- hey guys, I didn't get approved for the LE, however I have a dev alpha B running the leaked OS and was thinking about just keeping it forever? Can I do that?02-05-13 11:26 PMLike 0
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To use that as a daily phone though would be just plain ugly.02-05-13 11:59 PMLike 0 - I'm sure you can, but you'll have to keep on running leaked OS updates then.
Make sure you don't do any official updates because eventually the Dev Alphas will be bricked.
However the deadline to get an LE got extended didn't it? Are you sure you can't get one?02-06-13 12:00 AMLike 0 -
- im getting an LE my cousin isn't he is gonna keep his one no matter what he aint gonna return and BBRY has not emailed people to return their devices they might let it go and just send a notice email saying we wouldnt provide the warranty and support for the phone means you can use the phone no repairs and software updates! So that means you own a BB10 for sure!02-06-13 04:33 AMLike 0
- I find it a little frustrating that so many non developers ended up with a Dev Alpha, I personally know 6 people that have a Dev Alpha, yet wouldn't be able to set up signing keys if their life depended on it and they had a YouTube video to guide them.
I also know a real developers that has over 30 decent quality apps available in BlackBerry world for BB10 with no Dev Alpha and no chance of getting a LE device.
If you can't qualify for the LE device, than you probably shouldn't of had a Dev Alpha in the first place. They made it so ridiculously easily to qualify, that I'm surprised anyone that can read instructions would be declined. If it was an app that wasnt a web launcher and wasn't a repackages Android app, you pretty much had it covered. I made 6 eligible apps, of which I submitted the worst one first. A app that literally took less than 30 minutes to make, qualified. A very simple webworks app that does less than a fart app, yet it still qualified. I never needed to resubmit my registration with a better app. Their standards are so low, that if it somewhat works and was packaged with the proper SDK, you're good to go. Its really not hard stuff.
Blah, I'm not meaning to attack any one here personally, just kinda frustrated that I know so many deserving developers that won't be getting a LE device. Simply because they couldn't get a Dev Alpha02-06-13 06:38 AMLike 10 - I find it a little frustrating that so many non developers ended up with a Dev Alpha, I personally know 6 people that have a Dev Alpha, yet wouldn't be able to set up signing keys if their life depended on it and they had a YouTube video to guide them.
I also know a real developers that has over 30 decent quality apps available in BlackBerry world for BB10 with no Dev Alpha and no chance of getting a LE device.
If you can't qualify for the LE device, than you probably shouldn't of had a Dev Alpha in the first place. They made it so ridiculously easily to qualify, that I'm surprised anyone that can read instructions would be declined. If it was an app that wasnt a web launcher and wasn't a repackages Android app, you pretty much had it covered. I made 6 eligible apps, of which I submitted the worst one first. A app that literally took less than 30 minutes to make, qualified. A very simple webworks app that does less than a fart app, yet it still qualified. I never needed to resubmit my registration with a better app. Their standards are so low, that if it somewhat works and was packaged with the proper SDK, you're good to go. Its really not hard stuff.
Blah, I'm not meaning to attack any one here personally, just kinda frustrated that I know so many deserving developers that won't be getting a LE device. Simply because they couldn't get a Dev Alpha02-06-13 06:47 AMLike 0 - I find it a little frustrating that so many non developers ended up with a Dev Alpha, I personally know 6 people that have a Dev Alpha, yet wouldn't be able to set up signing keys if their life depended on it and they had a YouTube video to guide them.
I also know a real developers that has over 30 decent quality apps available in BlackBerry world for BB10 with no Dev Alpha and no chance of getting a LE device.
If you can't qualify for the LE device, than you probably shouldn't of had a Dev Alpha in the first place. They made it so ridiculously easily to qualify, that I'm surprised anyone that can read instructions would be declined. If it was an app that wasnt a web launcher and wasn't a repackages Android app, you pretty much had it covered. I made 6 eligible apps, of which I submitted the worst one first. A app that literally took less than 30 minutes to make, qualified. A very simple webworks app that does less than a fart app, yet it still qualified. I never needed to resubmit my registration with a better app. Their standards are so low, that if it somewhat works and was packaged with the proper SDK, you're good to go. Its really not hard stuff.
