View Poll Results: Did you buy shares ?

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  • Yes, I'm acting now !

    694 62.52%
  • No

    416 37.48%
  1. morganplus8's Avatar
    Hey Super

    I am Canadian and bought BlackBerry in canada funs back when dollar was par with usd, or close to it

    I too have a gain due to exchange rates, but I have thought about this, and whether I bought in usd or can, I think I would be the same as far as profits or losses, due to the fact that the BlackBerry stock trades in USD and then the Canadian stock reflects the current exchange rate.

    Ie, if I bought 1000 shares in USD and 1000 in Can$ at the same time, at the end of the day, if I sold both, I would be about even, since I would take that usd bank roll and convert that to Canadian dollars at the time of sale.

    I would really only lose if I held the usd in a usd account and then later converted at a loss if all of a sudden the Canadian dollar spiked

    Ps. Anyone else excited for figuring out why SPHS spiked last night?




    Posted via CB10
    Hi farmwesteve !!

    You have nailed it, in the end, it doesn't matter what currency you buy the stock in. If you bought when the stock was at par, (see my example) you have paid $ 18.00/US or CDN for a share. Today, you have seen the stock trade at $ 6.70/shr US and $ 9.00/CDN and so the drop in US terms is much larger than the drop in CDN terms and you have still benefited from the purchase at par. At one point this year, the stock was down from $ 18.00/US to $ 6.00/US but in CDN terms it was down from $ 18.00/shr/CDN to $ 9.00/CDN or far less than if you played in US currency alone. In the very short-term, say this year, currency mattered slightly, and in Canada's favour.

    As for a take-over of BBRY, not going to happen as Chen sees a minimum of $ 15.00/shr/US and Prem needs that amount to even consider selling out his position. Prem controls enough shares to stop a take-over and everyone knows this hence no offer will ever occur. Once Chen takes back a pile of those Conv. Bonds, the story changes in the Fall. I think the stock will be much higher if Chen can take out a very large portion of those bonds. At that time we will also be seeing new phones and solid revenue numbers versus yoy quarters.

    Thanks for the heads up compliment on SPHS, prostrate cancer is big business and this little company has a winner. It would take nothing to buy this company and it is worth at least three times the current price.
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    07-08-16 11:47 AM
  2. farmwersteve's Avatar
    Hi farmwesteve !!

    You have nailed it, in the end, it doesn't matter what currency you buy the stock in. If you bought when the stock was at par, (see my example) you have paid $ 18.00/US or CDN for a share. Today, you have seen the stock trade at $ 6.70/shr US and $ 9.00/CDN and so the drop in US terms is much larger than the drop in CDN terms and you have still benefited from the purchase at par. At one point this year, the stock was down from $ 18.00/US to $ 6.00/US but in CDN terms it was down from $ 18.00/shr/CDN to $ 9.00/CDN or far less than if you played in US currency alone. In the very short-term, say this year, currency mattered slightly, and in Canada's favour.

    As for a take-over of BBRY, not going to happen as Chen sees a minimum of $ 15.00/shr/US and Prem needs that amount to even consider selling out his position. Prem controls enough shares to stop a take-over and everyone knows this hence no offer will ever occur. Once Chen takes back a pile of those Conv. Bonds, the story changes in the Fall. I think the stock will be much higher if Chen can take out a very large portion of those bonds. At that time we will also be seeing new phones and solid revenue numbers versus yoy quarters.

    Thanks for the heads up compliment on SPHS, prostrate cancer is big business and this little company has a winner. It would take nothing to buy this company and it is worth at least three times the current price.
    Thanks Morgan for the explanations

    I agree about no way for a buyout below $15, I guess in my mind, I was thinking that as a bare minimum, due to Perm having such a high average share.

    My thinking was that with these silly overpriced buyouts of whatsapp etc, that some smart large company would offer a $17-$20 price for BlackBerry and work with them in the backend to make it happen and that they would see value in a company like BlackBerry even at that level. I'm not really saying I want that, but I'm more saying that I'm surprised there isn't leaked info of those sort of talks happening.


    As for the cherries, we grow very small average, only a couple acres, but they are a BC variety called Summit. We grow them under plastic covered high tunnels to protect them from rain cracking and we use our old icewine netting to net the sides to protect them from the birds. They get nice and sweet and big, because we have limited the number of factors that are beyond our control.

