I can't believe they published this garbage on BBM
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"The BBM messaging application, however, will prove to be nearly impossible to monetize."
It will monetize with BBM channels with ad space sold to businesses and promoting their channels its already been announced many times I guess you failed to do your research.
"Fake app reviews note"
If you check Google Play there are the same amount of 1 star fake reviews as there are 5 star. I fail to see how this helps the app.
It also has over 500,000 Google+ recommendations.
"Vanilla app offering? "
I've used all the messaging IM clients and BBM is secure and the most robust offering out there I don't need to publish my phone number either.
BBM will release the voice/video and channels to iOS and Android
it will just get a lot bigger going forward.
"Active users "
At last quote they have over 80 MILLION active users not downloads. 60 million BlackBerry BBM users and at least 20 million from Android/iOS
You compared it to snapchat? Its not even a IM client its a picture sharing app....
Lastly do you know the valuation per user that Facebook/twitter/snapchat gets as valuation per user or did you just ignore that part?12-15-13 11:37 AMLike 0 - What would be interesting to see if a side by side comparison of WhatsApp subscriptions and compare it to BBM subscriptions when BBM went cross platform.
I know I ditched WhatsApp on my Z and my SGIII. As soon as WP gets BBM I'll ditch it frrom the iPhone.
As far as I'm concerned there is no comparison. I used it when there was no alternative, but as soon as BBMx happened, I jettisoned it.
It's growing and developing. It will kill WhatsApp in terms of functionality soon.12-15-13 11:43 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1012-16-13 07:25 AMLike 0 - Doubt that many of those "downloads" turned into daily active users. I know that BBM isn't a popular download on Android anymore and haven't heard much good about it from iOS users. The few people I got to try it, ALL uninstalled it. It was killing their battery and the user base just never reached any kind of critical mass in this area.
To be honest they need a FULL featured app to be release ASAP! And it had better work well and not cause resource issues.... I'm not sure how many more times they will get people to try it.12-16-13 12:02 PMLike 3 - Doubt that many of those "downloads" turned into daily active users. I know that BBM isn't a popular download on Android anymore and haven't heard much good about it from iOS users. The few people I got to try it, ALL uninstalled it. It was killing their battery and the user base just never reached any kind of critical mass in this area.
To be honest they need a FULL featured app to be release ASAP! And it had better work well and not cause resource issues.... I'm not sure how many more times they will get people to try it.
BlackBerry Z30 | 10.2.1.1055 | BBM Channel C0006E212milo53 likes this.12-16-13 12:50 PMLike 1 - Doubt that many of those "downloads" turned into daily active users. I know that BBM isn't a popular download on Android anymore and haven't heard much good about it from iOS users. The few people I got to try it, ALL uninstalled it. It was killing their battery and the user base just never reached any kind of critical mass in this area.
To be honest they need a FULL featured app to be release ASAP! And it had better work well and not cause resource issues.... I'm not sure how many more times they will get people to try it.
And I am using it quite heavily in both my iPhone and my SGIII ever since getting it. And of course my Z.
As are all my family and friends who installed it. We had all used it when we were all on BlackBerry and we're all using it again.
I don't think it is accurate to think that those who downloaded it deleted it.
Sent from whichever BBM carrying device I happen to grab, via Tapatalk12-16-13 01:02 PMLike 0 -
But then I don't live in an area where BBM enjoys 20% - 40% marketshare. In those areas I'm sure BBM is growing.... just not sure it off sets the number of BlackBerry owners that are leaving BBM and the BlackBerry hardware behind.12-16-13 01:52 PMLike 0 - Friday we will get active users for the quarter... that way it will "look" pretty impressive and can be used to try and monetize BBM by getting companies to pay for premium Channels. They are not going to come out an say "well we started out great, but by this week the active users on BBM has dropped to XX,XXX number of user.
R Field, if you had 24 BBM "friends" to begin with, then you are in a market that is already above normal. Either BlackBerry is popular where you live, are you have a number of internet "friends" you have never meet in your address book.12-17-13 07:15 AMLike 0 - just_lucRetired Moderator
Posted via CB1012-17-13 07:29 AMLike 0 - Friday we will get active users for the quarter... that way it will "look" pretty impressive and can be used to try and monetize BBM by getting companies to pay for premium Channels. They are not going to come out an say "well we started out great, but by this week the active users on BBM has dropped to XX,XXX number of user.
R Field, if you had 24 BBM "friends" to begin with, then you are in a market that is already above normal. Either BlackBerry is popular where you live, are you have a number of internet "friends" you have never meet in your address book.
Also, there are some apps that I use sporadically but which I keep. An excellent example and very much related to the conversation is WhatsApp, which I have not used since BBMx launched but which I still have in one device. I haven't deleted but it's just "there."
