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  1. leafs123's Avatar
    Pre-market dropping a bit.
    03-14-13 07:25 AM
  2. gilmanhlee's Avatar
    I want to buy at bare minimum April $16 puts. Will wait for the price to peak before buying obviously. If price goes over $18 will buy $17, etc. Looking basically to spend no more than $1.3/call

    (TSX Prices)
    Thanks for sharing
    03-14-13 07:26 AM
  3. cjcampbell's Avatar
    Pre-market dropping a bit.
    I wonder if it's just some taking their profits before the launch of the GS4.
    03-14-13 07:29 AM
  4. bungaboy's Avatar
    Interesting.

    BYOD: When 800,000 Apps Becomes A Bad Thing

    BYOD: When 800,000 Apps Becomes A Bad Thing - Seeking Alpha

    Mar 14 2013, 07:17 by: Kerry Olauson | about: BBRY, includes: AAPL, GOOG Disclosure: I am long BBRY. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. (More...)

    The BlackBerry (BBRY) Z10 is now available for pre-order in the United States - a milestone for the battered smartphone maker. In recent years, market share has been dominated by Google's (GOOG) Android platform and Apple's (AAPL) iPhone.

    Many are skeptical of the success of the Z10. Bearish investors point to the lack of apps as being the major deterrent to the new smartphone. With the advent of BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) to many enterprises, these same bearish investors believe that BlackBerry has lost its niche market. This article will outline why this may not be entirely accurate.

    Open Source versus Closed Source Platforms

    "Open source" and "closed source" refers to whether or not a manufacturer makes the source code (computer code) available to developers to develop software for the platform. A good example from decades past is the old personal computer battles between Apple (closed source) and Microsoft (MSFT) (open source). Smartphones are basically mobile computers, so this analogy is somewhat fitting for the current smartphone BYOD debate.

    Of the three smartphone manufactures mentioned in this article, Android is open source. Apple and BlackBerry are closed source devices. This is important to note for enterprises considering BYOD. The open source platform is wonderful for building market share, which is what helped propel Microsoft in the personal computer market. However, the bigger a company gets and the more ubiquitous its platform become, the more it becomes a target of malware (malicious software like computer viruses).

    A recent study by Bit9 has shown that of the 400,000 apps that they tested on Google Play (the app store for Android), approximately 100,000 "may pose security risks". If this is extrapolated to the entire Android app population, this could mean 250,000 apps that are deemed unsafe. Of course, Google is vigilant in providing the safest environment possible, and they do regularly monitor Google Play. Google Bouncer is an in-house automated anti-virus system designed to remove malicious apps on the marketplace, and is credited with reducing malware by 40%.

    Android Does Not Fully Match the Microsoft Analogy

    So, you may be thinking, "Well, if Microsoft was open source and dominated business computing, then surely Android will dominate with open source phones." This I believe to be wrong.

    The difference between Microsoft computer dominance and Android smartphone dominance with respect to BYOD, is that you never connected your personal home computer to your corporate network. Granted, there are people that work with laptops (either their own or a company laptop). However, for large organizations with many users on their networks, this is still the exception. Managing apps that are on your personal smartphone is a completely different issue, and a difficult one to navigate for corporate IT departments.

    A risk announced by Symantec highlights how risky "open source" phones can be. The threat is called SuperClean, and will send contact lists, images, etc. to an external server. To directly quote the Symantec Blog post:

    "In effect, SuperClean turns any Android phone into the equivalent of a compromised thumb drive. This means any employee who brings their Android phone into the office and plugs it into their computer to recharge could compromise their entire network. While we have seen malware that moves from PC to phone, this is the first time that we have seen malware that jumps from phone to PC. But this method is remarkably simple so I would expect to see it repeated in other malware."

    Again, this is something that Google will have to work hard on to manage.

    Apple is the Second Best, Closed Source Smartphone for BYOD

    So, if you have read this far, then you must be thinking the obvious choice of the three platforms is Apple. Again, I would disagree. Although, there is no dispute that Apple makes quality products and do offer a plethora of apps, there is one thing that separates the new Z10 from the rest for BYOD: Balance Technology. The BlackBerry Balance Technology is a unique feature for smartphones, in that it will allow two environments for the phone to exist in - both a personal environment and a work environment.

    What this means is that a user can bring in their BlackBerry Z10, and corporate IT will have complete confidence that the user's personal apps will not be able to access work related information. These environments will be kept completely separate from one another.

    This functionality in the Z10 is what has led to recent large orders by such enterprise customers as the German Government. Reports indicate that the German Government has secured 40,000 enhanced Z10 smartphones at a cost of approximately $3,000 each (enhanced with a new micro-SD from Secusmart). The bigger picture is that these phones will meet NATO standards for security. NATO represents 28 governments throughout Europe and North America. This is a very strong endorsement for the Z10, in my opinion.