    This year is exceptional with the heat, they are going to be amazing!



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    07-08-16 02:33 PM
  3. bspence87's Avatar
    Thanks Morgan for the explanations

    I agree about no way for a buyout below $15, I guess in my mind, I was thinking that as a bare minimum, due to Perm having such a high average share.

    My thinking was that with these silly overpriced buyouts of whatsapp etc, that some smart large company would offer a $17-$20 price for BlackBerry and work with them in the backend to make it happen and that they would see value in a company like BlackBerry even at that level. I'm not really saying I want that, but I'm more saying that I'm surprised there isn't leaked info of those sort of talks happening.


    As for the cherries, we grow very small average, only a couple acres, but they are a BC variety called Summit. We grow them under plastic covered high tunnels to protect them from rain cracking and we use our old icewine netting to net the sides to protect them from the birds. They get nice and sweet and big, because we have limited the number of factors that are beyond our control.

    This year is exceptional with the heat, they are going to be amazing!



    Posted via CB10
    Where abouts in Ontario are ya? I love me some cherries, and could consider a drive to get my hands on "the best in Ontario
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    07-08-16 04:11 PM
  4. bbjdog's Avatar
    Thanks SF for the good point on play currency game!

    For those who want to keep trashing BlackBerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    S&P Dow Jones Indices Announces Changes to the S&P/TSX Canadian Indices
    2016-07-08 05:15:00 PM ET (CNW Group)
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    Results of the Quarterly Review of the S&P/TSX Composite Buyback and Shareholder Yield Indices

    S&P Dow Jones Indices Canadian Index Operations announces the following index changes as a result of the quarterly S&P/TSX Composite Shareholder Yield and the S&P/TSX Composite Buyback Indices Reviews. These changes will be effective at the open on Monday, July 18, 2016.

    S&P/TSX Composite Buyback Index July 2016 Quarterly Index Review

    ADDITIONS


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    Symbol Issue Name CUSIP
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    CUF.UN Cominar REIT 199910 10 0
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    EMP.A Empire Company Limited 291843 40 7
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    GIL Gildan Activewear Inc. 375916 10 3
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    MBT Manitoba Telecom Services Inc. 563486 10 9
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    AAR.UN Pure Industrial Real Estate
    Trust 74623T 10 8
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    SW Sierra Wireless Inc. 826516 10 6
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    DELETIONS


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    Symbol Issue Name CUSIP
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    BMO Bank of Montreal 063671 10 1
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    BNS Bank of Nova Scotia 064149 10 7
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    BAM.A Brookfield Asset Management Inc. 112585 10 4
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    CFP Canfor Corporation 137576 10 4
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    EXE Extendicare Inc. 30224T 86 3
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    S&P/TSX Composite Shareholder Yield Index July 2016 Quarterly Index Review

    ADDITIONS


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    Symbol Issue Name CUSIP
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    BB BlackBerry Limited 09228F 10 3
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    BBD.B Bombardier Inc. Class B SV 097751 20 0
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    CHE.UN Chemtrade Logistics Income Fund 16387P 10 3
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    CIG Colliers International Group
    Inc. 194693 10 7
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    BCB Cott Corp 22163N 10 6
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    DII.B Dorel Industries Inc. Class B
    SV 25822C 20 5
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    EDV Endeavour Mining Corporation G3040R 15 8
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    ERF Enerplus Corporation 292766 10 2
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    FM First Quantum Minerals Ltd 335934 10 5
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    FRU Freehold Royalties Ltd. 356500 10 8
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    G Goldcorp Inc. 380956 40 9
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    IAG Industrial Alliance Insurance 455871 10 3
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    MBT Manitoba Telecom Services Inc. 563486 10 9
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    MTL Mullen Group Ltd 625284 10 4
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    TRI Thomson Reuters Corporation 884903 10 5
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    TA TransAlta Corporation 89346D 10 7
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    WEF Western Forest Products Inc. 958211 20 3
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    WCP Whitecap Resources Inc. 96467A 20 0
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    DELETIONS


