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  1. DaSchwantz's Avatar
    Nokia has some of the highest quality patents in the mobile market... which is why they didn't sell them to Microsoft. But Microsoft is paying them about $2.2 Billion to license those patents for ten years.... BlackBerry is also paying them too for use of some of their patents. Microsoft didn't buy Nokia, they bought just the hardware division. Which is what some want BlackBerry to do... sell off one or more of their divisions in order to raise cash and stock value...
    @scalemaster That also means that MSFT didn't really buy 'Nokia' did they? BlackBerry also has a ton of valuable patents, which means your comparison to the MSFT deal is really only relevant to BlackBerry's handset business. Also, we now know that at least $300m of convertibles have been converted into shares (likely more). Worst of all, you seem to imply that Fairfax is somehow receiving (illegal) payments from BlackBerry and they are being booked as 'purchase obligations'. Please present your evidence for such serious allegations. As you well know, but fail to mention, those purchase obligations (short of illegal behaviour) actually represent future phones at cost, and cannot be booked as an asset until they are hard inventory. You also fail to mention hundreds of millions of r and d credits that are about to get booked, all the remaining non cash assets (real estate, accounts receivables, etc. etc.), but feel compelled to describe purchase obligation liabilities as if they should be ex'd from cash before they actually are paid out. A future phone is future cash. An accounts receivable is future cash. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you try.

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    03-13-15 07:09 PM
  2. DaSchwantz's Avatar
    So nine times revenues.... which are falling at a pretty consistent rate? Sure sound like something any board would approve.
    Please address the balance sheet issues I have raised first, and then we can address the current revenue situation. If you actually want to have a fact-based discussion, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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    03-13-15 07:20 PM
  3. masterful's Avatar
    @saving BlackBerry aka David..go away

    #BBFactCheck
    03-15-15 10:10 AM
  4. nt300's Avatar
    This is complete nonsense. Pretending how to know what dilution is and what the company cannot do to succeed.
    Nonsense, don't click on the useless link.

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    03-15-15 04:09 PM
  5. nt300's Avatar
    So nine times revenues.... which are falling at a pretty consistent rate? Sure sound like something any board would approve.
    I advise you look up restructuring and how it works. You will quickly have a different opinion on the matter.

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    03-15-15 04:13 PM
  6. nt300's Avatar
    700 million iPhones sold means tremendous success in consumer, but at what point does that market get saturated? Apple has a keen eye on enterprise.
    iPhones are a joke In the Enterprise. NO Apple products are allowed in sensitive corporate and government meetings.
    Apple's been losing World Wide Market share year over year. Despite there sales of the bendy iPhone 6. People are slowly catching onto the crap they sell ppl.

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    03-15-15 04:16 PM
  7. anon1727506's Avatar
    iPhones are a joke In the Enterprise. NO Apple products are allowed in sensitive corporate and government meetings.
    Apple's been losing World Wide Market share year over year. Despite there sales of the bendy iPhone 6. People are slowly catching onto the crap they sell ppl.

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    You don't understand Marketshare and Sales aren't the same thing... Yes Apple is losing marketshare to Android as there are more and more people buying smartphones and more of them are choosing Android - in many cases very cheap Androids. But Apple is still selling more and more devices every quarter, and in many of the key markets, they are actually gaining back marketshare from Google. You might not like Apple and their devices, but their users are much happier and more "faithful" then any other mobile brand right now. Which is why Apple owns the smartphone market when it comes to PROFITS.

    As for sensitive corporate and government meeting... BlackBerry does still own this market. And I don't see Apple doing much yet to even try to break into this small little security "niche". But KNOX, Blackphone, Boeing... they all seem to be giving BlackBerry a run for their money.

    I think what Chen needs to do is either get out of hardware, or start selling $1200 Secursmart BlackBerries. Even now his focus is divided and you aren't going to make money in this game selling 2 year old hardware at discounted prices.
    03-16-15 07:34 AM
  8. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Apple makes a killing selling four year old technology....just sayin.

    Classically Posted.
    03-16-15 07:49 AM
  9. Elephant_Canyon's Avatar
    Apple makes a killing selling four year old technology....just sayin.
    Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
    03-16-15 08:27 AM
  10. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
    Ditto.

    Classically Posted.
    03-16-15 09:15 AM
  11. birdman_38's Avatar
    Apple makes a killing selling four year old technology....just sayin.
    Please provide a specific example.
    03-16-15 10:07 AM
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