- My Outlook PST file is a paltry 2GB. Everything is working fine. There have been several times where I've had to go back to an email from two, three years ago to look at something.
The problem with hosted services like Gmail is you're tied to them and the features they decide to drop with little notice.
I've had Gmail since 2004. If I didn't delete email I'd probably have a 15GB PST file and that borders on the ridiculous not to mention working with IMAP inboxes in Outlook that large is like committing a very slow painful suicide.. Outlook is known for pretty sub-par IMAP performance, though (they added EAS support in Outlook 2013, though).
Gmail is best used with an email client that was designed with it in mind. I've had mail clients download one email multiple times because it was in multiple labels and Gmail labels are Folders in an IMAP client. It's just a huge cludge, and not something that I enjoy working with.01-30-13 11:16 PMLike 0 - when using playbook native email you have to treat it as tho you're on your pc,,, keep it or delete it are your choices,,, if you want to keep it just close it & leave it there,,, in my particular situation, i get my mail thru the bridge 'cuz my pc is hardwired... if i need wifi i just go to the hotspot down the street,,, only thing is the native email lights up like an 18 wheeler in middle america on a moonless night when i turn on the wifi when i'm there even tho i've already read/deleted everything already...01-30-13 11:23 PMLike 0
- I don't want or need all my email on my portable devices, I want it all in one place at home on my PC.01-30-13 11:26 PMLike 0
- My mailbox, my rule. I can care less what you do with your mail. I have no intention to go through my mail every day to delete them. I'd rather go fishing. Analogy with paper mail has no merits. That's why we moved to e-mail in the first place, so we don't have to shred them every day. And yes, I can also care less if google or anybody else track my messages to see what they can sell me. I ain't buying if I don't want too.
Neither could I. You can have your bloated mailbox and have fun wasting device space with it, too!
You delete the mails as you get them. How often do you check your email on a smartphone. Typically I will check an email within 5 minutes of it coming in unless I was on the ice and my phone was in Airplane mode, in which case I'll get it when I turn that off and go through them. I don't get that much email because most of the people I know have graduated to SMS, IM, and Facebook Messages. I also clear those every night. I like to keep things tidy.
That analogy has many merits, and makes complete sense. You asked a rhetorical question and I responded with one (well, at least it SHOULD be rhetorical). Email isn't really much different than Paper Mail, it just gets sent and received quicker. The same type of stuff gets sent. You keep your eBills in your email? Gratz! I shred the bills that come in the mail, as well as delete their electronic counterparts. Reciepts for purchases I print out and file away, since I may need tech support, RMA, etc. When the warranty is up or the stuff is gone (or broken) I throw them away. I download and put attachments in the proper place (if worthy) and delete the emails. I don't keep eCards, similar to how I don't keep Christmas cards forever. The analogy makes perfect sense. All that has happened is that we've moved most of our communications with other people from paper (sticky notes, cards, letters, etc.) to their electronic counterparts. Why I should suddenly feel the need to hoard it (which your rhetorical question seems to bring to question) is lost upon me ;-)
BTW, last two sentences should be "No, I couldn't care less if Google or anyone else tracks my messages to see what they may be able to sell me. I wouldn't buy it if I don't want to."
Just too much going on there to not point out (and no, I'm not saying my ForumSpeak is perfect... That part just sort of popped out at me!)
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To get more to my point that I'm trying to drive home... No one cares about your 10GB inbox. Microsoft gives you virtually unlimited space in Outlook.com (there are people with several gigs of email in their inboxes, so they're serious). Outlook.com has Categories and Folders, which is superior to Labels. Outlook.com supports EAS.
A 10GB Gmail space is one of the worst reasons I've seen for someone sticking with Gmail. You're better off just saying you just prefer Gmail over Outlook.com. That actually makes more sense since you basically get the same amount of storage on each service, anyways... There are certainly other Google services that have a very sticky feel to them, but Gmail is - IMHO - not one of them.
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As for keeping your email all in an Outlook PST file and deleting it all from the server. Well, that's anyone's choice to do but that's a risky proposition since if you actually want to keep those emails and your computer goes caput, you can be left in a rather odd situation (unless you have a backup, which I'd advise in that situation... Thumb drives are cheap, as well as external HDDs).