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    Symbol Issue Name CUSIP
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    CM Canadian Imperial Bank of
    Commerce 136069 10 1
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    CLS Celestica Inc 15101Q 10 8
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    GIB.A CGI Group Inc. Class A SV 39945C 10 9
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    CSH.UN Chartwell Retirement
    Residences 16141A 10 3
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    DOL Dollarama Inc. 25675T 10 7
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    EMP.A Empire Company Limited 291843 40 7
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    WN George Weston Ltd 961148 50 9
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    GRT.UN Granite REIT 387437 11 4
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    GC Great Canadian Gaming Corp 389914 10 2
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    MRU Metro Inc. 59162N 10 9
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    NA National Bank of Canada 633067 10 3
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    NSU Nevsun Resources Ltd 64156L 10 1
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    PWT Penn West Petroleum Ltd. 707887 10 5
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    RY Royal Bank of Canada 780087 10 2
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    TD Toronto-Dominion Bank 891160 50 9
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    TCN Tricon Capital Group Inc. 89612W 10 2
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    WJA WestJet Airlines Ltd. 960410 50 4
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    WTE Westshore Terminals Investment
    Corporation 96145A 20 0
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    07-08-16 05:21 PM
  5. farmwersteve's Avatar
    Where abouts in Ontario are ya? I love me some cherries, and could consider a drive to get my hands on "the best in Ontario
    Hey,

    we have a family farm here in Niagara On The Lake. (https://m.facebook.com/TheFruitShackNOTL )

    It's in the tractor where I spend most of my time on crackberry viewing this thread.

    I make most of my trades using my BlackBerry Passport while trying not to 'take out' any grapevines on the tractor!


    I have my BlackBerry Priv with me too, but have yet to put my sim into it. I Hotspot to it from the passport

    It's funny, most complain of lack of apps for BlackBerry, it's too bad that snap has to be sideloaded, because it fulfills most my app needs. Compared to the priv, the same apps actually work just as well on my passport compared to the priv

    I still can't believe, with so many parallels that Google hasn't made a run at BlackBerry. The self driving cars, the securing of android, it seems like a match made in heaven. Especially since google could cherry pick all the smooth workings of bb10 and start to implement them to Google.

    Anyways enough of me and my BlackBerry addiction

    (ps, we don't start selling our own cherries until Sunday, in the meantime we have some local cherries for sale, they are good, but not like Ours!)









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    07-08-16 06:26 PM
  6. Corbu's Avatar
    Please post a pic of those cherries once they go on sale, farmersteve!

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    07-08-16 07:02 PM
  7. bspence87's Avatar
    Hey,

    we have a family farm here in Niagara On The Lake. (https://m.facebook.com/TheFruitShackNOTL )

    It's in the tractor where I spend most of my time on crackberry viewing this thread.

    I make most of my trades using my BlackBerry Passport while trying not to 'take out' any grapevines on the tractor!


    I have my BlackBerry Priv with me too, but have yet to put my sim into it. I Hotspot to it from the passport

    It's funny, most complain of lack of apps for BlackBerry, it's too bad that snap has to be sideloaded, because it fulfills most my app needs. Compared to the priv, the same apps actually work just as well on my passport compared to the priv

    I still can't believe, with so many parallels that Google hasn't made a run at BlackBerry. The self driving cars, the securing of android, it seems like a match made in heaven. Especially since google could cherry pick all the smooth workings of bb10 and start to implement them to Google.

    Anyways enough of me and my BlackBerry addiction

    (ps, we don't start selling our own cherries until Sunday, in the meantime we have some local cherries for sale, they are good, but not like Ours!)









    Posted via CB10
    That's hilarious. I'm pretty sure I've been to your place. I went to school down there and worked on houses in the summer. We did a place just down the street.

    Good to know that's you. I'm down in Niagara at least three times a year. Next time I'll stop in to check out your cherries (and blackberries)
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    07-08-16 08:46 PM
  8. Corbu's Avatar
    Longer, 1:56 version...

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    07-08-16 09:03 PM
  9. Corbu's Avatar
    BlackBerry Misinformation and the Smartphone Security Crisis
    By Rob Enderle

    I’m getting kind of tired of reading that BlackBerry is getting out of the hardware business; BlackBerry isn’t getting out of the hardware business. It stands alone as the only smartphone company exclusively focused on business, security and traditional communication. Until someone else steps up to meet this need, there continues to be a market for its hardware and, as a BlackBerry Priv user myself, I’d hate to see the company go. What caused this latest group of articles was that BlackBerry is discontinuing the Classic phone. But suggesting that it is getting out of the business because it’s eliminating one phone would be like saying Apple is going to discontinue iPhones because it no longer intends to build and sell the iPhone 3. Most consumer-focused companies stop building a model after six to 12 months; business-focused companies have to hang on to designs longer, but you have to admit that the BlackBerry Classic was getting a little long in the tooth.

