1. dalinxz's Avatar
    Not sure what Chen is thinking, but his silence is devastating any brand awareness of BlackBerry, the company reeks of old management, biggest lack of transparency that has been seen. Extremely disappointed, this is exemplified by the active users on CB. Very disappointing, the only way he's been having semi descent results has been through cutting and sizing down the organization. It's clear he's been preparing BlackBerry for sale.

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    08-06-15 09:08 AM
  2. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    They've been making noise, but not in the areas you probably care about or pay attention to (MDM, security consulting, healthcare device networking).

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    08-06-15 09:13 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    They've been making noise, but not in the areas you probably care about or pay attention to (MDM, security consulting, healthcare device networking).

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    I don't think some here are ever going to admit to themselves that BlackBerry.... is no longer BlackBerry.
    08-06-15 09:21 AM
  4. eg24hrs's Avatar
    So long as I can go online and buy a new BlackBerry, BlackBerry is still BlackBerry. Those that disagree, probably agree with everything else Madison Avenue sells them.

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    08-06-15 06:12 PM
  5. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    So long as I can go online and buy a new BlackBerry, BlackBerry is still BlackBerry. Those that disagree, probably agree with everything else Madison Avenue sells them.

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    Some old timers don't think BB10 with Android was a true BlackBerry, especially not the Q10 and it's missing tool-belt and keyed shortcuts.

    Some now don't see a "possible" future where a full Android device will be a true BlackBerry, especially now that BlackBerry is no longer an equipment manufacture or even designer...

    Some don't think that a future where you go buy a HTC or Samsung device and then have to install some apps called the BlackBerry Experience will be a BlackBerry.


    But yeah as long as a company called BlackBerry is selling some sort of device or software that has the name BlackBerry in it... I guess you'll be ok.
    mset likes this.
    08-07-15 09:51 AM
  6. jojo beaconsfield's Avatar
    BBRY Stock Quote - BlackBerry Ltd. Stock Price Today (BBRY:NASDAQ) - MarketWatch
    a funny thing happened just recently,check out the revenue per employee in the link,it was $439,000 last time I checked a few weeks ago now it says N/A,I don't think this is a good sign and hope they get it back,the less info we get about BB is not a good thing,lol
    if you're on a cell phone scroll down to the bottom and click ..see full site it's there
    08-07-15 10:03 AM
  7. dalinxz's Avatar
    Some old timers don't think BB10 with Android was a true BlackBerry, especially not the Q10 and it's missing tool-belt and keyed shortcuts.

    Some now don't see a "possible" future where a full Android device will be a true BlackBerry, especially now that BlackBerry is no longer an equipment manufacture or even designer...

    Some don't think that a future where you go buy a HTC or Samsung device and then have to install some apps called the BlackBerry Experience will be a BlackBerry.


    But yeah as long as a company called BlackBerry is selling some sort of device or software that has the name BlackBerry in it... I guess you'll be ok.
    Have you looked at your post history, who's paying you to defend a company that doesn't even defend itself?

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    08-07-15 10:09 AM
  8. conite's Avatar
    Not sure what Chen is thinking, but his silence is devastating any brand awareness of BlackBerry, the company reeks of old management, biggest lack of transparency that has been seen. Extremely disappointed, this is exemplified by the active users on CB. Very disappointing, the only way he's been having semi descent results has been through cutting and sizing down the organization. It's clear he's been preparing BlackBerry for sale.

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    BlackBerry no longer exists in the space you are used to seeing them.

    They are hardly silent, and the significant service revenue gains are a testament to that.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    08-07-15 10:17 AM
  9. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    BlackBerry no longer exists in the space you are used to seeing them.

    They are hardly silent, and the significant service revenue gains are a testament to that.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    Shoot my sarcasm indicator is acting up again.... you were just trying to prove your point about their silence by pointing out that fact that even in their now key sector "Services" that they are still seeing a loss each quarter. So they really aren't getting their "message" out to end users.