I don't know how many BBM users there are now....but frankly they gained one on my SGIII and one on my iPhone and they're still there. It's the only IM I've been using. My contacts have increased from two loved ones and CB related contacts to 57 total family, friends, and still CB related members.
I feel that BBM is brilliant, I love it.
Posted via CB1012-17-13 08:05 AMLike 0 - I've downloaded it on my SG4 and I love it as well as my Android friends and my one lol loser buddy who still uses an iPhone.
Posted via CB1012-17-13 08:18 AMLike 0 - Yes worthless as much as any other mobile app. Or is it? Its up to you to decide. We have several mobile apps that went public for Christ sake and although I agree they are vulnerable as much as Facebook and Twitter, another fad might show up and wipe em all away, they are worth something at least on stock market12-17-13 09:08 AMLike 0
- I re-installed BBM for Android on my Nexus 4 the other day just to try out the newest version and it is honestly like they took one step forward and a giant tumble backwards.
I added some random PINs from Twitter and tested the app out with total strangers. I was able to do my modification and force BBM for Android to rotate into landscape mode and everything worked. I was able to type out messages, view chats, contacts and everything else while in landscape mode. A huge improvement over the stock app that is foolishly stuck in portrait. Even after the mod, the first versions of BBM for Android I tried would force close when in landscape, which was a deal breaker for me.
The only problem? Notifications weren't working. I undid the auto-rotate modifications and still the same thing. So I uninstalled and re-installed the app and left it completely stock, with the "Show Notifications" option checked in settings and still, I had no notifications. No noise, no LED, no drop down panel pop-up, absolutely nothing to alert me of a new message. So I look on the reviews in Google Play and notice that I'm not the only one with the problem.
BBM for Android should have stayed in the oven until it was perfect. With so many other good options available, I simply don't need BBM for Android and I've already wasted enough of my time screwing with it. I and many others won't be revisiting the app.techvisor likes this.12-17-13 09:26 AMLike 1 - I'm afraid that the failure of BB10 made BlackBerry desperate to get something on the market that could at least give the impression of having potential as a real money maker. It's just like with BB10.... if the program had been completed, full featured, stable and fully functional, it would have been a hit (or at least a good shot at it). But releasing beta version, with a promise of more to come.... that has lead to many trying it and then deleting it just as quickly. The question becomes, will they give it a 2nd or 3rd try. Or will the markets where BlackBerry and BBM still have enough marketshare to be relevant allow them a foothold that they can use to grow from?techvisor likes this.12-17-13 09:58 AMLike 1
- I re-installed BBM for Android on my Nexus 4 the other day just to try out the newest version and it is honestly like they took one step forward and a giant tumble backwards.
I added some random PINs from Twitter and tested the app out with total strangers. I was able to do my modification and force BBM for Android to rotate into landscape mode and everything worked. I was able to type out messages, view chats, contacts and everything else while in landscape mode. A huge improvement over the stock app that is foolishly stuck in portrait. Even after the mod, the first versions of BBM for Android I tried would force close when in landscape, which was a deal breaker for me.
The only problem? Notifications weren't working. I undid the auto-rotate modifications and still the same thing. So I uninstalled and re-installed the app and left it completely stock, with the "Show Notifications" option checked in settings and still, I had no notifications. No noise, no LED, no drop down panel pop-up, absolutely nothing to alert me of a new message. So I look on the reviews in Google Play and notice that I'm not the only one with the problem.
BBM for Android should have stayed in the oven until it was perfect. With so many other good options available, I simply don't need BBM for Android and I've already wasted enough of my time screwing with it. I and many others won't be revisiting the app.
Notifications appear on the notifications centre for me. Not on the home screen, true, but I do get my notifications.
On my iPhone the notifications show up on the icon just like on BlackBerry BBM.
You may be seeing a design and not a flaw.
As far as landscape, I admit I haven't tried that. Not even on my Z. I use all my phones in portrait, always. I suppose I should test that.
Sent from whichever BBM carrying device I happen to grab, via TapatalkLast edited by qbnkelt; 12-17-13 at 11:27 AM.
12-17-13 11:10 AMLike 0 - I'm sorry Saiga but that's not even remotely my experience with BBM on my SGIII.
Notifications appear on the notifications centre for me. Not on the home screen, true, but I do get my notifications.
On my iPhone the notifications show up on the icon just like on BlackBerry BBM.
You may be seeing a design and not a flaw.
As far as landscape, I admit I haven't tried that. Not even on my Z. I use all my phones in portrait, always. I suppose I should test that.
Sent from whichever BBM carrying device I happen to grab, via Tapatalk12-17-13 11:21 AMLike 0 - 12-17-13 11:25 AMLike 0
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