    Let’s talk about why we need a company like BlackBerry to carry the business focus torch.

    Smartphone Malware

    The first big reason we need a business/security-focused platform is that there is a ton of malware focused on both iOS and Android platforms. Currently, 10 million, yes that is 10 million, Android phones are compromised by a family of auto-rooting viruses. The worst currently being tracked is called HummingBad. This is a nasty piece of work. It is sourced from a Chinese ad-based company (yep, an actual identified company has produced this nasty beast). Right now, it appears to mostly generate massive ad profits by swiping the revenues that otherwise would flow to other firms.

    It is as much an attack on Google as it is an attack on you because, while in does infiltrate command and control servers, it installs promoted apps automatically, defrauds mobile advertisers, and corrupts the statistics inside the Google Play Store. This is generating something like $300,000 a month in revenue for the firm that created it.

    This class of product takes control of the phone and copies out the information on it,including pictures. It is not only capable of turning on the cameras and microphones remotely but McAfee demonstrated years ago that it could cause the phones to catastrophically fail by generating excessive heat. We don’t have direct evidence yet of a phone being made to combust but it is theoretically possible and when a phone burns up, it automatically destroys the evidence.

    As you’d expect, most of the phones compromised are in China (about 1.6M) but the U.S. count is rising and is already at 286,000. The really scary part is that while it used to be that you’d get one of these things by being tricked into installing it, now it can be placed on the phone by just going to a compromised site. These are mostly porn sites, so an infection on a business phone would lead to a conversation with IT and a manager that I doubt most employees want to have. Even if the phone was infected by another site, you’d never know.

    Since this is a rootkit, it survives a factory reset, it has super-user permissions so you can’t get rid of it easily, and it can access sandboxed content. So while this initial instance doesn’t appear to be doing anything particularly bad, this is China we are talking about. What a Chinese firm has, the government has, and it is capable of literally taking over the phone.

    The scary stuff doesn’t stop there.

    More Smartphone Attacks: Things Are Potentially Much Worse

    For some time, we’ve been using phones as a major part of multi-factor authentication, thinking that this was relatively safe. Apparently, it isn’t. In a known exploit, the authentication information sent to the phone was intercepted and sent to the attacker. This comes to us care of Russia.

    And hackers have been busy, because now just syncing your smartphone with your PC can compromise the phone’s ability to provide that critical second-factor authentication reliably. Some researchers are now reporting that using a phone as part of a two-factor authentication program simply may not provide the security benefits promised. Even the commonly used “call-back” method of two-factor authentication may now be compromised, according to The Register. It has actually gotten to the point that the banks using smartphones for multi-factor authentication are notifying customers of the problem and providing advice on how to observe and fix it. In fact, the banking industry began reporting the malware problem three years ago.

    Wrapping Up: Why We Need BlackBerry’s Business Focus

    Consumer phones are simply no longer safe enough for much of what we use them for, and for companies and governments, where the need for security is extremely high, they are not a safe option. As long as that is the case, we need at least one company where security is paramount and with which we can be better assured that these security processes actually work; otherwise, we are likely go back to removing the authorization for smartphones for business use and forcing employees to go back to using flip phones. Hey, if we have to go that way, at least Motorola is ramping the flip phone form factor up. You know, I’m told it is currently the fastest growing phone segment. Go figure.
    07-08-16 09:06 PM
  10. Corbu's Avatar
    07-08-16 09:10 PM
  11. Corbu's Avatar

    blackberry ‏@blackberry 7 hours ago
    congrats #blackberry user @milosraonic on your historic #wimbledon win! Oh, @canada! http://blck.by/29apfit
    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-13561534_1337073249654654_646081808_n.jpg
    07-08-16 09:16 PM
  12. Corbu's Avatar
    07-08-16 09:22 PM
  13. farmwersteve's Avatar
    That's hilarious. I'm pretty sure I've been to your place. I went to school down there and worked on houses in the summer. We did a place just down the street.

    Good to know that's you. I'm down in Niagara at least three times a year. Next time I'll stop in to check out your cherries (and blackberries)
    Crazy small world.
    I have a cousin who works for BlackBerry.
    So, he is my hook up for my devices.

