1. birdman_38's Avatar
    I guess it's not the end of the world. I was thinking about this today- so what if BlackBerry only sells 2 percent of all phones in the world. As long as they focus on developing a premium brand and maintain growing level of profitability through increased service offerings, they'll be fine.
    I doubt they could survive as a boutique or status device on the consumer side. But yes, software & services along with maintaining the government and business contracts will be key.
    09-18-13 05:33 PM
  2. Tyler Nellissen's Avatar
    1.5M? with anything under 2M, if the company could not sell itself before Nov., the stock price will drop below $7.
    This is still my guess!

    Posted via CB10
    09-18-13 06:09 PM
  3. epyon52328's Avatar
    The main thing is that they sell enough units and make enough from services to keep the company going and keep thousands of people employed.

    Sent from my Q10
    09-18-13 06:36 PM
  4. Tariq Nasir's Avatar
    The main thing is that they sell enough units and make enough from services to keep the company going and keep thousands of people employed.

    Sent from my Q10
    Which they can..by offering BBM cross platform, they have a huge opportunity to make some serious bucks and have a large valuation, if they can get the user base to increase fast.

    Posted via CB10
    09-19-13 12:02 PM
  5. epyon52328's Avatar
    Which they can..by offering BBM cross platform, they have a huge opportunity to make some serious bucks and have a large valuation, if they can get the user base to increase fast.

    Posted via CB10
    And how are they going to make money from BBM? By loading it down with ads? My charging iOS and Android users for certian features? Or from companies using BBM channels? (if they even launch it) I love BlackBerry and BBM but having a top notch service isn't great unless you can use it to generate money.

    Sent from my Q10
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    09-19-13 01:22 PM
  6. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Which they can..by offering BBM cross platform, they have a huge opportunity to make some serious bucks and have a large valuation, if they can get the user base to increase fast.

    Posted via CB10
    ?

    And how are they going to do that?

    How much are they charging for BBM?
    Premium features that they most likely will charge for are "still coming" so that source of revenue is questionable for a while.
    Is BBM add supported? None of the screenshots I've seen showed any.
    BB Channels - has anyone noticed in big companies opening channels that might be a source of revenue?

    Even if the were to grow to several 100 Million users over the next few months.... how much do you expect that each user is worth to an advertiser? How much would BB make directly for any future premium features? I don't see BB being able to really monetize BBM for at least a year. And while I think they could bring in a pretty good profit once they built up enough users. It would be good for a start-up company, it won't be anything for a multi-billion dollar company like BB.
    09-19-13 02:20 PM
  7. cgk's Avatar
    We don't have a hard number but it appears that BB10 sales were sub one million - the final list looks like this:

    so if we are really really really generous - and say 49% are BB10 (and that would be highly generous) - that would be about 1.8 million? So even I who is seen here at a troll was over-optimistic by least 400,000 units....


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    • 6 The Rock
    • 7.5 Shanerredflag
    • 9 Soumaila Somtor


    It is likely that either:

    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • [1.5 Tyler Nelson



    Were the winners!
    09-20-13 03:57 PM
  8. Hilman76's Avatar
    We don't have a hard number but it appears that BB10 sales were sub one million - the final list looks like this:

    so if we are really really really generous - and say 49% are BB10 (and that would be highly generous) - that would be about 1.8 million? So even I who is seen here at a troll was over-optimistic by least 400,000 units....


