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  1. bungaboy's Avatar
    Prices will almost certainly adjust when second line sellers get stock into the pipeline and competiton develops. That could be good or bad depending how you look at it. A price drop is good for buyers but a smaller contribution back up the chain. An expected / predictable price cut is bad for early sales with some buyers waiting for the discounts.
    Anything is possible. Carphone with exclusivity will charge prime rate while they can. I would too. Like MSRP. Early adopters will pay list pricing.

    Like you indicate, once there is competition the price will drop. That is normal.

    I would pay $749 USD to get one on launch day.
    10-17-15 04:13 PM
  2. cjcampbell's Avatar
    Prices will almost certainly adjust when second line sellers get stock into the pipeline and competiton develops. That could be good or bad depending how you look at it. A price drop is good for buyers but a smaller contribution back up the chain. An expected / predictable price cut is bad for early sales with some buyers waiting for the discounts.
    Retail price "wars" won't necessarily affect the wholesale price so your premise makes no sense. BlackBerry will sell to their channels at a fixed cost and they can then fight over their individual margins.

    As for waiting for the price drop or discounts, outside of Apple, all manufacturers suffer the same as they all get discounted after the initial early adoption period.

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    bungaboy, sidhuk, W Hoa and 7 others like this.
    10-17-15 04:18 PM
  3. W Hoa's Avatar
    "... Well, it will cost 580, but only if you want to be ripped of by Carphone
    It should be noted that prices in UK in 's have VAT included. So that 580 figure would be inclusive of VAT which currently sits at, I believe, 20%. Minus VAT you are looking at about 480 or $740 US.
    10-17-15 04:39 PM
  4. plasmid_boy's Avatar
    Retail price "wars" won't necessarily affect the wholesale price so your premise makes no sense. BlackBerry will sell to their channels at a fixed cost and they can then fight over their individual margins.

    As for waiting for the price drop or discounts, outside of Apple, all manufacturers suffer the same as they all get discounted after the initial early adoption period.

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    It appears that our Mod is confusing markup retail price with manufacturer's wholesale price. I would like to think that it was a careless mistake.

    Posted via CB10
    10-17-15 04:41 PM
  5. Branta's Avatar
    It should be noted that prices in UK in 's have VAT included. So that 580 figure would be inclusive of VAT which currently sits at, I believe, 20%. Minus VAT you are looking at about 480 or $740 US.
    Yes... that's why I was very careful to say "before sales tax" so the comparison is clear, and I also specified I was comparing only on currency exchange rates, rather than the usual tradition of "delete $ symbol and insert or € as appropriate" or any other variation on the magic pin and random number generator.
    awindsr likes this.
    10-17-15 05:30 PM
  6. Branta's Avatar
    It appears that our Mod is confusing markup retail price with manufacturer's wholesale price. I would like to think that it was a careless mistake.
    No mistake whatsoever. I compared SIM free retail list price (outright purchase) from the same reseller, as displayed on the website, for each of the competing phones. All will include VAT (sales tax). Like is compared with like.
    10-17-15 05:39 PM
  7. Branta's Avatar
    A very scientific approach and statistically representative.
    Thanks. It was the best comparison I could find.

    I was told that a lot of posters here would like to be in your position of power.
    The "power" can be onerous, and it takes a certain effort to apply the rules impartially without letting personal views taint the application. I do my best and (probably unreasonably) expect other members to determine when I am speaking as a moderator, and when as "me, the other member".

    $750 USD for Priv is quite acceptable.
    That is a decision each potential buyer must make for themselves - or have it made by the family.
    CDM76 and gg22 like this.
    10-17-15 06:00 PM
  8. Corbu's Avatar
    10-17-15 06:44 PM
  9. cjcampbell's Avatar
    It looks like she only has 3 fingers on her right hand.
    Corbu, bungaboy, kadakn01 and 3 others like this.
    10-17-15 06:48 PM
  10. Corbu's Avatar
    BlackBerry should send her a Priv.
    bungaboy, kadakn01, 3MIKE and 1 others like this.
    10-17-15 06:53 PM
  11. bungaboy's Avatar
    It looks like she only has 3 fingers on her right hand.
    Why are you looking at hands????
    3MIKE likes this.
    10-17-15 06:57 PM
  12. cjcampbell's Avatar
    Why are you looking at hands????
    Well, to be honest, I was wondering if it was amputated due to repetitive stress injury....
    Corbu, bungaboy and 3MIKE like this.
    10-17-15 07:01 PM
  13. Corbu's Avatar
    And now on her left hand...

