10.2 upgrade Rogers SIM on Verizon

12-11-13 10:21 PM

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Rogers SIM isn't allowing me to upgrade 10.2 OTA on Verizon Z10. Is it the wrong carrier version SIM, GSM or CDMA?? My device is unlocked.

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12-11-13 08:37 PM

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diegonei

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This is a long shot, but it could be because the radions and device models are completely different?

12-11-13 08:41 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by diegonei

This is a long shot, but it could be because the radions and device models are completely different?

I don't know maybe.?. Lol

12-11-13 08:49 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by diegonei

This is a long shot, but it could be because the radions and device models are completely different?

I'm thinking Rogers is a GSM not a CDMA carrier as to why it dont, not sure though.

12-11-13 09:02 PM

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bobshine

Rogers and Verizon has totally different radios. So I guess it won't work.

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12-11-13 09:07 PM

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BBGeek1

Dang, I didnt know that. Rogers is GSM, correct?

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12-11-13 09:15 PM

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ital1

Yes Rogers is GSM; what happens if you switch to Wifi with the SIM still in and check for updates? I was under the impression that Verizon units can handle both CDMA, and GSM Sims for when roaming?

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12-11-13 09:23 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by ital1

Yes Rogers is GSM; what happens if you switch to Wifi with the SIM still in and check for updates? I was under the impression that Verizon units can handle both CDMA, and GSM Sims for when roaming?

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Probably why then. I did and had to use WiFi to connect cause without got only emergency calls only, it didn't work either. I didnt know for sure
if Rogers was GSM or not when I bought the SIM.

12-11-13 09:35 PM

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Benjamin_NYC

Originally Posted by BBGeek1

Rogers SIM isn't allowing me to upgrade 10.2 OTA on Verizon Z10. Is it the wrong carrier version SIM, GSM? My device is unlocked.

Terrible idea. If it even worked, I think your phone would be shot. You're lucky it's not working.

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12-11-13 09:39 PM

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Benjamin_NYC

Originally Posted by BBGeek1

Probably why then. I did and had to use WiFi to connect cause without got only emergency calls only, it didn't work either. I didnt know for sure
if Rogers was GSM or not when I bought the SIM.

Rogers was GSM when you bought the SIM. Hence...the SIM.

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12-11-13 09:40 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by Benjamin_NYC

Terrible idea. If it even worked, I think your phone would be shot. You're lucky it's not working.

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I didnt know Rogers was a GSM carrier not a CDMA.

12-11-13 09:43 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by Benjamin_NYC

Rogers was GSM when you bought the SIM. Hence...the SIM.

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CDMA uses SIM too.

12-11-13 09:44 PM

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bobshine

The SIM card in your phone is only used to roam when you are outside the US. Within the US, unless things has changed, you are stuck on Verizon. So even if you put a different SIM in, it won't upgrade.

Remember CDMA phones has to be authorised to be on a network... so I think the only way you can upgrade beside the official from Verizon is by installing a leak.

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12-11-13 09:50 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by bobshine

The SIM card in your phone is only used to roam when you are outside the US. Within the US, unless things has changed, you are stuck on Verizon. So even if you put a different SIM in, it won't upgrade.

Remember CDMA phones has to be authorised to be on a network... so I think the only way you can upgrade beside the official from Verizon is by installing a leak.

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Thanks, I thought if this was or have another CDMA carrier's SIM it would work. Looks like I'll have to use a leak, autoloader method.

12-11-13 09:54 PM

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i_hiker

You can install Rogers 10.2 OS on VZW Z10 using Sachesi....no problem, and works very well!

CB10 via Z10 on 10.2.0.429

12-11-13 09:56 PM

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Benjamin_NYC

Originally Posted by BBGeek1

CDMA uses SIM too.

No.

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12-11-13 10:09 PM

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Benjamin_NYC

Originally Posted by BBGeek1

Thanks, I thought if this was or have another CDMA carrier's SIM it would work. Looks like I'll have to use a leak, autoloader method.

It is not possible to use "another CDMA carrier's SIM" because no CDMA carrier uses a SIM.

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12-11-13 10:11 PM

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waterfrontmgmt

4G CDMA phones use SIM cards, no?

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12-11-13 10:12 PM

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BBGeek1

Verizon does. I have one in my phone.

12-11-13 10:14 PM

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waterfrontmgmt

Originally Posted by waterfrontmgmt

4G CDMA phones use SIM cards. Yes.

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12-11-13 10:14 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by i_hiker

You can install Rogers 10.2 OS on VZW Z10 using Sachesi....no problem, and works very well!

CB10 via Z10 on 10.2.0.429

I know of that method, but have never used Sachesi. I've done autoloader however.

12-11-13 10:15 PM

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BBGeek1

Originally Posted by waterfrontmgmt

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Yes

12-11-13 10:16 PM

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dman2009

Verizon LTE phones have SIM cards for the LTE service. The CDMA portion of the phone handles voice, 2G and 3G data. For now, carriers cannot use LTE for voice. That's apparently coming soon but isn't implemented yet. So, having or not having a SIM card is not the logical test for CDMA or GSM due to the addition of the LTE radio.

12-11-13 10:19 PM

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waterfrontmgmt

This makes sense.

Originally Posted by dman2009

Verizon LTE phones have SIM cards for the LTE service. The CDMA portion of the phone handles voice, 2G and 3G data. For now, carriers cannot use LTE for voice. That's apparently coming soon but isn't implemented yet. So, having or not having a SIM card is not the logical test for CDMA or GSM due to the addition of the LTE radio.

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