling.
    07-11-14 05:10 PM
  11. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    What do teenagers have to do with Enterprise? Enterprise is what you started talking about. Now you are talking about what teenagers use. You still have not given any information or proof that Blackberry doesn't hold the most market share in Enterprise.

    PS. Please take time to spell check your posts. People might take you more seriously if you can actually write a proper sentence with correct spelling.
    Im 25 most of my friends are in enterprise. Im not talking about teenagers. Those have been long gone for years.

    8 close friends that work at blackberry all own
    androids.

    I suck with virtual keyboards because my hands are massive haha. I'm not getting marked so I dont care about editiing.

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    07-11-14 06:11 PM
  12. DigitalMadness's Avatar
    I smell something........

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    07-11-14 06:37 PM

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