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  1. cbvinh's Avatar
    Stock analysis video that actually shows the Q10, Z10 and Z30 (though some older BB's too)...

    Back in BlackBerry - Video - Investing
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    01-21-14 11:52 AM
  2. GTiLeo's Avatar
    the lows should have never been there in the first place
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    01-21-14 12:05 PM
  3. cbvinh's Avatar
    the lows should have never been there in the first place
    We're about back to where the stock was at when the whole "up for sale" fiasco began...
    01-21-14 12:37 PM
  4. anon1727506's Avatar
    We're about back to where the stock was at when the whole "up for sale" fiasco began...

    The "up for sale" was a fiasco, but the failure to launch of BB10 is what started it... other than some new faces and "talk", has anything changed?
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    01-21-14 12:57 PM
  5. sleepngbear's Avatar
    Other than reorganizing the company and bringing in a whole new management team, no, nothing's changed.
    01-21-14 01:07 PM
  6. shiftymagoo's Avatar
    Other than doing the seemingly impossible in turning the tide of perception about BlackBerry and shaking off most of the leprosy sentiment.

    No nothing has changed!

    Unless of course you consider having an actual plan, making actual decisions, new partnerships with manufacturers, management changes, continued progression in BB10 and Android integration. All of this within a few short months. Nope! Same old same old!

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    01-21-14 01:27 PM
  7. ibpluto's Avatar
    Other than doing the seemingly impossible in turning the tide of perception about BlackBerry and shaking off most of the leprosy sentiment.

    No nothing has changed!

    Unless of course you consider having an actual plan, making actual decisions, new partnerships with manufacturers, management changes, continued progression in BB10 and Android integration. All of this within a few short months. Nope! Same old same old!

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    ^This

    A couple months back, I said the only thing hurting BlackBerry is the perception....not the OS, not the enterprise tech, not the device designs ....the perception.

    Funny how I see more and more stock footage of BB10 devices in action and BB10 devices for pictures in articles as well. Maybe the media finally got tired of piling on. Even the last couple articles from BGR were positive......causing me to nearly **** my pants

    Also to consider, if the annoucements of companies adopting BES10 keeps coming at the current rate, boy are we in for a fun ride!
    01-21-14 01:46 PM
  8. nelsonpml's Avatar
    I wished they stopped using videos of BlackBerry devices from 6 or 7 years ago.
    C'mon CNN, a silver 8830 World Edition running OS4.5?

    CNN Money: "Back in BlackBerry"-img_20140121_142104.png

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    01-21-14 02:21 PM
  9. crackberry_geek's Avatar
    Just goes to show what even a minimal amount of exposure will do.

    To BlackBerry marketing - SHAME on you for not providing ANY of this exposure eons ago!

    Posted with Z10 via CB10
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    01-21-14 02:36 PM
  10. lnichols's Avatar
    Other than reorganizing the company and bringing in a whole new management team twice in less than two years, no, nothing's changed.
    Fixed it for you. Just like they botched BB10 by focusing on AIR at the start and had to switch to Cascades, they made a mistake with selecting Heins and his merry band of rejects who were more interested in selling the company than fixing it. Both of these set the company way back.

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    01-21-14 02:39 PM
  11. AVPTI's Avatar
    Do you know who also brought in new management and talked up BlackBerry and how great the future will be?

    Right now, it's all talk. Sure Chen has set more realistic goals, but he's got nothing to back anything up. Yet.
    01-21-14 02:41 PM
  12. jojo beaconsfield's Avatar
    Just goes to show what even a minimal amount of exposure will do.

    To BlackBerry marketing - SHAME on you for not providing ANY of this exposure eons ago!

    Posted with Z10 via CB10
    They didn't have a clue on how to launch the new OS and the Z10,I remember how Bo Boo talked about how they came up with the Z for the10,sitting around a table and low and behold,ZORO,wow!! if the street wasn't impressed with those words then what else could you ask for? Waist of time.
    01-21-14 02:49 PM
  13. Mo Cat's Avatar
    At least i got my Q10 last year.
    01-21-14 02:55 PM
  14. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    As BBRY makes good moves, the press will report good stuff. It earned the recent coverage, IMHO.
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    01-21-14 03:04 PM
  15. cherolis's Avatar
    Do you know who also brought in new management and talked up BlackBerry and how great the future will be?