    Why the BlackBerry Z10 is Your Best Choice for BYOD

    Finally, I would like to summarize BlackBerry Z10 features (in order of importance) as they relate to BYOD. This list outlines why I believe the Z10 is your best choice for BYOD.

    1. A Superior Closed Source Environment

    This, without a doubt, is the most fundamental concern for BYOD (which has also been called Bring Your Own Danger). As the title of this article implies, 800,000 apps is not a good thing when it comes to BYOD environments. The BlackBerry Z10 has come to the American marketplace with approximately 90,000 apps that are developed for their closed source platform. Compare this to Android's 800,000 open source apps, and from a corporate IT perspective… you suddenly see real value in the Z10. This is a major disadvantage for the Android platform, and is the main reason the Z10 should be considered a superior product for BYOD.

    2. Balance Technology

    As I have mentioned earlier, this alone separates the Z10 from the iPhone (which is why I have placed it second on my list for BYOD). I feel that this functionality has not received enough attention and has been somewhat passed over. Balance Technology is fundamental to the BYOD trend - all BYOD phones should have this functionality. This allows users to bring their personal phones to work and have full confidence that their apps will not harm corporate IT networks, as well as maintain their privacy. You simply sign-in and out of each environment. This is like having two phones in one.

    3. QNX Operating System

    Third on my list (and my personal favorite), is the QNX operating system (OS). There is no point in listing phone features without also including a great operating system. The Z10 has the best OS on the market - hands down. What separates the QNX OS from Apple and Android is that it has a microkernel based OS. Apple iOS is a hybrid kernel and Android is a monolithic kernel. The significance of this is that BlackBerry Z10 developers are able to streamline applications making them much more efficient, reliable and secure.

    QNX systems are found throughout the world, and through a wide range of products. Computer systems that cannot be allowed to fail use QNX, like nuclear power stations, automotive systems, 9-1-1 dispatch systems, etc. Car manufacturers like Acura, Audi, BMW and Porsche (POAHF.PK) use QNX systems to help run their vehicles. QNX systems are even able to park your car without you in it! The QNX OS is another reason why the BlackBerry Z10 is superior to Apple and Android products.

    4. BlackBerry Protect

    BlackBerry Protect is a great feature for BYOD usage. Should an employee lose their phone, they are able to access it remotely. They can either choose to lock the phone, or completely delete the contents of the phone (including the micro-SD card). Other options are the ability to locate your phone on a map, as well as calling your mobile network to take action on your behalf - great features for BYOD.

    5. Premium Features like Hub, BBM, Multitasking, and Keyboard

    These are more convenience features that are nice to have, and are not essential for BYOD consideration. The BlackBerry Hub allows the user to manage all of their messages in one location. Multitasking allows the user to run multiple applications at once. For example, you are on the phone but need to access your calendar - the Z10 will let you do this. Therefore, you are not required to close an application down to open another. I have also included links to the new BlackBerry Keyboard which has the ability to track the users typing behavior to assist in communication.

    Full Disclosure

    In closing, I would like to disclose that I currently own an Android product. I have been very happy with it as my personal phone. I have never owned a BlackBerry or Apple smartphone. I believe all three are quality products, however my intention with this article is to highlight why I feel the BlackBerry Z10 is a strong contender in the BYOD debate. I also feel that enterprise customers would be wise to continue to encourage BlackBerry products with their employees. With six BlackBerry 10 smartphones scheduled for release in 2013, there should be lots to choose from.
    03-14-13 07:29 AM
  5. BThunderW's Avatar
    Personally this rally came 3-4 days ahead of my schedule, I was expecting further drop for short covering. But now that short interest has been released it's obvious that shorts have no intention of covering so this thing will probably sit high ahead of earnings. My original target going into earnings was ~$15.5. This yet still might hold true. Will play the swings until then but going into earnings I'm betting on "mostly" positive outcome and will play puts/calls accordingly.
    bungaboy and Acumenight like this.
    03-14-13 07:30 AM
  6. EvanRitch's Avatar
    I find that when stocks should go up they dont. Just from my experience.When you say theres no way it will be down today the stock usually goes down haha. Anyways I hope for a big jump in either direction. I want some calls or puts but want this to go higher or lower. Of corse now that I said I expecft it to drop today it will probably go up 17% always the opposite hahah
    bungaboy and Steve Rizla like this.
    03-14-13 07:36 AM
  7. OMGitworks's Avatar
    My take, FWIW.... Since the launch the professional shorts have been trying to shake out the weak, retail stock holders by pushing the stock down when they can. They were mildly successful for a while. Now the shoe is on the other foot for the next 2 weeks. Week, retail shorts are likely panic, maybe even get margin calls and be forced out. However, I think, and have no way to know for sure, that most of the shorts are the big boys. They are going to absorb all of this good/great news and the ER, playing rope-a-dope and absorbing body blows hoping to live to fight after ER. Then they will pounce downplaying all the positives and trying to push the stock down. If sales are good but not great or the buzz starts to die, they will smell blood and go for it. We will see who wins, I am not convinced either way yet though I hope the folks who post here are correct. I just haven't seen compelling evidence yet that BB10 will stay hot for more than the next month or so. Then again, I won't have my BB10 until the 28/29th. In my view we have confirmation that the launch is going well, but I don't know enough yet to invest. The 1M order is great, but if it is AT&T or Verizon and it is for Z10 and Q10 then its not really earth shattering, they will each need to sell millions to make BB10 a US success.

