[ohaiguise]

It's more likely that the 10.3.x branch is the last we'll get.

[Richard Buckley]

It would be interesting to see how many BB10 phones are sold in the upcoming quarters. Blackberry will likely not break the numbers down by OS though. Some have said in these forums that 120,000 of the 800,000 above were bbos phones.

That would not surprise me. I know of some quite large corporate users who are still on BBOS, some of those pending roll-out of equivalent or better capability on BB10.

The real point is that you can't simply look at the situation through consumers' eyes and see the whole picture. Nor can you look only at enterprise and get the whole picture. What do we know about the level of sales and profitability of Boeing Black, or other "secure Android" phones for example? For anyone who expects BlackBerry to be able to produce an Android phone secure enough for the most demanding security conscious enterprise customers the fact that the US DoD seems to have cancelled their secure Android phone project after years of development has to be significant.

I am confident we will get 10.3.3 in March and one update after that. Whether the next is 10.4.0 or 10.3.4 will be a telling point. But what happens to BB10 after that depends on whether BlackBerry is able to convince their high security customers that a BlackBerry Android phone meets their needs, and if not, whether BlackBerry decides to continue to service that market.

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[crucial bbq]

We should get a good idea of their roadmap with the 10.3.3 update. If it is solely a security update then that might be it for BB10. Some are adamant that 10.3.3 and 10.3.4 are security updates only; personally, I think we will see other updates, possibly a new feature or two, with the releases as well. Depending on what else comes, it should provide insight into what BlackBerry intends to do with BB10.

[Nazmi Saifee]

Come to think of it, I don't remember Crackberry updating their own app on bb10 platform in the last 1 year.

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[anon(9158709)]

10.3.3 for security patches and minor bug fixes. That's all. Yay us!

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[ohaiguise]

That would not surprise me. I know of some quite large corporate users who are still on BBOS, some of those pending roll-out of equivalent or better capability on BB10.

The real point is that you can't simply look at the situation through consumers' eyes and see the whole picture. Nor can you look only at enterprise and get the whole picture. What do we know about the level of sales and profitability of Boeing Black, or other "secure Android" phones for example? For anyone who expects BlackBerry to be able to produce an Android phone secure enough for the most demanding security conscious enterprise customers the fact that the US DoD seems to have cancelled their secure Android phone project after years of development has to be significant.

I am confident we will get 10.3.3 in March and one update after that. Whether the next is 10.4.0 or 10.3.4 will be a telling point. But what happens to BB10 after that depends on whether BlackBerry is able to convince their high security customers that a BlackBerry Android phone meets their needs, and if not, whether BlackBerry decides to continue to service that market.

LeapSTR100-2/10.3.2.2639

A lot of the big customers are happy to move on to Android because BES12 is cross-platform.

BB 10 won't even get a look-in.

[Richard Buckley]

A lot of the big customers are happy to move on to Android because BES12 is cross-platform.

BB 10 won't even get a look-in.

That may be true of some large customers. But many are not willing to accept Android as secure enough, even with BES. Maybe in time BlackBerry will be able to convince them that a BlackBerry Android phone with BES is secure enough, but these enterprises are notoriously conservative. I know some that are still using BBOS 7 and BES 5 because it has taken this long for them to accept BB10

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[Vistaus]

Come to think of it, I don't remember Crackberry updating their own app on bb10 platform in the last 1 year.

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I know, right? At least shortcuts for the Passport would be welcomed by me as the current shortcuts in the app are with the Alt key which the PP doesn't have.

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[anon9688330]

I hope not.