    Right now, it's all talk. Sure Chen has set more realistic goals, but he's got nothing to back anything up. Yet.

    The deal with Foxconn isn't all talk.

    The only reason you think its all talk.. is because you don't understand what's going on.
    01-21-14 03:08 PM
  16. GTiLeo's Avatar
    The "up for sale" was a fiasco, but the failure to launch of BB10 is what started it... other than some new faces and "talk", has anything changed?
    stop talking please, BlackBerry's main issue was their hardware was losing money, the fact that their low end devices are beign manufactured by someone else and they are focusing more on services and software means losses from hardware will be much lower then they are now, write downs will be less and margines will increase since QNX systems is pretty much all margine and BES is pretty high.

    what has changed is that BlackBerry shrunk their operating expenses bye more then half by cutting back on the hardware and partnering with foxconn
    01-21-14 03:14 PM
  17. lnichols's Avatar
    stop talking please, BlackBerry's main issue was their hardware was losing money, the fact that their low end devices are beign manufactured by someone else and they are focusing more on services and software means losses from hardware will be much lower then they are now, write downs will be less and margines will increase since QNX systems is pretty much all margine and BES is pretty high.

    what has changed is that BlackBerry shrunk their operating expenses bye more then half by cutting back on the hardware and partnering with foxconn
    BlackBerry has many issues. They can't hit their own deadlines. They have fractured the app ecosystem with the 720 X 720 screen on the Q10 and Q5. Hardware is overpriced when compared to device with comparable or better internals and specs, leading to poor sales and write offs. The brand name BlackBerry is severely tarnished. Foxconn isn't going to be a magic wand that fixes everything, it's just going to put cheap BB10 phones in markets where the BlackBerry brand isn't completely in the gutter. IMO BlackBerry's main issue is that the name BlackBerry is associated with slow, antiquated BB10 devices and BlackBerry doesn't have the will and/or resources to address this.

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    01-21-14 03:27 PM
  18. NotGoodIMO's Avatar
    I don't know why but I think that this whole turn around of image about Blackberry has something to do with the change in management. John Chen and his team are doing a good job of reaching out to important customers and things are already looking better. Most of the problem with Blackberry is about perception at this point and as soon as media stops bashing and starts saying some positive things about Blackberry then people will also start taking a second look at Blackberry. US Govt, Pentagon contract is more symbolic than anything else but it will have a big impact on Blackberry's turnaround.
    01-21-14 03:36 PM
  19. FFR's Avatar
    BlackBerry has many issues. They can't hit their own deadlines. They have fractured the app ecosystem with the 720 X 720 screen on the Q10 and Q5. Hardware is overpriced when compared to device with comparable or better internals and specs, leading to poor sales and write offs. The brand name BlackBerry is severely tarnished. Foxconn isn't going to be a magic wand that fixes everything, it's just going to put cheap BB10 phones in markets where the BlackBerry brand isn't completely in the gutter. IMO BlackBerry's main issue is that the name BlackBerry is associated with slow, antiquated BB10 devices and BlackBerry doesn't have the will and/or resources to address this.

    Posted via CB10
    Quite an astute observation.
    01-21-14 03:38 PM
  20. GTiLeo's Avatar
    BlackBerry has many issues. They can't hit their own deadlines. They have fractured the app ecosystem with the 720 X 720 screen on the Q10 and Q5. Hardware is overpriced when compared to device with comparable or better internals and specs, leading to poor sales and write offs. The brand name BlackBerry is severely tarnished. Foxconn isn't going to be a magic wand that fixes everything, it's just going to put cheap BB10 phones in markets where the BlackBerry brand isn't completely in the gutter. IMO BlackBerry's main issue is that the name BlackBerry is associated with slow, antiquated BB10 devices and BlackBerry doesn't have the will and/or resources to address this.

