CrackBerry Kevin - How Many Z10s Sold?
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- rumored 16,000 z10 shipped to SAP ... zee germanzz
Last edited by Fionn; 03-19-13 at 11:45 PM.
plane6065 and Acumenight like this.02-23-13 04:39 PMLike 2 - I am guessing the 16,000 number came from here: BlackBerry 10 Looking Good, Says SAP CIO - CIO.com
That would be assuming that all SAP blackberry users got upgraded at once, including in countries which haven't launched yet.
That's a bit much to believe.
Interesting part of the article is the split of devices:
20k iphones
20k ipads
4000 Samsung Android
16000 Blackberry
Quote:
SAP, based in Walldorf, Germany, has around 55,000 employees worldwide and already manages a complex ecosystem of 20,000 Apple iPads, a similar number of iPhones, and 4,000 Samsung Android handsets. Among its user base, it has about 16,000 BlackBerry users, he said. SAP is a beta tester of BlackBerry 10.02-23-13 07:05 PMLike 5 - I am guessing the 16,000 number came from here: BlackBerry 10 Looking Good, Says SAP CIO - CIO.com
That would be assuming that all SAP blackberry users got upgraded at once, including in countries which haven't launched yet.
That's a bit much to believe.
Interesting part of the article is the split of devices:
20k iphones
20k ipads
4000 Samsung Android
16000 Blackberry
Quote:
SAP, based in Walldorf, Germany, has around 55,000 employees worldwide and already manages a complex ecosystem of 20,000 Apple iPads, a similar number of iPhones, and 4,000 Samsung Android handsets. Among its user base, it has about 16,000 BlackBerry users, he said. SAP is a beta tester of BlackBerry 10.EvanRitch likes this.02-23-13 07:58 PMLike 1 -
It's becoming another CB misinformation item.02-23-13 09:40 PMLike 0 - I disagree as I take the view that they want to be able to show massive foreign sales etc to turn the 'momentum' / US perception around of being a total fail. This is why they have opened so many more markets than ever expected. Unit shipped=Unit sold. They are pushing these out like hot cakes to have a big 'win' surprise BEFORE US launch...So they have to announce in early March if you believe, like I do, that is their strategy.02-24-13 12:04 AMLike 0
- Bull predicion by Indian tech show, Launch Monday morning 6am PST live by one of top hottest bollywood actor, he received all top awards this year..Mumbai population alone 18 millions, 5 big cities alone more than 100 million population. Millions of high income users that include politicians, enterprises, actors, high tech companies such as TATA, Wipro, tech support centres, progammers..
Is the BlackBerry comeback already on? : NDTV Gadgets
whisper un-confirmed pre-order number is 50k,
Remember all Z10 left the BB warehouse considered sold even if they have not made to consumers..02-24-13 01:04 AMLike 0 - Most of the Z10's purchased right now are going to be by consumers, rather than corporate. Not a lot of companies have fully upgraded to BES10, and so companies are not rolling out BB10 devices this quickly. For old BB's, it was easier for companies to buy large batches of new ones because it's only an update to BES and the phone can run fine.
Frankly, in my view, the Z10 doesn't NEED to sell like iPhones, S3's, etc. It's a gen one product. BB just needs to stabilize the business and hope the drop in sales of legacy BB phones aren't too quick (unlike symbian). The way BB has carved up the market is actually pretty good. Rather than cannibalize legacy OS7 phones, BB10 is being pitched as high end phones that have different feature sets than old OS 7 phones (BIS, compression, etc.). Hopefully BB can balance the two OS' properly, unlike Nokia, which is being destroyed by slow sales in WP8 and collapsing sales for Symbian.EchoTango likes this.02-24-13 01:38 AMLike 1 - If you have doubt on how well the Z10 is and will sell, the following news may enlighten you a little.
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Excerptions from
Emirate 24/7
Is limited supply hampering BlackBerry Z10 sales in the UAE?
By Joseph George
Published Thursday, February 21, 2013
Axiom Telecom, BlackBerry�s official resellers in the UAE, had earlier announced that the new BlackBerry Z10 is accounting for almost 60 per cent of all handset sales across its UAE stores since being available on February 10. "The UAE�s response to the Z10 has been truly remarkable, and we are set for huge, record-breaking sales,� said Faisal Al Bannai, CEO, Axiom Telecom
eMax, another UAE electronics retailer, too said BlackBerry Z10 stocks continue to remain thin. �We still have stocks, but they are limited. Ever since BlackBerry launched its Z10, it has been the No. 1 seller. We still have Samsungs and iPhones selling but they have been pushed to No. 2 and 3 spots,� said another sales staff.02-24-13 02:12 AMLike 0 -
There's some interesting numbers in this post as well for people to debate/shread .)