    He had the z10 before it was released, but wouldn't show it to me because he knew I was a Crackberrian!

    He is on the software side in management

    If anyone has any questions maybe I can see if he is willing to help us with answers.

    He is usually pretty tight lipped about company stuff, can't say I blame him. But you never know.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    07-08-16 10:55 PM
  14. farmwersteve's Avatar
    Please post a pic of those cherries once they go on sale, farmersteve!

    Will do. I will put my priv in the photo for perspective and to remain OT, or at least an effort to have something topical!

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    07-08-16 10:57 PM
  15. tmurphx5's Avatar
    Will do. I will put my priv in the photo for perspective and to remain OT, or at least an effort to have something topical!

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    To remain OT they need to be Black Cherries.

    Passport running on 10.3.2. 2876
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    07-09-16 08:48 AM
  16. Corbu's Avatar
    Love this:


    Instagram pic that generated the thanks:


    Who is watasiwahyo? Hyo-yeon...

    Who is Hyo-yeon?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Hyo-yeon
    Last edited by Corbu; 07-09-16 at 08:12 PM. Reason: Can't say we don't cover all bases in this thread... Even KPOP! LOL!
    07-09-16 07:20 PM
  17. farmwersteve's Avatar
    Here is a pic of my BlackBerry Priv (+cherries)

    I used my BlackBerry Passport. I am not sure why the screen on the priv looks a little fuzzy in the photo


    I guess my loyalty to Canadian BlackBerry is due to the fact that my business relies on loyal Canadians too

    I find parallels to farming and BlackBerry hardware.

    If farming becomes more difficult in Canada to remain sustainable, and it seizes to exist, then eventually those cheap imports become very expensive and we also lose variety and choice.

    It obviously happened with smart phones. With the slow death of bb10 we lose choice of OS and we all know popular isn't always best.

    That is the one reason I would like to see a buyout of BlackBerry by a large company that wants to pursue and enhance bb10 to some degree, I feel it might be my only way to ensure I get an android with bb10 combo







    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-img_20160710_082924.jpg

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    07-10-16 07:45 AM
  18. Corbu's Avatar
    07-10-16 01:47 PM
  19. bbjdog's Avatar
    Sorry SF!!!!!! There is always a sad side to sports.

    Viva Portugal!!!!

    BlackBerry should have sponsored Portugal!!!!

    Posted via my BlackBerry Passport
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    07-10-16 04:52 PM
  20. farmwersteve's Avatar
    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-img_20160302_102000.jpg

    With the current share price and hot summer days, the only thing that helps me sleep at night is the faith in a Fan of BlackBerry.

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    07-10-16 07:38 PM
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    With the current share price and hot summer days, the only thing that helps me sleep at night is the faith in a Fan of BlackBerry.

    Posted via CB10
    Just wait until Apple gets their hands on this and make it the next hip thing. LOL!

    Posted via my BlackBerry Passport
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    07-10-16 09:40 PM
  22. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Sorry SF!!!!!! There is always a sad side to sports.
    Viva Portugal!!!!
    BlackBerry should have sponsored Portugal!!!!
    Posted via my BlackBerry Passport
    They won against us pretty much the same way we won against Germans ...
    But at the end of the day, I'm pretty satisfied with our team in finals. Few would have bet a dime on this a few moths ago ... They (the players) have all my due respect and congratulations !
    To remain ON topic : I'm the guy of "desperate" causes ... with sometimes quite a great achievement
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    07-11-16 06:37 AM
  23. rarsen's Avatar
    OT for those interested in the around the world plane trip, powered only by the sun and using QNX. Plane left Seville, Spain for Egypt this morning with a surprise package for Andr the alternating Swiss pilot -- a raclette cheese lunch to be heated using energy generated by the sun.and the related accessory sun-glasses.

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-2016-07-11-solar-raclette.jpg
    http://www.solarimpulse.com/sitv
    Last edited by rarsen; 07-11-16 at 07:59 AM. Reason: Added reference URL
    07-11-16 07:26 AM
  24. Corbu's Avatar
    07-11-16 11:07 AM
  25. farmwersteve's Avatar
    Just wait until Apple gets their hands on this and make it the next hip thing. LOL!

    Posted via my BlackBerry Passport
    Actually, BlackBerry was ahead of their time when they made these a few years back.

    If I tape that to the back of my priv, it solves the heating issues!


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    07-11-16 11:19 AM
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