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    you are miss understanding what i am saying smart guy. their main goal right now is not to increase sales its to stablize the company so it has a chance to grow again, the current stock price is a gross undervalue of the company if it is sable and at break even, even still its undervalues as the book value of the company is more then the market cap. their corperate structrue and profits have nothign to do with their fractured eco system when it comes down to an enterprise and software company its only an issue for developers trying to build apps for the consumer which as of right now BlackBerry isn't making a push on.

    cut the bleeding is the reasons why investors are thinking twice about BlackBerry the thinking of BlackBerry being liquidized.

    its time for you people to stop thinking its all about their hardware because at this point it really isn't. BES brings in a few billion a year in revenues and without hardware BlackBerry's operating costs are less then a billion a year. cut hardware out and BlackBerry is a profitable company making money, soemthign alot of you people can get through your thick sculls
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    01-21-14 03:41 PM
  21. lang007's Avatar
    Stocks are moving up and we still can not get AT&T to sell the Z30
    01-21-14 03:48 PM
  22. BergerKing's Avatar
    the lows should have never been there in the first place
    Lows come with a lack of confidence, and a fair portion of the last year was all about lack of confidence.
    01-21-14 03:54 PM
  23. lnichols's Avatar
    you are miss understanding what i am saying smart guy. their main goal right now is not to increase sales its to stablize the company so it has a chance to grow again, the current stock price is a gross undervalue of the company if it is sable and at break even, even still its undervalues as the book value of the company is more then the market cap. their corperate structrue and profits have nothign to do with their fractured eco system when it comes down to an enterprise and software company its only an issue for developers trying to build apps for the consumer which as of right now BlackBerry isn't making a push on.

    cut the bleeding is the reasons why investors are thinking twice about BlackBerry the thinking of BlackBerry being liquidized.

    its time for you people to stop thinking its all about their hardware because at this point it really isn't. BES brings in a few billion a year in revenues and without hardware BlackBerry's operating costs are less then a billion a year. cut hardware out and BlackBerry is a profitable company making money, soemthign alot of you people can get through your thick sculls
    You brought up hardware in the post I quoted. Raising the stock price brings nothing to the company unless they were to release more stock on the market from a financial perspective. It might help check a single box on some corporate or government evaluation for MDM or devices, but it won't change the end users negative perception of the name BlackBerry. Raising the stock price will just help Prem recover his investment in the company and allow him to cash out sooner. IMO Heins was focused more on Prem's benefit and his own big cashout than the company, and if stock price is Chen's biggest concern, then it would appear Chen is serving Prem and not the best Interest of the company. I don't think the stock is Chen's main focus, and it shouldn't be.

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    01-21-14 04:25 PM
  24. FSeverino's Avatar
    ^This

    A couple months back, I said the only thing hurting BlackBerry is the perception....not the OS, not the enterprise tech, not the device designs ....the perception.

    Funny how I see more and more stock footage of BB10 devices in action and BB10 devices for pictures in articles as well. Maybe the media finally got tired of piling on. Even the last couple articles from BGR were positive......causing me to nearly **** my pants

    Also to consider, if the annoucements of companies adopting BES10 keeps coming at the current rate, boy are we in for a fun ride!
    ^THIS.

    I remember watching 'bb10' news segments with a static picture of the Z10, the whole time talking about the q10. Then during the holidays how bb10 was such a bust, and constant video of people using bold and curves. The media either had no idea what bb10 devices were, or didn't give a s4!t... at least that is changing.

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    01-21-14 05:42 PM
  25. sixpacker's Avatar
    you are miss understanding what i am saying smart guy. their main goal right now is not to increase sales its to stablize the company so it has a chance to grow again, the current stock price is a gross undervalue of the company if it is sable and at break even, even still its undervalues as the book value of the company is more then the market cap. their corperate structrue and profits have nothign to do with their fractured eco system when it comes down to an enterprise and software company its only an issue for developers trying to build apps for the consumer which as of right now BlackBerry isn't making a push on.

    cut the bleeding is the reasons why investors are thinking twice about BlackBerry the thinking of BlackBerry being liquidized.

    its time for you people to stop thinking its all about their hardware because at this point it really isn't. BES brings in a few billion a year in revenues and without hardware BlackBerry's operating costs are less then a billion a year. cut hardware out and BlackBerry is a profitable company making money, soemthign alot of you people can get through your thick sculls
    Yeah right, the master plan is not to increase sales. Indeed cunning.

    The BES income is built primarily on BlackBerry hardware, so the hardware is key.

    Of course the reorg matters, as does cutting the cash burn - but at the end of the day not promoting, and trying to sell your flagship device is just plain dumb.

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    01-21-14 06:00 PM
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