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...pper37-775303/!Last edited by Dapper37; 02-24-13 at 06:42 AM.
sonbuster likes this.02-24-13 06:04 AMLike 1 - Yes....another poster was touting this in another thread, but suddenly went silent when I asked for a source. I knew about SAP beta, and they've always been big supporters of RIM, but I haven't heard anything about them buying 16,000 BB's, and they support other devices.
It's becoming another CB misinformation item.
BlackBerry 10 Looking Good, Says SAP CIO - CIO.comzyben likes this.02-24-13 06:10 AMLike 1 - Check the post again buddy, no one went silent but you! This is the source! That's how I quoted it! I know you think your fairly adept at convicing people with your long winded posts but like I said already. Your arguments lack substance!
BlackBerry 10 Looking Good, Says SAP CIO - CIO.com02-24-13 06:56 AMLike 0 - If you read the companies last earnings report it says that BBRY expects "very little revenue" from BB10 for this quarter. Notice they say revenue and not earnings. This has me worried that the expectations of millions sold thus far are way too high. I think BBRY knew since last earnings report that this was going to be a staggered roll out. Starting in the countries where they have the greatest support.backfire101 likes this.02-24-13 07:23 AMLike 1
- Most of the Z10's purchased right now are going to be by consumers, rather than corporate. Not a lot of companies have fully upgraded to BES10, and so companies are not rolling out BB10 devices this quickly. For old BB's, it was easier for companies to buy large batches of new ones because it's only an update to BES and the phone can run fine.
Frankly, in my view, the Z10 doesn't NEED to sell like iPhones, S3's, etc. It's a gen one product. BB just needs to stabilize the business and hope the drop in sales of legacy BB phones aren't too quick (unlike symbian). The way BB has carved up the market is actually pretty good. Rather than cannibalize legacy OS7 phones, BB10 is being pitched as high end phones that have different feature sets than old OS 7 phones (BIS, compression, etc.). Hopefully BB can balance the two OS' properly, unlike Nokia, which is being destroyed by slow sales in WP8 and collapsing sales for Symbian.
The problem they have with legacy models is not so much the software but rather the hardware. They don't have great NEW low end hardware . BB still needs competitive hardware for their BB7 markets and I am not sure they have it for India, Nigeria and Indonesia. BB needs China . I don't see a viable China strategy.02-24-13 10:02 AMLike 0 - Im no KM but have a look at my signature. It's comforting math to me
There's some interesting numbers in this post as well for people to debate/shread .)
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...pper37-775303/!02-24-13 10:05 AMLike 0 - Bull predicion by Indian tech show, Launch Monday morning 6am PST live by one of top hottest bollywood actor, he received all top awards this year..Mumbai population alone 18 millions, 5 big cities alone more than 100 million population. Millions of high income users that include politicians, enterprises, actors, high tech companies such as TATA, Wipro, tech support centres, progammers..
Is the BlackBerry comeback already on? : NDTV Gadgets
whisper un-confirmed pre-order number is 50k,
Remember all Z10 left the BB warehouse considered sold even if they have not made to consumers..02-24-13 11:28 AMLike 0 - india is FAR larger then canada, and has a very business-oriented mentality that plays to the strengths and reputation of blackberry. It would not surprise me to see indian preorder numbers 2-3X higher than canadian, particularly as they are mid-way in the rollout order and demand will be pent-up02-24-13 02:34 PMLike 0
- Follow up from an old post:
StatCounter Global Stats - Browser, OS, Search Engine including Mobile Market Share
Stats counter showing a definite uptick for BB in Canada and UK of 5 and 4% respectively in mobile OS use.02-24-13 05:07 PMLike 0 - Your right but this was backed up by an SAP comment at the Europe Jam I believe it was! Widely tweeted back then, the statement included they will incorporate BES10 after the successful trail they had gone through. Thats all the was ever stated.
Last edited by Dapper37; 02-24-13 at 07:34 PM.
project_x likes this.02-24-13 07:09 PMLike 1 - Follow up from an old post:
StatCounter Global Stats - Browser, OS, Search Engine including Mobile Market Share
Stats counter showing a definite uptick for BB in Canada and UK of 5 and 4% respectively in mobile OS use.Bugmapper likes this.02-24-13 07:48 PMLike 1
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