[rarsen]

Forces outside of companies management, affecting stock prices. From the same genius who personally managed to loose billions, and not pay his taxes for it.

Stock Market Drop Extends to Fourth Day as U.S. Prepares to Raise China Tariffs
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/b...ype=Multimedia

[bbjdog]

@bbjdog

If you have a CEO who is true to his word,no tricks, then your halfway there, if he can deliver, that's the other half, the price will reflect.

Chen can be eliminated from the screening process based on last ER accounting trick alone.

You can debate all day long, the market won't worry about it, or the reasoning behind it, it's a miss with sprinkles on top. This is just one of many tricks Chen has played. he knows the market will see through it, he also knows shareholders will be bewildered before they understand it,

So what's in it for shareholders, ? Nothing. And that's why we're here.

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The reason you are here is not the same reason I am!!!!

Change of topic.

Morgan8 mate, I hope everything is fine with you and MRS Morgan!!!

It's funny how we find out who our allies and enemies are at time of battle.

I just want to THANK YOU for everything mate and all the best in life for you and your family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bacon Munchers]

I don't care about the stocks anymore, I still use my BBRY-stock profit bought rMBP15 daily. But I just wanted to prove that like does not equal anything. Especially on this board.

I wish you all well, and I hope you have better luck with other stock

...I'm personally killin' it with BlackBerry, but thanks for your well wishes.

Oh, and add another like to Captain M8 for helping make that happen.

[Bacon Munchers]

Wow! Good entry point this morning with this big dip.
With shares on loan being 1% and a very low bearish sentiment, there must be something else going on today; or is it a 'Sell in May and go away' thing perhaps?

Also Fairfax got smashed.
Anyone here have funds trusted to Prem et' al?

[EchoTango]

Wow! Good entry point this morning with this big dip.
With shares on loan being 1% and a very low bearish sentiment, there must be something else going on today; or is it a 'Sell in May and go away' thing perhaps?

Also Fairfax got smashed.
Anyone here have funds trusted to Prem et' al?

China trade deal (or lack of) is weighing on the markets this week.

[rarsen]

OT for those with interest in Privacy for weekend reading, noting that John Chen is among those that avoid indicating his phone location :

Companies are (still) selling your phone location data without consent
https://www.androidcentral.com/compa...plicit-consent
"When contacted by Motherboard, none of the carriers denied selling A-GPS data. Your location is worth about $300, according to an in-depth study by Motherboard. Used car salesmen can buy your live location for as little as $8.42. What they do with it is anyone's guess."

[FeitaInc]

I read the above sometimes caustic recent exchange with a sense of satisfaction and trepidation. I participate in this forum in order to receive wide and diverse perspectives regarding the stock we all love to hate. Part of the above exchange delivers on those objectives. My trepidation comes in when amongst the commentary someone elects to question another persons view and then both parties devolve into a back and forth exchange regarding such griping topics as; intelligence level, genetic lineage and species. Fun to watch but not informative.

I am always gratified to read the other views from the knowledgeable, interested and even the non-Mensa crowd. I find it all very valuable when mixed together to better inform my own perspectives. Flame wars on blogs are not new and might even be expected, but my preference is to encourage more participation not less and less participation is the typical outcome of this kind of behavior.

thanks for holding us to a higher standard. I´ll do better.

[dusdal]

https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/09/sm...north-america/

Overall not a great market to be in, as rightly predicted by Chen. TCL and Lenovo the standouts with steady growth (though from very small numbers to begin with).

Curious if any of this can be credited to the Key2/LE or if it is largely their cheaper Alcatel units.

[bbjdog]

Morgan mate, I need your insight on the market mate. I don't like how some twitter be happy person is dictating the market! Sorry I meant MRS MORGAN!!!!!!! Lol

[rarsen]

OT for general interest in Privacy and Fraud, remain careful out there:

Fight Child Identity Theft with 5 Key Steps
https://www.araglegal.com/individual...identity-theft
Since children don’t usually apply for a credit card, a loan, etc., they have a “clean slate” of credit history thieves can take advantage of. In a typical scenario, because parents really have no reason to check their child’s credit (as they have none yet!), the theft is usually not discovered until the child turns 18. That delay may leave the child with a slew of financial and legal issues to resolve, making it difficult to apply for financial aid for school, get a loan or establish credit.

RBC customer out of pocket after fraud: what you need to know if you e-transfer money
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...cid=spartandhp
"Banks and financial institutions have made it very easy to transfer money via email. Unfortunately, with convenience, comes lack of security." Bank officials told customers aren't protected if they use weak passwords when transferring funds online. That information is on the bank's website, but only if a customer reading RBC's "Security Guarantee" clicks on a few different links to get to a clause in the fine print of a section called "Security." "This idea of transferring money by email is much more risky than people realize,"

[Hazo]

Down almost 6% on no news...wtf!!!