    I just ordered my Z10 for 3/28 delivery, I'm doing my part and psyched!!!

    Good luck to everyone, the next 2 weeks could be a wild ride!
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    03-14-13 07:37 AM
  8. bungaboy's Avatar
    Entertaining reading. Consider it's source but we need guys pushing for our side too.

    BlackBerry Z10 Already A Winner

    Mar 14 2013, 08:24 by: jaberwock | about: BBRY Disclosure: I am long BBRY. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. (More...)

    Less than four weeks ago, analysts at Pacific Crest and Canaccord issued a downgrade of BlackBerry (BBRY), with a $9 target price and a sales forecast of 300,000 Z10 phones for February. James Faucette of Pacific Crest, who has been bearish on BlackBerry since before the Z10 launch, also rated the chances of BlackBerry's new line of phones being a success at less than 1 in 10.

    In the days following the Z10 launch on January 25th, the news for BlackBerry was mostly bearish. Firstly, the company announced that the launch in the USA would be delayed, then we had news of Home Depot (HD) switching to the iPhone (a decision which most likely was made long before the launch of the Z10). These news items were accompanied by analyst downgrades. Doom and gloom articles with titles such as "Is the BlackBerry Z10 already a flop?" could be read daily on all of the financial websites.

    The share price had dropped from $18 just prior to the launch date, to about $12.50 by March 5th , and the number of shares sold short had risen to over 147 million (28% of the float) as of February 28th.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, where analysts never seem to tread, something totally different was happening:

    People who buy the phone like it. They like it so much that they tell their friends about it, and their friends buy it. They post comments on the internet and those comments are overwhelmingly positive. People love the Z10 operating system, there is no doubt about that. There is an old adage that if you make a better mousetrap, the world will line up at your door to buy it. BlackBerry has made a better mousetrap.
    Customer satisfaction surveys have rated the Z10 as the best phone on the market today.

    The company has said that sales have exceeded expectations, and that a significant number of customers are switching to BlackBerry from the Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOG) Android platforms

    One retailer in Canada has stated that the BlackBerry Z10 is leading the smartphone sales in its stores

    BlackBerry has stated that is has increased production of the Z10 phone to keep up with demand

    The German government has committed to use the BB10 operating system, and will purchase at least 5,000 phones

    An expected 5 days supply shipped to India sold out in two days

    A report in Barron's that said orders to component suppliers have been increased by "orders of magnitude", to levels approaching those of 2011

    A BlackBerry partner has placed an order for 1 million phones (the largest ever single order in BlackBerry history).

    There have been a few articles by sell side analysts who don't seem to believe what is happening. One rather silly article, again from Pacific Crest, tried to claim that a build-up of inventory at some U.K. stores indicated that sales of the phone had stalled, when in fact the inventory build-up was more likely an attempt to keep sufficient stock on hand to meet demand. The Canaccord analyst increased his sales forecast for February by a factor of 2.7, but he tried to put a negative spin on it, and reiterated his sell rating.

    The simple fact is that in the last couple of weeks, there has been a definite swing in sentiment. The news articles which point to a successful launch of the Z10 phone now exceed those which are critical of BlackBerry. Also, throughout the period since the launch, the positive news articles have generally come from more reliable sources than the negative articles.

    Although he is still trying desperately to push the bearish viewpoint, it looks increasingly like Mr. Faucette's ten to one long shot is heading towards the winner's circle.

    In previous articles, I have made an evaluation of BBRY for three different scenarios, and a forecast of sales. I am sticking with my sales forecast of 7 million BB10 sales per quarter. I have made a small change in my financial model to change the gross margin on services to 80% (from 50%), and I have adjusted the gross margin on older model phones to zero.

    Quarterly Revenue
    Z10 and Q10 sales (Units) 7,000,000
    Z10 and Q10 income (millions) 3850
    Older phone models revenue 900
    Services and software revenue 1000
    Total revenue (billions) 5750

    Quarterly expense
    Z10 and Q10 costs 1833
    Older phone model costs 900
    Services and software costs 200
    Launch costs 500
    Selling, general and admin costs 500
    R & D costs 500
    Total expense 4433

    EBITDA (quarterly) 1317
    EBITDA (annual) 5270

    Enterprise value 26348

    Share value $ 50.21

    My revised forecast is $50 per share, and I have not taken into account possible licensing deals or takeovers. The upcoming short squeeze could temporarily push the price much higher.
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    03-14-13 07:50 AM
  9. leafs123's Avatar
    Here we go with analyst updates.