Blah, I'm not meaning to attack any one here personally, just kinda frustrated that I know so many deserving developers that won't be getting a LE device. Simply because they couldn't get a Dev Alpha
Totally right. BlackBerry made the rules quite simple. Not being able to qualify for an LE clearly demonstrates a lack of even the most basic BlackBerry app development skills. I hope they brick your devices if you end up trying to keep them against the rules. It's a form of theft. It's a shame real developers aren't qualifying for Dev Alpha's and these are being wasted.Saiga likes this.02-06-13 10:18 AMLike 1 - The deadline has again been extended to Feb 28. So please, just use those Dev Alphas to make apps, and you can legitimately get an LE.02-06-13 10:36 AMLike 0
- Totally right. BlackBerry made the rules quite simple. Not being able to qualify for an LE clearly demonstrates a lack of even the most basic BlackBerry app development skills. I hope they brick your devices if you end up trying to keep them against the rules. It's a form of theft. It's a shame real developers aren't qualifying for Dev Alpha's and these are being wasted.
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-06-13 04:13 PMLike 0 -
I hope they brick the dev alpha devices or at least ban the bbm/device PIN so you cant take advantage of the blackberry experience02-06-13 06:00 PMLike 0 - I'm pretty sure they'll be bricking the dev alpha device in some way soon (probably after the LE ships or shortly thereafter). Not hard for RIM to do that. There's still another month to go before the deadline expires...shouldn't you just try submitting something else? My app was denied approval first, but after fixing it up, got it approved.
While RIM distributed dev alpha's to quite a few people, some of us do make an effort to try to get the signing keys and learn the SDK's. I'm not a developer (last computer science course I took was in first year university), but I'm taking the time on the weekends and after work to learn how to build apps using BB10 tools. BB had to produce something to show developers (when developer support wasn't the greatest) and I think the dev alpha program has really done a good job. I've also used it to show people the power of the platform, and so it's both a marketing and development toolanon(3896606) likes this.02-06-13 06:21 PMLike 1 - Evaluation units in the past have had their PINs blocked. It wouldn't surprise me if they did the same thing to the Dev Alpha devices after the Limited Edition Z10s have been shipped. It might work for a while, and you might be able to use it after the kill date by loading a leaked OS, but you will probably lose any features that go through the NOC (BBM, Push, native BlackBerry apps).02-06-13 09:10 PMLike 0
- I'm pretty sure they'll be bricking the dev alpha device in some way soon (probably after the LE ships or shortly thereafter). Not hard for RIM to do that. There's still another month to go before the deadline expires...shouldn't you just try submitting something else? My app was denied approval first, but after fixing it up, got it approved.
While RIM distributed dev alpha's to quite a few people, some of us do make an effort to try to get the signing keys and learn the SDK's. I'm not a developer (last computer science course I took was in first year university), but I'm taking the time on the weekends and after work to learn how to build apps using BB10 tools. BB had to produce something to show developers (when developer support wasn't the greatest) and I think the dev alpha program has really done a good job. I've also used it to show people the power of the platform, and so it's both a marketing and development tool
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-07-13 10:09 AMLike 0 - You know. You guys really scared me. "HTML5 apps don't count"
DON'T SAY THAT.
Try looking at the FAQ and terms and conditions! https://developer.blackberry.com/dev...ition_faq.html
WebWorks apps are eligible.
Heck Android PORTS are eligible!
People. Before you make a statement like that read up a little. Sheesh. You share the squimish around here!02-07-13 11:06 PMLike 0 - You know. You guys really scared me. "HTML5 apps don't count"
DON'T SAY THAT.
Try looking at the FAQ and terms and conditions! https://developer.blackberry.com/dev...ition_faq.html
WebWorks apps are eligible.
Heck Android PORTS are eligible!
People. Before you make a statement like that read up a little. Sheesh. You share the squimish around here!