[Seadog83]

Down almost 6% on no news...wtf!!!

6% on no news? We should be so lucky. I don't want to ruin the surprise, but if you look at Jan 2018 until Dec 2018, this is a mere blip compared to where it cratered ~60ish percent on no news.

I'm starting to think this is a bit of a cursed stock.

[kellyweng88]

I think a lot of this can be attributed to the continued uncertainty of the trade talks.

The market overall took a hammering today. Red all across

[Hazo]

I think a lot of this can be attributed to the continued uncertainty of the trade talks.

The market overall took a hammering today. Red all across

I'm sure it had an effect, but as Seadog said...it feels like BB is cursed.

[abwan11]

Cursed by Chens innovation.

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[Seadog83]

I think a lot of this can be attributed to the continued uncertainty of the trade talks.

The market overall took a hammering today. Red all across

...And BB, which has less that average exposure to China and tariffs, got hit twice as hard as the general market. Why?

You didn't hear all this clamoring about Chen when the stock was at $14, but surely most will agree that the company is on more solid footing than that point, yet for whatever reason the market doesn't reflect it. So are people attacking Chen's actions, or the price which he can't control?

I like to contrast it with FB as they're almost the antitheses of BB. Lots of misses on both rev and profit (and several minor beats less than BB showed), plagued by privacy concerns to the point of having to testify before congress, from numerous different countries and national level organizations potential fines several multiples of BBs entire market cap, general souring of the public towards their privacy games, accusations of rigging elections, and yet it's still within spitting distance of both it's all time and recent high, while BB is barely above half. Then the salt in the wound that today despite their WA subsidiary proclaiming a huge privacy breach, stock was up in the PM.

[EchoTango]

I like to contrast it with FB as they're almost the antitheses of BB. Lots of misses on both rev and profit (and several minor beats less than BB showed), plagued by privacy concerns to the point of having to testify before congress, from numerous different countries and national level organizations potential fines several multiples of BBs entire market cap, general souring of the public towards their privacy games, accusations of rigging elections, and yet it's still within spitting distance of both it's all time and recent high, while BB is barely above half. Then the salt in the wound that today despite their WA subsidiary proclaiming a huge privacy breach, stock was up in the PM.

This only serves to prove there is no God.

I've given up trying rationalize market moves and individual stocks. It's just so corrupt and fickle driven by "insider" information real and made up. My view is; the stock game is really all about trying to perceive where naked human greed will take the market and forget about logical trends and developments.

It truly is the biggest casino in the world !

[Chuck Finley69]

This only serves to prove there is no God.

I've given up trying rationalize market moves and individual stocks. It's just so corrupt and fickle driven by "insider" information real and made up. My view is; the stock game is really all about trying to perceive where naked human greed will take the market and forget about logical trends and developments.

It truly is the biggest casino in the world !

Been following the market for 35 years, since beginning of high school. Bought first shares 30 years ago when just turned 19 years old. Been licensed professional since 27 years ago to proudly open my first account for client.

Someone mentoring told me then, we buy and sell making logical trades but the money is made from people’s illogical emotions.

[Bacon Munchers]

...I'm starting to think this is a bit of a cursed stock.

Not cursed. Just frequency traded and manipulated heavily.

[Bacon Munchers]

Cursed by Chens innovation.

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Flip the coin:
Cursed by individuals with your sentiment.

[abwan11]

Flip the coin:
Cursed by individuals with your sentiment.

6 years of nothing, face the facts

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[abwan11]

Steve Jobs turned around apple in part due to a 50 million dollar loan from Gates and plenty of inovation. In contrast Chen has had billions slide through his fingers,all the time in the world and still nothing. Rock on Chen.

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[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Steve Jobs turned around apple in part due to a 50 million dollar loan from Gates and plenty of inovation. In contrast Chen has had billions slide through his fingers,all the time in the world and still nothing. Rock on Chen.

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I doubt there are many CEO's that would hold up to what Steve did with Apple...

I doubt there are many CEO's that wold hold up to what Chen did either.... reality is what he had to work with back in 2013 was worth a LOT less than most here taught at the time.

[abwan11]

I doubt there are many CEO's that would hold up to what Steve did with Apple...

I doubt there are many CEO's that wold hold up to what Chen did either.... reality is what he had to work with back in 2013 was worth a LOT less than most here taught at the time.

Chen had more then enough of everything. Inability to do it, is the problem.

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[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Chen had more then enough of everything. Inability to do it, is the problem.

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Well we disagree on that...

It comes down to how other shareholder and board feel about the job he has done... most of them disagree with you too.

Might be best to liquidate and reinvest...