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  1. 00stryder's Avatar
    Lol I'm telling you, Google wanted this info for themselves to sell to advertisers.

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    01-02-14 01:00 PM
  2. R Field's Avatar
    People who say security isn't a issue for them for phones or the apps they use are getting rude awakenings...

    BlackBerry Z30 | 10.2.1.1925 | BBM Channel C0006E212
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    01-02-14 01:31 PM
  3. Houshinto's Avatar
    People who say security isn't a issue for them for phones or the apps they use are getting rude awakenings...

    BlackBerry Z30 | 10.2.1.1925 | BBM Channel C0006E212
    Still waiting...
    Hacking, NSA, etc, has been reported frequently in the last few years and the general consumer still does not care. That's not going to change because the threat is not direct and immediate. People would rather limit specific apps then change platforms and have a perceived lack of apps.
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    01-02-14 02:55 PM
  4. iN8ter's Avatar
    Funny that this is still "relative" low key news given the popularity of the app and the extent of the compromise. Or its just me not reading the right papers. The cynic in me says if this happened to BlackBerry, it would have been lapped up and be front page news on every tech publication out there.


    Its been easy for competitors to promote negative stories about BlackBerry, focusing on the business of the past. But Im not focused on who BlackBerry used to be Im focused on what BlackBerry will be today and in the future. John Chen, December 2013
    Snapchat isn't that big a deal. Snapchat is only "popular" because of the porn scandal where people were calling it a sexting app.

    A lot of nave kids do use the app because they are ignorant that those photos/videos can be retained, anyways, by different means... Snapchat is not secure. Snapchat is not as great as many make it seem. Snapchat is not even all that innovative as can be seen by how quickly it took others like Facebook to almost completely clone it.

    The reason why no one is talking about it (all the tech blogs did post about it, but it's not "National News" by any means) is because the service isn't as big as a lot of people tend to think it is simply because they know 5 kids that use it heavily.

    If this had happened to Instagram, Facebook, Apple's Photo Streams, or Google+ it would be a completely different story.

    What I find interesting is that people these days don't care about propagating their information to any "next greatest" start-up to gain access to "features" that practically already exist on the services they already use. I always try to keep my information in as few places as possible, and this is why I was such a PITA about not being able to remove my phone number from my Google Account (which they finally allowed us to do a couple/few weeks ago - for numbers that were stuck on your account since MAY of last year!).

    I also don't think web services like Snapchat have any business asking users for their telephone numbers. There are other ways to verify that a phone is a phone, and they should probably use those instead...
    01-02-14 03:18 PM
  5. texazzpete's Avatar
    Funny that this is still "relative" low key news given the popularity of the app and the extent of the compromise. Or its just me not reading the right papers. The cynic in me says if this happened to BlackBerry, it would have been lapped up and be front page news on every tech publication out there.

    It's just you not reading any reputable tech blog/website. this is front page news on nearly any prominent tech blog you can think about.
    01-02-14 03:23 PM
  6. iN8ter's Avatar
    It's just you not reading any reputable tech blog/website. this is front page news on nearly any prominent tech blog you can think about.
    Maybe she wants it on Fox News, MSNBC, etc. the way AntennaGate, the FB IPO mess, etc. was?

    SnapChat isn't that important.
    01-02-14 04:34 PM
  7. Kah Carter's Avatar
    So basically, to regain the peace and freedom from unsolicited phone calls that users once enjoyed, you propose that it is simply as easy as compromised users taking additional measures to ensure what a company that was trusted with their information should have secured in the first place?

    I mean, you're right that call block would stop repeated calls from the same/unknown numbers, but that's not always fool-proof and generally preventive measures are a lot easier and less frustrating to implement than defensive ones. (If you can stop the problem before it happens, then there's no problem to deal with.)

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    The only fool proof preventive measure is not to distribute your phone number... which obviously isn't feasible... hence defeating the purpose of having one...

    Kah
    01-02-14 07:17 PM
  8. NursingNinja's Avatar
    That's what you get for sexting you perv... sorry couldn't help it.
    01-02-14 08:53 PM
  9. FunktasticLucky's Avatar
    I commented when this was posted on reddit the other day pointing out why I hate the use of phone numbers for these apps. No privacy and what not. I then made the comment that I wished more people would give BBM a chance instead of blowing it off because it was made by BlackBerry. It's all about privacy and security. When's the last time you heard BBM getting hacked. And even then, they have a pin and a display name. Woooooo!

    I got blasted and downvoted into oblivion. People don't give 2 sh|tes.

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    01-02-14 09:40 PM
  10. Djlatino's Avatar
    Pretty ******* useless without passwords.

    No one uses their real info on snapchat lmao the dude who dumped this wants fame, he doesn't really wanna share the real goods. I nor anyone else can actually use this - It's so useless that a bag of dog poo probably does more.