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-11296656_481112172058147_2007309607_n.jpg

    We'll have to sort this out in person when we meet her at our $100 party...
    10-17-15 07:20 PM
  14. bungaboy's Avatar
    BlackBerry should send her a Priv.
    Or send her a cjcampbell. LoL
    cjcampbell, Corbu, 3MIKE and 1 others like this.
    10-17-15 07:39 PM
  15. CDM76's Avatar
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    Priv comparison with Z30
    Wow. I really thought that the Priv would be a lot larger, more like the 6+. But if reasonably close to the Z30 I definitely will look at this as my Z30 replacement. Thanks for the pic !

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    3MIKE likes this.
    10-17-15 08:03 PM
  16. Bacon Munchers's Avatar
    Oi' Lads. We're pushing 275K views on the most popular list on the Tube.

    Generating buzz, and the author is BlackBerry. Chen is getting some cheap advertising. Nice.

    Guinness is on me tonight.
    Corbu, 3MIKE, cjcampbell and 5 others like this.
    10-17-15 09:44 PM
  17. Uzi's Avatar
    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-1445145042882_255719.jpeg

    I'll take the Priv anytime!
    10-18-15 12:13 AM
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    I'll take the Priv anytime!
    For sure !!!
    Uzi, bbjdog and bungaboy like this.
    10-18-15 12:42 AM
  19. plasmid_boy's Avatar
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    I'll take the Priv anytime!
    That white one looks like a dinosaur fossil.

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    bungaboy, Uzi, Superfly_FR and 7 others like this.
    10-18-15 07:19 AM
  20. just_say_no_to_crack's Avatar
    What's it going to take to get this stock back to $19?
    10-18-15 07:27 AM
  21. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Ok folks.
    Personal targeting AND anything considered as threatening (as an individual) is strictly forbidden here.
    Case is closed. Move on.
    Thank you very much.

    P.S: no like, no thank, no comment allowed/expected on this post.
    Please proceed to the next level directly and enjoy your Sunday !

    Cheers,
    SF.
    StormieTwo and Shanerredflag like this.
    10-18-15 08:38 AM
  22. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Some traction for BES12 Cloud in the channels :
    EMS EXPANDS PORTFOLIO WITH MOBILITY SOLUTIONS FROM BLACKBERRY - Press Releases

    Dubai, UAE – October 18, 2015 – BlackBerry Limited (NASDAQ: BBRY; TSX: BB), a global leader in secure mobile communications, today announced that EMS, a BlackBerry Strategic Channel Partner, is now offering BES12 Cloud in addition to BES12 on-premise.
    Last edited by Superfly_FR; 10-18-15 at 09:11 AM.
    morganplus8, sidhuk, Corbu and 5 others like this.
    10-18-15 08:42 AM
  23. bungaboy's Avatar
    What's it going to take to get this stock back to $19?
    Around $12
    10-18-15 09:17 AM
  24. ZayDub's Avatar
    Around $12
    LOL

    BBM Channel: C002165D3 Tour 9630 > Bold 9650 > Q10 > Playbook > Classic AND Passport SE!!!
    bungaboy and La Emperor like this.
    10-18-15 09:19 AM
  25. bungaboy's Avatar
    It looks like she only has 3 fingers on her right hand.
    There is a 6th century BC Proverb "A bird in the hand is worth three in the bush"
    cjcampbell, 3MIKE, Mr BBRY and 1 others like this.
    10-18-15 09:23 AM
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