    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • 1.5 Tyler Nelson
    • 1.7 Marc_Paradise
    • 1.75m0de25
    • 1.8 Nquyen
    • 1.9 Seawarrior
    • 1.96Chrysaurora
    • 2 Andrew4life
    • 2 lcjr
    • 2.1 Khf227
    • 2.1 Birdman_38
    • 2.2 ibpluto
    • 2.2 Notfanboy
    • 2.2 OMGitworks
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    • 2.35Scalemaster
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    • 2.41Randeman
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    • 2.5 Njblackberry
    • 2.5 Kid Vibe
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    • 2.6 Jay_men
    • 2.7 Gesig Boek
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    • 2.8 _dimi_
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    • 6 The Rock
    • 7.5 Shanerredflag
    • 9 Soumaila Somtor


    It is likely that either:

    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • [1.5 Tyler Nelson



    Were the winners!
    Soumaila was dam close with 9 million guess






    Sent from my Nexus 4 using CB Forums mobile app
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    09-20-13 04:22 PM
  9. Tyler Nellissen's Avatar
    We don't have a hard number but it appears that BB10 sales were sub one million - the final list looks like this:

    so if we are really really really generous - and say 49% are BB10 (and that would be highly generous) - that would be about 1.8 million? So even I who is seen here at a troll was over-optimistic by least 400,000 units....


    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • 1.5 Tyler Nelson
    • 1.7 Marc_Paradise
    • 1.75m0de25
    • 1.8 Nquyen
    • 1.9 Seawarrior
    • 1.96Chrysaurora
    • 2 Andrew4life
    • 2 lcjr
    • 2.1 Khf227
    • 2.1 Birdman_38
    • 2.2 ibpluto
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    • 2.35Scalemaster
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    • 2.41Randeman
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    • 2.7 Gesig Boek
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    • 2.8 _dimi_
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    • 3 Superfly_FR
    • 3 Sidhuk
    • 3.15Bungaboy
    • 3.2 Komoto
    • 3.3 Tariq Nasir
    • 3.4 Focusedberry
    • 3.4 Ribes Nigrum
    • 3.7 Cjcampbell
    • 3.8 Playbookster
    • 4 Morlock_man
    • 4.2 Delil
    • 4.4 w4rrior
    • 5.4 Undone
    • 5.5 Herol
    • 5.9 Silversun10
    • 6 The Rock
    • 7.5 Shanerredflag
    • 9 Soumaila Somtor


    It is likely that either:

    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • [1.5 Tyler Nelson



    Were the winners!
    Yay what does it mean for me?

    Posted via CB10
    09-20-13 04:25 PM
  10. cgk's Avatar
    Yay what does it mean for me?

    Posted via CB10
    You get stock advice off Thorsten Heins...

    (plus bragging rights).
    09-20-13 04:31 PM
  11. Blacklatino's Avatar
    Nope, single units. I predict they sold 2 phones and a spare back cover......
    Two? That's cold.

    "LOL. Remain Calm....and enjoy your Z. (~_*)"
    09-20-13 04:54 PM
  12. notfanboy's Avatar
    We don't have a hard number but it appears that BB10 sales were sub one million - the final list looks like this:

    so if we are really really really generous - and say 49% are BB10 (and that would be highly generous) - that would be about 1.8 million? So even I who is seen here at a troll was over-optimistic by least 400,000 units....

    It is likely that either:

    • 1.2 Greyw0lf01
    • [1.5 Tyler Nelson



    Were the winners!
    The BB10 sales looks like they are going to be unbelievably low. I don't understand how I could have been so wrong in my guess. I think that by hanging around the CB forums, the kool-aid managed to filter its way into my subconscious.
    09-20-13 07:18 PM
  13. cgk's Avatar
    I'm leaning towards sub-1,000,000 but I wouldn't be overly shocked at sub-500,000 in end users hands.
    09-20-13 07:20 PM
  14. notfanboy's Avatar
    I'm leaning towards sub-1,000,000 but I wouldn't be overly shocked at sub-500,000 in end users hands.
    But, but http://forums.crackberry.com/bbry-f3...ounter-846274/

    09-20-13 07:38 PM
  15. birdman_38's Avatar
    I was originally gonna say 1.6 but didn't wanna look like a dolt. Really thought full product lines across more carriers would have helped.
    Last edited by birdman_38; 10-05-13 at 10:42 PM.
    09-20-13 08:24 PM
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