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB10Last edited by Flip4Bytes; 02-08-13 at 09:04 PM.
Saiga likes this.02-08-13 01:39 AMLike 1 - I'm detecting very sour comments. If I only made a web works app that's OK, not rubbish like some here try to say.
I have the experience building websites and working with HTML5 but demanding current BB10 Dev Alpha users to build in Cascades because "Web Works and html5 is rubbish" is childish. Same as demanding a GP to practice a brain surgery.02-08-13 09:44 AMLike 0 - Originally Posted by Flip4BytesNever said HTML5 WebWorks apps don't count.. what I brought up is that if you were lucky enough to get a dev alpha, then you should be making native apps anyways.. The performance difference between WebWorks and native is like night and day. Sure WebWorks and in some cases android ports do qualify for the LE, but it's still a shame for Dev Alpha owners to not make Native Cascades apps. Sure, go make a WebWorks app or anything for that matter.. we'd all take that over you just keeping your Dev Alpha because you don't care about learning how to dev.. shouldn't have a Dev Alpha in the first case if this is the issue.. (that is said more so towards the OP).schmeat likes this.02-08-13 10:30 AMLike 1
- Interestingly enough, my app tested fine in Ripple but totally didn't work on the Dev Alpha. Had to get it debugged. Nothing like an actual device to test with...02-08-13 11:12 AMLike 0
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Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-08-13 01:26 PMLike 0 - The rules don't say squat about it having to be a native app to qualify. BlackBerry set the standards. If you met those standards, than you done everything required of you and are as deserving to receive a LE device as anyone else that is getting one. In my opinion anyway.
Which is better, web developers making apps and trading their Dev Alpha for a LE. Or consumers getting Dev Alphas with no intention of ever making a BB10 app and then making plans to keep them and put final software on their stolen development tool?Last edited by Saiga; 02-08-13 at 02:22 PM.
schmeat likes this.02-08-13 02:07 PMLike 1 - The rules don't say squat about it having to be a native app to qualify. BlackBerry set the standards. If you met those standards, than you done everything required of you and are as deserving to receive a LE device as anyone else that is getting one. In my opinion anyway.
Which is better, web developers making apps and trading their Dev Alpha for a LE. Or consumers getting Dev Alphas with no intention of ever making a BB10 app and then making plans to keep them and put final software on their stolen development tool?
Just because you can take the easy road and get the same reward, why not help out the ecosystem because BlackBerry is counting on us and that's why they have this whole dev alpha and LE device thing in the first place. I am not arguing with ANYONE and I understand EVERYTHING that is being said.. I'm simply stating my opinion, just because there is an easy way out, doesn't mean it's the best way. There is no reason to argue with my opinion, it's just how I feel as I want to see BlackBerry succeed, I'm not just using them to get try n get free stuff. I am a web designer, that is my full time job.. So I know HTML and CSS like the back of my hand, and yes designing for WebWorks was much easier.. But I want to see BlackBerry succeed, so I remade my app using Cascades, learned how to use it, and pushed through it. Did I have to do that? Absolutely not.. But I am trying to help BlackBerry World, as enough people are complaining already about the immense amount of Android ports that are running very lackluster on the OS. Do I feel like someone who makes an app in WebWorks or an Android Port does NOT deserve a LE device? NO! I NEVER SAID THAT... I am simply stating that if you were lucky enough to get a Dev Alpha, why not try and give BlackBerry back the support that they gave you in return.. Yes, its NOT the easy way out as I previously mentioned, but do you want to help the platform out, or just do the bare minimum to get a LE device? That's what you have to decide, and I have already chosen a side.
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-08-13 08:48 PMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardHope BlackBerry standards improve for native apps, there's so much rubbish in the store and I'm not even talking about the 28,000 repackaged android apps.
Hope BlackBerry realise it's the apps that make or break a platform.
Hasn't the LE been extended 'til March?02-09-13 05:26 PMLike 0 - I completely agree, and yes, February 28th is the new deadline if I'm not mistaken (either that or the 18th, I don't remember)02-09-13 09:02 PMLike 0
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