    Q4 2013 - Service Revenues were $972 Million
    Q4 2014 - Service Revenues were $546 Million
    Q4 2015 - Service Revenues were $310 Million
    Q1 2016 - Service Revenues were $250 Million

    I know BIS is one reason for the decline... but with about 30% of the BBOS users still active from the Q4 2014 levels, how much lower will Service Revenues fall due to BIS? I think it's kinda hard to say that all $700 Million of that loss was just BIS related...
    08-07-15 10:45 AM
  10. conite's Avatar
    Shoot my sarcasm indicator is acting up again.... you were just trying to prove your point about their silence by pointing out that fact that even in their now key sector "Services" that they are still seeing a loss each quarter. So they really aren't getting their "message" out to end users.

    Q4 2013 - Service Revenues were $972 Million
    Q4 2014 - Service Revenues were $546 Million
    Q4 2015 - Service Revenues were $310 Million
    Q1 2016 - Service Revenues were $250 Million

    I know BIS is one reason for the decline... but with about 30% of the BBOS users still active from the Q4 2014 levels, how much lower will Service Revenues fall due to BIS? I think it's kinda hard to say that all $700 Million of that loss was just BIS related...
    I believe I used the wrong terminology. I think it's called "software and technology licensing". This is the major growth area that they are concentrating on.

    "For the entire fiscal year, which ends in February 2016, Chen predicted that software revenues could hit $500 million, not including another $100 million from BlackBerry Messenger."

    Last quarter: $137 million in revenue came from software and licensing agreements; up 150% from the same quarter last year.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    08-07-15 10:50 AM
  11. imcurved's Avatar
    Healthcare is one of the areas they have been focusing.

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    08-07-15 11:26 AM
  12. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I believe I used the wrong terminology. I think it's called "software and technology licensing". This is the major growth area that they are concentrating on.

    "For the entire fiscal year, which ends in February 2016, Chen predicted that software revenues could hit $500 million, not including another $100 million from BlackBerry Messenger."

    Last quarter: $137 million in revenue came from software and licensing agreements; up 150% from the same quarter last year.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
    Yes they did see growth in this newly titled area.

    Big reason was CISCO, they had wanted a particular block of the Nortel patents that Rockstar had bought. BlackBerry ended up with those patents when Rockstar sold the bigger portion and divided up the rest. I'm sure Chen would like to do more licensing... it just a matter of do they have what someone else wants or was this a one time deal? I think it is great that Chen was able to capitalize on something that Thor had put into place and hopefully their partnership is more that CISCO just a licensing deal.

    It doesn't matter if growth comes from Hardware, Services or the newly retitled Software and Technology Licensing.... they just need revenue to move in the opposite direction that it has been moving in. They have to start converting some of that potential growth into real growth to overcome the sectors that will continue to decline.
    08-07-15 12:15 PM
  13. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Have you looked at your post history, who's paying you to defend a company that doesn't even defend itself?

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    LOL...

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    08-07-15 08:39 PM
  14. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    FYI...I just purchased the Silver Edition BlackBerry Passport...designed by BlackBerry, utilising BlackBerry IP, and the profits help sustain BlackBerry.
    So...yes BlackBerry is still here.

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    08-07-15 08:42 PM
  15. conite's Avatar
    FYI...I just purchased the Silver Edition BlackBerry Passport...designed by BlackBerry, utilising BlackBerry IP, and the profits help sustain BlackBerry.
    So...yes BlackBerry is still here.

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    Me too!

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.2339
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    08-07-15 08:43 PM
  16. anon(1308230)'s Avatar
    I work in (Canadian) health care, and it is an extremely tough space to gain footing in terms of software. At the time of this post, there is no unified health care software linking everyone together. Even with the widespread conversion of paper charts to electronic medical records, every office uses something different, which leaves huge gaps in patient care.

    The best overall picture I can paint is this: say that you are a widowed 70 year old male with cancer living in Toronto. You have a family doctor and you have an oncologist at the hospital. You decide to go to your cottage in Muskoka for the weekend. While you are there, you suffer a stroke while out on the lake. Strangers find you, and you are taken to a local hospital. Upon admission, your stroke has rendered you unable to speak. The emergency doctors have no idea you are currently undergoing radiation and have special needs. They don't know what meds you're on.

