09-24-14 09:29 PM
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  1. NetComrade's Avatar
    I have a 9930 still. I bought the Q10 about a year ago, and really liked it, but learned quickly my company won't support BB10 (old BES was incompatible with new devices).

    Well, they're pulling the plug on BES altogether. Interestingly, they extended the deadline so folks could get Iphone 6. It still doesn't have a keyboard! They have Airwatch MDM, so I can't rely on activesync

    I have the following choices
    get an Iphone or Android, maybe bluetooth keyboard (or a brick looking Andriod w/ keyboard)
    -- no one-hand operation.. bulky
    keep the blackberry (I am actually awaiting for the Q20 to come out, looks like the trackpad is back, which was the only thing I missed in the Q10)
    --need company email.

    I thought of using webmail, as I rarely use mail.. but I still use it occasionally enough.
    I really need the calendar to sync up.
    I could use my outlook to forward "important" mail. I really don't like this solution. Also, requires for outlook to "always be up"

    I could also use my kindle for work related email only (Airwatch supports Kindle). Problem is, I never take the kindle with me, cause it's bulky, and battery life sucks on it. Might as well take the laptop.

    Any other suggestions? I really don't want a non-BB phone. My company doesn't pay for my phone anyway, but I'd like to stay "connected" like everybody else, esp when I really need it.

    Someone in the thread i linked above claimed they had it worked around for Airwatch. I am going to reach out to them as well.
    Last edited by NetComrade; 09-12-14 at 06:30 PM.
    09-12-14 06:19 PM
  2. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Just read that thread, I am in the same situation. I doubt that just putting in the exchange server info will work after registering. If it does then air watch is more of a pos than I already knew it was.

    I'll give it a shot.

    Since I have a good feeling that it won't work here is what I do to get by.

    Use Outlook Web mobile for android, allows easy access to owm.

    Use gsyncit for Outlook to sync calendar to Gmail. The only downside to this is that your outlook has to be running to add new appointments.

    Works pretty good for me.

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    09-12-14 07:42 PM
  3. mrjmc99's Avatar
    So somehow it's working for me. I enrolled in air watch since I had an add device at some point on it. Then I manually entered eas server settings for the aw proxy, and then it started working. Amazing

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    09-12-14 09:18 PM
  4. NetComrade's Avatar
    Do you know if OWM can be sideloaded?
    09-12-14 09:20 PM
  5. NetComrade's Avatar
    So somehow it's working for me. I enrolled in air watch since I had an add device at some point on it. Then I manually entered eas server settings for the aw proxy, and then it started working. Amazing

    Z30STA100-3/10.3.0.1154
    Can you elaborate? How do you add device? Where do you get server info?
    09-12-14 09:21 PM
  6. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Owm is an apk so yes you can install.

    I had my it department set me up for android device. I loaded the air watch client, put in server information provided by Dept, found some unpublished information on the actual air watch email proxy, and put it in. I'm guessing that if I had used an actual android device I could have found the server information there.

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    09-12-14 10:15 PM
  7. NetComrade's Avatar
    So you sideloaded air watch?
    Do you still need the google sync tool?

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    09-13-14 06:27 AM
  8. mrjmc99's Avatar
    No, I'm running native bb10 air watch client. The android one doesn?t work, device shows comprised.

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    09-13-14 10:08 AM
  9. HotFix's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 appears to supported by Airwatch:
    http://www.air-watch.com/solutions/blackberry

    Problem solved?

    Posted via CB10 on my Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.3337
    09-13-14 12:18 PM
  10. mrjmc99's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 appears to supported by Airwatch:
    http://www.air-watch.com/solutions/blackberry

    Problem solved?

    Posted via CB10 on my Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.3337
    It is, however my company said they didn't want to create a profile for BlackBerry since I was the only user. Lazy......

    Somehow I'm piggybacking off of the existing ios and android setups.

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    09-13-14 12:39 PM
  11. NetComrade's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 appears to supported by Airwatch:
    http://www.air-watch.com/solutions/blackberry

    Problem solved?

    Posted via CB10 on my Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.3337
    It still requires BES 10 server

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    09-13-14 12:53 PM
  12. HotFix's Avatar
    It still requires BES 10 server

    Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2
    They way I read the link is that it doesn't require a BES to support BlackBerry 10 devices, but rather it can interoperable with a BES of you have one to provide you a single plane of glass.

    Specifically this line leads me to believe a BES isn't needed:
    "Users can enroll BlackBerry devices without administrator interaction by navigating to the URL, and entering the specified Group ID and credentials. Then, users are authenticated and AirWatch pushes user-specific profiles and apps to the device. Email auto-discovery is supported for BlackBerry 10."

    I could be wrong though.