    If you have your number there, the worst that can happen is you'll be put on a Gay Hotline with a guy asking you what you wear at night.
    01-02-14 10:06 PM
  11. MADBRADNYC's Avatar
    I kinda miss LiveProfile.
    This wouldn't happen with that service.
    I'm all for PIN based communication/chatting.

    I wish BlackBerry had put more effort into it, but they are going for the gold with cross-platform BBM.
    Which I love anyway!
    01-02-14 10:50 PM
  12. Omnitech's Avatar
    Snapchat is not even all that innovative as can be seen by how quickly it took others like Facebook to almost completely clone it.

    That's just as brilliant an argument as someone claiming that work of [insert random groundbreaking artist name here] isn't that big a deal because after the artwork was already made, someone could copy it and then claim to be a "brilliant artist".

    The fact that no one had a feature like Snapchat until Snapchat debuted it, is in itself, why it was an innovation. 20-20 hindset and a buck probably won't buy you a cup of coffee, either.

    That said, I agree with others here who suggest Snapchat's "security" isn't all that. Which is common. All sorts of vendors get away with all sorts of lazy ish all the time, they just cross their fingers and hope they don't get discovered before they've sold it to some sucker and run away with their [b|m]illions.


    (Edit: Removed a part of the post that appeared to be factually incorrect.
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    01-03-14 01:09 AM
  13. iN8ter's Avatar
    The reason it wasn't in other services is because none thought to put it there. Obvious things like this get left out all the time. Twitter and IG finally allowing private photo sharing, Video on Instagram, Facebook Lists, Comment Editing and Threaded Replies, etc. Those are all obvious things that were missing until competitors presented them and users showed interest by using that functionality in competing services. In that way, large players (sort of) allow startups to do market research for them as they become less agile when they grow and have to focus more on profit at the expense of some agility when they become liable to shareholders.

    All they did was automate the deletion. It was always possible to share images from a service and then delete it after it was viewed. All SnapChat did was automate that, in a way that only masquerades as being secure. That is very convenient for users and thats why they have garnered a good user base. Ease of use is a huge selling point in tech.

    A lot of these startups are too lazy with peoples personal information. If I don't want Google with my number, I don't want SnapChat with it.

    SnapChat is more ●convenient● than innovative.

    Instagram wasn't that innovative either. Facebook paid for users more than it paid for tech or IP.

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    Last edited by n8ter#AC; 01-03-14 at 01:37 AM.
    01-03-14 01:14 AM
  14. Omnitech's Avatar
    Like I said, someone has to be first. If they are first, they win.

    Makes no difference if someone can copy them later. That's not innovation.

    I'm not saying Snapchat is an amazing innovation, I'm saying they deserve at least some of the attention and success they got because they saw a need (enforced image expiration), built a network around it, and a lot of people liked it.

    The whole point of the patent system is to reward innovation in a world where duplication is trivial. Once again, cloning something that someone else invented isn't innovative. The idea is the point.

    This is like the numbnuts who think that they're Jackson Pollock because they can splat some paint on a canvas.
    01-03-14 01:38 AM
  15. R Field's Avatar
    I guess people will only care if their banking info gets leaked. http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/20...hat-data-leak/

    BlackBerry Z30 | 10.2.1.1925 | BBM Channel C0006E212
    01-04-14 12:36 AM
  16. R Field's Avatar

    This is like the numbnuts who think that they're Jackson Pollock because they can splat some paint on a canvas.
    I did that in grade 4 they give you a marble and mixed paint. You have a cardboard box with paper at the bottom dip the marble in paint and swirl the marble around. Repeat.

    BlackBerry Z30 | 10.2.1.1925 | BBM Channel C0006E212
    01-04-14 12:39 AM
  17. Omnitech's Avatar
    I did that in grade 4 they give you a marble and mixed paint. You have a cardboard box with paper at the bottom dip the marble in paint and swirl the marble around. Repeat.
    Well you have a promising career as a major artist ahead of you then.
    01-04-14 02:12 AM
  18. Omnitech's Avatar
    Mistaken post.
    01-04-14 02:14 AM
  19. Omnitech's Avatar
    I guess people will only care if their banking info gets leaked. http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/20...hat-data-leak/
    And a lot of people won't care even then.

    And if you offer them a free hamburger, they'll give you almost any private info you want...
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    01-04-14 02:16 AM
  20. bobshine's Avatar
    Finally Snapchat apologised and now phone numbers are not required anymore

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    01-09-14 07:15 PM
  21. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Yep. I'm in the leak. But it is just a user name, right? What is the big deal? And my personal name and phone number is all over the place. I've given it to every company I've ever signed up with. So what is the value to this information to nefarious folks?

    Also I don't use the app. I just downloaded it to see how it worked. Kids use it a lot though. So it is popular with the youths.

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    issues I can think of is spam calls and scam charities.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.1925
    01-09-14 07:19 PM
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