    The hospital in Muskoka is able to determine who you are and contact next of kin. They find out who your family doctor is, and fax a copy of your chart to them.

    You miss your next oncology appointment because you are in the hospital for 3 months. But your oncologist doesn't know that because he didn't get a copy of your hospital chart, and your family doctor assumed you were being followed regularly by oncology because you are receiving cancer treatment.

    What is so desperately needed is ONE system that connects everyone- so that when you are admitted to hospital, the latest bloodwork your family doctor ordered is available to the hospital staff, or the CT scan your specialist ordered is viewable by all your doctors, immediately. This unified system must be compatible with the main Electronic Medical Charting Systems that are currently employed, because switching to a new format would be far too time consuming and costly. If Blackberry can't hack that, they won't go overly far in health care.

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    Last edited by bbstoof; 08-07-15 at 09:12 PM.
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    08-07-15 09:02 PM
  17. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    I work in (Canadian) health care, and it is an extremely tough space to gain footing in terms of software. At the time of this post, there is no unified health care software linking everyone together. Even with the widespread conversion of paper charts to electronic medical records, every office uses something different, which leaves huge gaps in patient care.

    If Blackberry can't hack that, they won't go overly far in health care.

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    I don't think BlackBerry is trying to solve that riddle...what they are doing is investing in a new company called NantHealth that is doing something similar but leaning more to the "big data" model for research purposes...though parts of your scenario are addressed.
    Also, BlackBerry is working to secure that pipeline of information your wanting to see so that's a positive.

    Kinda silly that in this day and age something as basic as one patient one chart isn't a reality yet. Let's hope (for everyone's sake) it's not to far away.




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    08-07-15 09:24 PM
  18. Carjackd's Avatar
    I work in (Canadian) health care, and it is an extremely tough space to gain footing in terms of software. At the time of this post, there is no unified health care software linking everyone together. Even with the widespread conversion of paper charts to electronic medical records, every office uses something different, which leaves huge gaps in patient care.

    The best overall picture I can paint is this: say that you are a widowed 70 year old male with cancer living in Toronto. You have a family doctor and you have an oncologist at the hospital. You decide to go to your cottage in Muskoka for the weekend. While you are there, you suffer a stroke while out on the lake. Strangers find you, and you are taken to a local hospital. Upon admission, your stroke has rendered you unable to speak. The emergency doctors have no idea you are currently undergoing radiation and have special needs. They don't know what meds you're on.

    The hospital in Muskoka is able to determine who you are and contact next of kin. They find out who your family doctor is, and fax a copy of your chart to them.

    You miss your next oncology appointment because you are in the hospital for 3 months. But your oncologist doesn't know that because he didn't get a copy of your hospital chart, and your family doctor assumed you were being followed regularly by oncology because you are receiving cancer treatment.

    What is so desperately needed is ONE system that connects everyone- so that when you are admitted to hospital, the latest bloodwork your family doctor ordered is available to the hospital staff, or the CT scan your specialist ordered is viewable by all your doctors, immediately. This unified system must be compatible with the main Electronic Medical Charting Systems that are currently employed, because switching to a new format would be far too time consuming and costly. If Blackberry can't hack that, they won't go overly far in health care.

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    Come on nobody has a stroke in Muskoka...there is no stress there. Not to mention who would know...."What happens in Muskoka....stays in Muskoka."
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    08-07-15 09:31 PM
  19. anon(1308230)'s Avatar
    Come on nobody has a stroke in Muskoka...there is no stress there. Not to mention who would know...."What happens in Muskoka....stays in Muskoka."
    Well that's why the guy in my story was widowed- he buried his wife up there and nobody knew

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    08-08-15 01:37 AM
  20. nhanken's Avatar
    This is why we have to blame the Ontario health care for lagging behind in terms of technology in the healthcare industry to provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. In Alberta, there is a system that keeps track of all the medications that you've been on and that includes OTC products like Tylenol #1 and even Gravol. Once a person gets admitted to the hospital or any other health facilities, the staff could pull up all your medical history to see your current and past medications. So if you think that you just bought one bottle of Tylenol #1 a few minutes ago from one local pharmacy and trying to buy another from somewhere else without being noticed, then good luck! Pharmacies also have an account to log on and check your medical history. All this technology has already been there in Alberta before 2007 but I'm not sure how things have progressed since I've moved back to Toronto.

