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You're much more likely to get help that way than burying yours in a long thread that's not related.12-15-17 03:07 PMLike 0 -
Blackberry was initially a device designed as a personal digital assistant with calling features.12-15-17 05:25 PMLike 0 - Scraping the BBOS is the only dumb idea IMO. How is a company who has built its legacy with a BlackBerry phone just get up remove their blackberry phone running BBOS from what they have to offer as a company.
Blackberry was initially a device designed as a personal digital assistant with calling features.12-15-17 05:28 PMLike 0 - more like the anchor that is keeping them alive as a pioneer as a SmartPhone Creator... RIM/BlackBerry. Not saying that creating additional software for other industries is a bad thing like QNX but to just forget about BBOS might be their biggest mistake when they initially created an operating system that has kept them a float for so many years. that could have been developed which it has with a lot of key features of some of the older BBOS with new developments to keep it running smoothly.12-15-17 05:58 PMLike 0
- more like the anchor that is keeping them alive as a pioneer as a SmartPhone Creator... RIM/BlackBerry. Not saying that creating additional software for other industries is a bad thing like QNX but to just forget about BBOS might be their biggest mistake when they initially created an operating system that has kept them a float for so many years. that could have been developed which it has with a lot of key features of some of the older BBOS with new developments to keep it running smoothly.
The last time they made a profit on the device business was 2011.12-15-17 06:06 PMLike 0 -
one of the main reason they probably didn't continue profiting was due to the fact that they didn't keep developing the BBOS which would of been their first priority versus trying to compete with something that is in a different category of a phone.
for example Nokia is still creating a phone that has less then 20 buttons on its device and is still in business with a device that can be said is not wanted in the the device business.12-15-17 06:41 PMLike 0 - losing billions in investments that could of been handle differently.
one of the main reason they probably didn't continue profiting was due to the fact that they didn't keep developing the BBOS which would of been their first priority versus trying to compete with something that is in a different category of a phone.
for example Nokia is still creating a phone that has less then 20 buttons on its device and is still in business with a device that can be said is not wanted in the the device business.
BB10 was already an unmitigated disaster by the summer of 2013. The company went up for sale, and after no takers, they decided to pivot away from BB10 and focus on enterprise and IoT software solutions. Chen was hired to do that.
They did not quit BB10 to go Android. The shuttering of BB10 was a foregone conclusion in 2013, and was going to happen no matter what - as soon as supplier and customer commitments were exhausted.
BlackBerry Android was an independent project that was only considered because it was far cheaper and far less risky. It was worth a shot. The result at least gave them another software product to licence. BlackBerry Android was not in lieu of BB10 - it was in lieu of NOTHING.12-15-17 06:45 PMLike 0 - BTW, BBOS refers to the OS7.1 and prior phones. BB10 are the phones made between 2013 and 2015.
BB10 was already an unmitigated disaster by the summer of 2013. The company went up for sale, and after no takers, they decided to pivot away from BB10 and focus on enterprise and IoT software solutions. Chen was hired to do that.
They did not quit BB10 to go Android. The shuttering of BB10 was a foregone conclusion in 2013, and was going to happen no matter what - as soon as supply and customer commitments were exhausted.
Android was an independent project that was only considered because it was far cheaper and far less risky. It was worth a shot. The result at least gave them another software product to licence.
on another note, its like telling apple iphone to be "powered by android" since they dont want to keep making updates for their Operating System. it doesnt make sense at all.12-15-17 06:55 PMLike 0 - you do realize that the investment to continue developing the same OS which technically still is BBOS with minor tweaks to the interface thats if you ever used a BBOS device and to even consider an enterprise and IoT software solution option a device should be included in that as a feature to keep things secure in the network. doing the BYOD option is a something that shouldnt even be considered to keep the network secure of the enterprise. and to tell an employee to use a BlackBerry to do their work for the company they work to keep thing secure and confidential as possible is a benefit that alot of companies should consider due to the fact that using a personal device for work for some company might risk them with exposure of the confidential information.
on another note, its like telling apple iphone to be "powered by android" since they dont want to keep making updates for their Operating System. it doesnt make sense at all.