    Posted via CB10 on my Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.3337
    09-13-14 01:36 PM
  13. HotFix's Avatar
    I stand corrected. Today the Airwatch app still needs a BES connection in the back end. It was announced in May that this was changing, but it's unclear when the new APIs would materialize:
    http://blogs.air-watch.com/2014/05/b.../#.VBT_t39MXZs

    It's possible these APIs are
    what BlackBerry means by the system integrity and credential manager on the following road map:
    http://developer.blackberry.com/nati...loads/roadmap/

    Posted via CB10 on my Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.3337
    09-13-14 10:47 PM
  14. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Either way, it's funny because I'm being proxied through air watch as if I'm an android phone to eas. Except there are no policies being forced on my phone. I wonder how long it will last until I'm caught. Lol

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    09-14-14 12:03 PM
  15. NetComrade's Avatar
    I may get a Q10 from ebay and play around. Last time I got something from Verizon I ended up paying around $200 in activation and de-activation fees.

    I did see the new API stuff they came out with in May, but I doubt Airwatch and the like took advantage of it yet.
    09-15-14 11:29 AM
  16. bobshine's Avatar
    Either way, it's funny because I'm being proxied through air watch as if I'm an android phone to eas. Except there are no policies being forced on my phone. I wonder how long it will last until I'm caught. Lol

    Z30STA100-3/10.3.0.1154
    Hi!

    I'm very interested in how you managed to sync your phone!

    I am in the same situation as you and oddly enough, I was able to do the exact same thing that you did with my Z10. (used the Airwatch app from BB10, enrolled the phone, manually entered the active sync info) and it worked!

    But i am not able to reproduce it on my new Z30. Each time I try to enroll my z30, it says that my administrator blocked my enrolment.

    When did you enroll your device? Are you able to reproduce it? What are the steps you did?

    Posted via CB10
    09-15-14 12:08 PM
  17. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Hi!

    I'm very interested in how you managed to sync your phone!

    I am in the same situation as you and oddly enough, I was able to do the exact same thing that you did with my Z10. (used the Airwatch app from BB10, enrolled the phone, manually entered the active sync info) and it worked!

    But i am not able to reproduce it on my new Z30. Each time I try to enroll my z30, it says that my administrator blocked my enrolment.

    When did you enroll your device? Are you able to reproduce it? What are the steps you did?

    Posted via CB10
    You might have reached the max number of devices. My company has a maximum of 2 per person. Try using the self service portal and delete any extra phones.

    I'm currently trying to see if I can get attachments since the add policy blocks them. I'm going to try the ios profile tomorrow when one of the iPhone guys is working.

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    09-15-14 02:03 PM
  18. bobshine's Avatar
    Hmmm interesting. Cause I do have two devices enrolled.

    And I noticed also that on the Z10, Airwatch isn't able to enforce the policies

    How do you access the self service console? I don't think I have access to it.

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    Last edited by bobshine; 09-15-14 at 06:01 PM.
    09-15-14 05:48 PM
  19. mrjmc99's Avatar
    try taking the first 2 letters of your server and change it to cs. Its a Web page

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    09-15-14 07:12 PM
  20. bobshine's Avatar
    try taking the first 2 letters of your server and change it to cs. Its a Web page

    Z30STA100-3/10.3.0.1154
    I was able to access the console using https://aw.xxx.ca

    But the weird thing is that I don't have any device enrolled! It actually ask me, as I log in, if I want to register a device. If I say yes, I get an error message.

    That being said, I am still getting emails on my Z10. And my android device has been removed since I haven't changed the password for a while.

    So I doesn't seem like it's the two device limit. I'll try to enroll my android device and see what happens

    Posted via CB10
    09-15-14 09:22 PM
  21. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Try using a different group id, it doesn't show devices that don't match your group. It's weird

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    09-15-14 09:55 PM
  22. bobshine's Avatar
    Well officially, I don't have any device enrolled! That's probably why I don't see any device. If I enroll my Samsung tablet, it's probably gonna show up.

    But i am wondering how my Z10 is still synced

    Posted via CB10
    09-15-14 10:10 PM
  23. mrjmc99's Avatar
    Well officially, I don't have any device enrolled! That's probably why I don't see any device. If I enroll my Samsung tablet, it's probably gonna show up.

    But i am wondering how my Z10 is still synced

    Posted via CB10
    Probably another air watch security hole

    Z30STA100-3/10.3.0.1154
    09-15-14 10:47 PM
  24. bobshine's Avatar
    We should be more discreet about all this! Lol

    I like the fact that I can get my corporate account synced on my Z10.

    Posted via CB10
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    09-15-14 11:04 PM
  25. crazyslakr's Avatar
    My company uses this air watch on all company phones but I was under the impression this was for pushing profiles and setups to the phone, ie(phone has to have lock, when we switched email from in house server to outlook365, company app pushed to phone) . I also use email on my personal z-10 using active sync and no air watch at all on this device.

    Posted via CB10
    09-16-14 07:32 AM
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