    RBC hikes BB10 Q4 forecasts, 'numerous data points suggest Feb quarter BB10 sellthrough is stronger than Street forecasts'

    http://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst...l?si_client=st
    03-14-13 07:51 AM
  10. Marc_Paradise's Avatar
    Entertaining reading. Consider it's source but we need guys pushing for our side too.
    Something the author doesn't realize, and hasn't widely been talked about: Android apps on BB have access to the same data they have on Android, if the user gives them permissions. That means that the same range of data-stealing trojans are possible - and given the massive push to approve everything from the portathon in bb world, there's a bit of a time bomb waiting to happen.

    Of course, these apps won't have access to data stored in the "Work" side of things unless they were installed to that side. But that part won't matter once it happens - tech bloggers will downplay it in favor of pointing out how "weak" BB's vaunted security is.
    Last edited by Marc_Paradise; 03-14-13 at 08:08 AM. Reason: correctness
    03-14-13 08:00 AM
  11. Marc_Paradise's Avatar
    Here we go with analyst updates.

    RBC hikes BB10 Q4 forecasts, 'numerous data points suggest Feb quarter BB10 sellthrough is stronger than Street forecasts'

    StreetInsider.com - BlackBerry (BBRY) Z10 Could be Recapturing Lost Users - Analyst
    Not really an upgrade - just "hints that it's doing better than we thought". The actual rating of "Sector Perform" hasn't been changed. Those have yet to come - tomorrow, I think.
    03-14-13 08:02 AM
  12. leafs123's Avatar
    Not really an upgrade - just "hints that it's doing better than we thought". The actual rating of "Sector Perform" hasn't been changed. Those have yet to come - tomorrow, I think.
    I said update, not upgrade.
    03-14-13 08:12 AM
  13. Marc_Paradise's Avatar
    I said update, not upgrade.
    Yep, fair point - I missed that
    03-14-13 08:33 AM
  14. stevenson232's Avatar
    Sell 1 million phones.... Stock tanks.... I really don't get this side of the market at all
    03-14-13 08:34 AM
  15. morlock_man's Avatar
    Sell 1 million phones.... Stock tanks.... I really don't get this side of the market at all
    Where do you see the stock tanking?
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    03-14-13 08:35 AM
  16. rocdynasty's Avatar
    Sell 1 million phones.... Stock tanks.... I really don't get this side of the market at all
    it went up 8% ytd.... and today its only 5 mins in... patience
    03-14-13 08:36 AM
  17. cjcampbell's Avatar
    not exactly the start I was expecting.
    03-14-13 08:36 AM
  18. Marc_Paradise's Avatar
    Sell 1 million phones.... Stock tanks.... I really don't get this side of the market at all
    Profit taking and new shorts thinking (correctly) that this was a well-orchestrated spin from BBRY. They're rather foolishly betting on no new good news coming out today.
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    03-14-13 08:36 AM
  19. leafs123's Avatar
    Sell 1 million phones.... Stock tanks.... I really don't get this side of the market at all
    Profit taking.
    03-14-13 08:37 AM
  20. drummer_god's Avatar
    this is a weird open;
    up $.40 then down .$.20 within 8 minutes.
    volume is good, though
    03-14-13 08:38 AM
  21. duckJAI's Avatar
    Buying more on the dips!

    I can almost feel the fear from the shorts, doing their best to beat BBRY down so they can cover before ER.
    03-14-13 08:39 AM
  22. leafs123's Avatar
    Jefferies' Misek: 'Our checks indicate that the 1M order is for near-term sales and is not going into inventory'
    03-14-13 08:41 AM
  23. mrfreetruth's Avatar
    The only sells are the short sells. Without short selling BBRY would be well over$20. The shorts manipulate the free market by selling when no would be selling causing traders to act on the selling which creates more selling by then getting stops hit. There is a reason why a good majority of the world took their capital out of the US and told them to play with themselves. No reason after yesterdays news that BBRY should be trading below their $19 book value. New HIT phone ....NO value?
    m0de25, morganplus8, Corbu and 2 others like this.
    03-14-13 08:42 AM
  24. ipaqman's Avatar
    hi morgan,

    whats the reason for the sell off in the morning? would have thought it would gap up quite a bit no?
    03-14-13 08:43 AM
  25. AlexejKir's Avatar
    It is a reasonable start, some profit taking, should stabilize and go up hopefully. low 15$ is a good place to add
    03-14-13 08:45 AM
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