BB should have done this...

04-03-19 10:47 AM

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In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

03-25-19 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

HUH?

03-25-19 11:58 AM

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Ummmm...

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03-25-19 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

Because of all the unique apps only available on BB10?

I think some would have like a more advance BB10 launcher... but clearly the economics aren't there. And there are some limitations to what an OEM can do with Android and still qualify for the whole Google Play/Services.

Sorry but I just don't get what a BB10 Runtime would have brought to Android.... it the UI that most here miss.

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03-25-19 01:10 PM

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That would have required an incredible amount of work and money and would not have made an Android phone into a BB10 phone. At best, it would have been able to run BB10 apps - but the number of people who care about that are in the dozens, not the hundreds of millions.

It would be like building an 80,000 seat stadium for PeeWee Football games that draw 50 spectators - it would be financially insane.

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03-25-19 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

They could have and still can easily replicate BB10 with a skin. Performance? Who cares at the moment, it doesn't exist but probably should. As far as a BB10 runtime for apps? Absolutely not needed. It would only overcomplicate things just as Android on BB10 turned out to do.

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03-25-19 03:02 PM

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RLeeSimon

BB10, Palm, WebOS... great things wind up in home appliances...

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03-25-19 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

A concerted attempt by a development studio to make a BB10 launcher got only a few dozen buyers. No one was (or would be) interested.

03-25-19 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by conite

A concerted attempt by a development studio to make a BB10 launcher got only a few dozen buyers. No one was (or would be) interested.

I think there was interest. Just no one wanted to put their money where their mouth was and pay for it. I guess that means there wasn't really serious interest. Or maybe it says something else about the community.

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03-25-19 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spARTacus

Or maybe it says something else about the community.

It says two things imho:

1. Not enough people interested
2. People don't want to pay for anything. Hence Google rules.

I tried the app and just wasn't polished enough for me. It is still available, however: https://m.apkpure.com/zinqs-launcher...nqs.blackberry if you want to try it.

03-25-19 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brookie229

It says two things imho....

Agree.
...and everyone is paying for it in a roundabout different way.

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03-25-19 06:07 PM

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I tried it now... already removed it... not much

03-25-19 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

I tried it now... already removed it... not much

He was willing to continue development, but there was no community interest.

03-25-19 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

I tried it now... already removed it... not much

I should tell you that version 16 was considered to be the best by many who used it.

03-25-19 07:15 PM

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Getting a little off topic, but as another measure I wonder how many have some of Cobalt's packages running just to avoid paying a subscription? I am one that is currently willing to put up with periodic ads in the hub on my TabA.

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03-25-19 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spARTacus

Getting a little off topic, but as another measure I wonder how many have some of Cobalt's packages running just to avoid paying a subscription? I am one that is currently willing to put up with periodic ads in the hub on my TabA.

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Find out if BlackBerry starts killing off apps. If they claim low demand or usage, you'll probably have a few of those folks to thank.

03-25-19 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bla1ze

...you'll probably have a few of those folks to thank.

Perhaps. It always struck me odd that Cobalt's packages were allowed to still function after the concept was proven.

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03-25-19 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

They were making so little on the app store that it was cheaper to just kill the payment mechanism early and let it coast to the end with absolute minimum maintenance.

03-25-19 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spARTacus

Getting a little off topic, but as another measure I wonder how many have some of Cobalt's packages running just to avoid paying a subscription? I am one that is currently willing to put up with periodic ads in the hub on my TabA.

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My understanding is that it's the only way to get the BB VKB. Yes? No? Maybe?

03-26-19 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ppeters914

My understanding is that it's the only way to get the BB VKB. Yes? No? Maybe?

Either as part of his package or as a standalone install.... They can't offer it in Google Play, as it's a licensed product that MS owns now. There are some wild rumors about BlackBerry developing their own keyboard... but I question what kind of predictive engine they will be able to come up with on their own.

I expect that for now, enterprise and BBMo are paying most the app development cost...

03-26-19 07:10 AM

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well...it's just time to say goodbye!

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Originally Posted by RLeeSimon

In moving off BlackBerry 10 OS why didn't (or could they not still) proffer Android with a bb10 RUNTIME (reverse of Passport bb10 with Android 4.3 runtime) ?? THAT would have been a cool device !!

So what apps would you run with this runtime?

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Originally Posted by Dunt Dunt Dunt

Either as part of his package or as a standalone install.... They can't offer it in Google Play, as it's a licensed product that MS owns now. There are some wild rumors about BlackBerry developing their own keyboard... but I question what kind of predictive engine they will be able to come up with on their own.

I expect that for now, enterprise and BBMo are paying most the app development cost...

WHAT??!!! Microsoft owns the BlackBerry VKB??

When did that happen?

03-26-19 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ppeters914

WHAT??!!! Microsoft owns the BlackBerry VKB??

When did that happen?

Swiftkey was purchased by Microsoft.

We don't exactly know what the licencing agreement was or is, but presumably a fee is involved.

03-26-19 10:46 AM

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ppeters914

I knew that, but thought the BB VKB was independent of SwiftKey.

03-26-19 11:30 AM

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