I'd personally never use IMAP4 on a mobile device if I had a large mailbox since it bloats up on the device storage and can cause client performance issues.
Also, EAS allows server-side search so even if the email isn't on your device you can still search for it. I have my client sync the last week of email, cause anything older than that is basically archived and *very important* anyways, otherwise I'd have deleted it minutes after it arrived.Last edited by n8ter#AC; 01-30-13 at 11:40 PM.
01-30-13 11:27 PMLike 0 - I usually delete my emails right after I've read them on my phone. I have no need to have emails linger around on my phone, that's what I have Outlook for on my PC at home.01-30-13 11:46 PMLike 0
- My head is about to explode... Arg argarraggaagar!!
I'm more confused now than I was before. I only use my device and rarely cleanout my hotmail account.
Explain it in a way that the next poster won't contradict you... Or just tell me to start a new outlook account and dump gmail.
Thx01-30-13 11:48 PMLike 0 -
- The problem with IMAP is that sync takes place every 15 minutes. Even if you receive your message near instantaneously, upon deletion on the device it will only be removed from the server during the next sync cycle. The same goes for adding and removing contacts.
I use Outlook mail on my iPhone 5 and if receive a message which I happen to read on my laptop the notification on the iPhone is cleared in a matter of seconds. I had to install an Outlook plugin on the computer for the syncing to work in this manner though because I'm still using Office 2007.
I haven't used my PlayBook in months, so when I get home tonight I will test this email thing.01-31-13 12:40 AMLike 0 - IMAP-IDLE is not push. It's constant polling (client side anyways, server side waits to respond). There is no data transferred until you get a message, but the data connection has to stay open. This has a really negative effect on battery life compared to BIS push. Unless ActiveSync has some magical way to locate a device behind a few levels of carrier NAT without an active connection, it won't do any better. BlackBerries are the only devices with true push because of BB PINs, which allows carriers to pass messages to them directly. Short of static IPs (which may be possible after IPv6 is mainstream), this is the only way to do it, and it becomes the typical battery-life / response time tradeoff of every other platform.
I'm seeing mixed reports if BlackBerry is actually killing of BIS, but I really hope not, there isn't anything comparable.01-31-13 12:44 AMLike 0 - As far as I know it is the same case with iOS and android, POP3 mail can't be pushed but fetched only. In iOS you won't have option for push for POP3. The screenshot you have is an option for gmail in this case.01-31-13 12:46 AMLike 0
- The problem with IMAP is if you delete it from your phone, it disappears from the server too. And any other computer working off that mailbox. Useless.01-31-13 12:55 AMLike 0
- I think the only way for you to have what you had before is to have the same set up, but do not delete any mail from your next BB10 device. After your Outlook downloads all the mail to your PC, simply delete your email account on your phone and set it up again. This way all your mail on your phone will be deleted, and when you sign up again it will sync with your ISP server and show only the mail that came in since your pc download. Deleting and setting up email account takes less then 1 minute and could be performed daily.01-31-13 12:55 AMLike 0
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- 01-31-13 01:01 AMLike 0
- I think the only way for you to have what you had before is to have the same set up, but do not delete any mail from your next BB10 device. After your Outlook downloads all the mail to your PC, simply delete your email account on your phone and set it up again. This way all your mail on your phone will be deleted, and when you sign up again it will sync with your ISP server and show only the mail that came in since your pc download. Deleting and setting up email account takes less then 1 minute and could be performed daily.
I will not buy a Z10 if it offers less in the way of email functionality than my OS6 device. I don't care enough about Angry Birds to take a step backwards with email.raymond likes this.01-31-13 01:14 AMLike 1 - Google is dropping support for exchange tomorrow. So any device that hasn't been configured by tomorrow will no longer be able to use the exchange service with a Google account.
Not having push is ridiculous. It is the backbone of BlackBerry. I'll say it again, this all seems rather rushed again.raymond likes this.01-31-13 01:16 AMLike 1 -
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It also states that Yahoo is not pushed to Android devices. Where that leaves BB10 I have no idea.
The link below gives a general overview.
http://http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...mail#section_201-31-13 01:28 AMLike 0
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