    I work in (Canadian) health care, and it is an extremely tough space to gain footing in terms of software. At the time of this post, there is no unified health care software linking everyone together. Even with the widespread conversion of paper charts to electronic medical records, every office uses something different, which leaves huge gaps in patient care.

    The best overall picture I can paint is this: say that you are a widowed 70 year old male with cancer living in Toronto. You have a family doctor and you have an oncologist at the hospital. You decide to go to your cottage in Muskoka for the weekend. While you are there, you suffer a stroke while out on the lake. Strangers find you, and you are taken to a local hospital. Upon admission, your stroke has rendered you unable to speak. The emergency doctors have no idea you are currently undergoing radiation and have special needs. They don't know what meds you're on.

    The hospital in Muskoka is able to determine who you are and contact next of kin. They find out who your family doctor is, and fax a copy of your chart to them.

    You miss your next oncology appointment because you are in the hospital for 3 months. But your oncologist doesn't know that because he didn't get a copy of your hospital chart, and your family doctor assumed you were being followed regularly by oncology because you are receiving cancer treatment.

    What is so desperately needed is ONE system that connects everyone- so that when you are admitted to hospital, the latest bloodwork your family doctor ordered is available to the hospital staff, or the CT scan your specialist ordered is viewable by all your doctors, immediately. This unified system must be compatible with the main Electronic Medical Charting Systems that are currently employed, because switching to a new format would be far too time consuming and costly. If Blackberry can't hack that, they won't go overly far in health care.

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    To BB or not to BBBBBB...?
    08-08-15 07:27 AM
  21. BACK-2-BLACK's Avatar
    I work in (Canadian) health care, and it is an extremely tough space to gain footing in terms of software. At the time of this post, there is no unified health care software linking everyone together. Even with the widespread conversion of paper charts to electronic medical records, every office uses something different, which leaves huge gaps in patient care.

    The best overall picture I can paint is this: say that you are a widowed 70 year old male with cancer living in Toronto. You have a family doctor and you have an oncologist at the hospital. You decide to go to your cottage in Muskoka for the weekend. While you are there, you suffer a stroke while out on the lake. Strangers find you, and you are taken to a local hospital. Upon admission, your stroke has rendered you unable to speak. The emergency doctors have no idea you are currently undergoing radiation and have special needs. They don't know what meds you're on.

    The hospital in Muskoka is able to determine who you are and contact next of kin. They find out who your family doctor is, and fax a copy of your chart to them.

    You miss your next oncology appointment because you are in the hospital for 3 months. But your oncologist doesn't know that because he didn't get a copy of your hospital chart, and your family doctor assumed you were being followed regularly by oncology because you are receiving cancer treatment.

    What is so desperately needed is ONE system that connects everyone- so that when you are admitted to hospital, the latest bloodwork your family doctor ordered is available to the hospital staff, or the CT scan your specialist ordered is viewable by all your doctors, immediately. This unified system must be compatible with the main Electronic Medical Charting Systems that are currently employed, because switching to a new format would be far too time consuming and costly. If Blackberry can't hack that, they won't go overly far in health care.

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    You mean like the new OS created from NantHealth? ...

    cOS (Clinical Operating System)
    08-09-15 10:41 PM
  22. anon(1308230)'s Avatar
    You mean like the new OS created from NantHealth? ...

    cOS (Clinical Operating System)
    Never heard of it, will have to do some reading before I can answer that :-)

    There has been a new bridging system one of the government branches in Ontario (LHIN) has put out that is starting to close the gap, as it is compatible with all existing EMR systems.

    sent from my BlackBerry using Tapatalk
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    08-11-15 08:36 PM

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