It would make perfect sense for Apple to dump iOS if it lost them billions of dollars each and every year.12-15-17 06:57 PMLike 0 -
iOS is an operating system, BBOS is an operating system, Windows is an operating system, OS X version 10.xxxxx is an operating system. For a company to drop it's operating system is like draining the blood out of a human body.12-15-17 07:26 PMLike 0 -
The world is constantly moving forward, and change happens. If you can't deal with that, then you get left behind. That's reality, like it or not.12-16-17 01:01 AMLike 0 - How well do you think that Microsoft would be doing today if they were still selling DOS on desktop/laptop computers? Or Macs with System 9?
The world is constantly moving forward, and change happens. If you can't deal with that, then you get left behind. That's reality, like it or not.
So blackberry would and should do is keep developing BBOS and keep it up-to-date and create a BBOS 10.4 or just jumpt to BBOS 11.... instead of just replacing it with the android os that is owned by Google if not mistaking12-16-17 03:48 AMLike 0 -
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Posted via The Classic12-16-17 07:36 AMLike 0 - I'm pretty sure you got off topic was talking about constantly updating BBOS to thru a matter of different versions. Windows went from early stage windows to whatever windows version it is now from microsoft and os mac started of with whatever number to the most up-to-date mac os that is available today from apple.
So blackberry would and should do is keep developing BBOS and keep it up-to-date and create a BBOS 10.4 or just jumpt to BBOS 11.... instead of just replacing it with the android os that is owned by Google if not mistaking
So why spends billions for developing an OS that no one wants ?
Posted via CB1012-16-17 07:51 AMLike 0 - The answer is - go make it opensource! Everyone in 1990s was telling me: "Why are you using that geeky Linux? There's almost no soft for that". And what do we have now? Linux is one of the most advanced OS on the market with tons of programs for just every single task.
Posted via CB1012-16-17 08:00 AMLike 0 - The answer is - go make it opensource! Everyone in 1990s was telling me: "Why are you using that geeky Linux? There's almost no soft for that". And what do we have now? Linux is one of the most advanced OS on the market with tons of programs for just every single task.
Posted via CB1012-16-17 08:16 AMLike 0 -
- Scraping the BBOS is the only dumb idea IMO. How is a company who has built its legacy with a BlackBerry phone just get up remove their blackberry phone running BBOS from what they have to offer as a company.
Blackberry was initially a device designed as a personal digital assistant with calling features.12-16-17 05:47 PMLike 0 -
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I don't know if and sincerely hope that it isn't happening now, but Mike Lazaridis himself distrusted open source:
Originally Posted by Losing the Signal, Chapter 15[David] Yach favored running the existing Java BlackBerry platform on top of QNX’s core technology in order to support existing apps. But many developers, including Alan Brenner, championed a different approach: tacking the BlackBerry interface on top of an Android operating system with QNX at its core. Android offered ready-made technology that would enable RIM to push out a new device to market quickly, with a running start in consumer apps, where Android was a significant player. But it would also mean apps developed for BlackBerry wouldn’t work anymore. By late 2010, Yach embraced a third option: combining RIM’s Java operating system with Android’s.
Lazaridis wanted no Java on future BlackBerrys and was troubled by Android: he felt an Android BlackBerry would be less distinguishable from countless other smartphones and would be far less secure than the QNX or existing BlackBerry operating systems because Android was written using publicly available open-source code. Businesses were sure to reject it.12-16-17 07:31 PMLike 0 - What about BlackBerry hardware line, knowledge and patents? They sold that? Just licensed? What about a chinnese company using making PKB and a flavour of BlackBerry devices for generic android?
I want a proper PKB device without this super secure BlackBerry firmware/software.
Posted via CB1012-17-17 05:17 AMLike 0 - What about BlackBerry hardware line, knowledge and patents? They sold that? Just licensed? What about a chinnese company using making PKB and a flavour of BlackBerry devices for generic android?
I want a proper PKB device without this super secure BlackBerry firmware/software.
Posted via CB1012-17-17 06:24 AMLike 0
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