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  1. ibpluto's Avatar
    I would have expected CrackBerry to write something like that, but I guess a story about abandoning BB for a few apps is more entertaining. I am still shocked about that article appearing on the front page and am equally shock that Mr. CrackBerry mocked the users for criticizing it. It's one thing to be a BB user and point out things that could be improved, but to have abandon a Z10 months ago and then write about why he won't come back unless....
    To that I was thinking, who give a rat's @$$
    Anyway, I am excited to see all the positive news lately and can't wait to see the new devices. Cheers gang.
    It has gotten pretty bad in here, of this to me there is no doubt. The forums you expect d.o.u.c h.e nozzles to be there, but it used be the front page was a place you could read decent news and reviews (almost a safe haven of sorts). Now they are posting troll opinion pieces. Then the sarcastic thread by Kevin was uncalled for. I didn't post any comments in Chris's oped but I can tell you that I used to post here regularly, now I am very close to dumping this site. At least we have this thread, I still like to come here and read what you lads post.


    CB10'n it via da Z...30
    06-13-14 07:18 PM
  2. BBUK14's Avatar
    I don't use the popular apps (Instagram, Candy Crush, and whatever else), so I have never cared that much about the app issue. I still don't have a single Android app on my phone.

    Still, his article hits the nail on the head for a huge segment of society, whether some of us want to dismiss it as trolling or whatever else (trolling has started to become synonymous with ' You've said something I don't want to hear', I'm afraid).

    For ME, BlackBerry is best, but I know loads of people who simply will not even think of buying a BlackBerry because it doesn't have native Instagram. That's just the way it is.

    This is why selling more phones would break things wide open for BlackBerry. Sell more phones, increase market share, get all the major apps in BlackBerry World, and there is nothing to stop BlackBerry racing back to being a significant player in the consumer world. Whether we like what was said in the article, for the majority of consumers, it's bang on target.

    Join the Cause @ BlackBerry Bootleg Marketing Channel - C003483F4
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    06-13-14 08:00 PM
  3. Signhere's Avatar
    Me thinks he has a few dollars at stake on the next ER...if ya know what I mean. .
    Shame he's given free reign without a vetting process.

    Edit: I see Kevin has addressed allot of everyone's concerns in his final post in "that " thread (started today)...fair enough, still want full disclosure if Umi has any monies/funds/convertibles in the short variety...thats fair...given his freedoms and connections I think?
    (I expect the answer is "none of our business" lol)


    Posted via a Device with Z and a 30
    Well, he is awfully cozy with the never ending BlackBerry positive spin specialists over at the Globe and mail. SMH

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-14 08:22 PM
  4. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Agree^^...but I feel we are past the "must sell a ton to survive" bit. I think (at least in "the western world" we are as small, market share wise, as we are going to go.

    Folks are fickle, and I know several who are moving devices just for the sake of moving. The app argument does hurt BlackBerry, no doubt...but some of those same folks come back to BB10 real quick when they realize that friggin back button sucks.

    Just my thoughts...which have had a couple beers.

    Posted via a Device with Z and a 30
    06-13-14 08:22 PM
  5. bungaboy's Avatar
    Well, he is awfully cozy with the never ending BlackBerry positive spin specialists over at the Globe and mail. SMH

    Posted via CB10
    Call me confused. Here on June 10 2014 Umi is stating this stuff for the Glob and Fail.

    Yet we are led to believe that 2 days later this was written specifically for CrackBerry Kevin.

    Try It Now Inside the Market - The Globe and Mail

    June 10 2014

    "Yes, BlackBerry is one that just does not fit into my growth portfolio. I've written about the reasons why. In short, they are not growing".

    "Yes I actually think BB10 is amazing. Best OS out there. But I switched to Android as an experiment a few months ago, and if I had to do it over I'd pick iOS (Apple). For my needs (and this really is personal), there are two reasons I'd pick Android or iOS before BB.

    1) Access to a huge selection of apps

    2) Google services integration is beautiful on both platforms, but not on BB.


    If BB could get access to the Google Play store (including Google services) then I'd go back to their devices in a heartbeat. BB10 is so fast, so slick, so awesome for people like me who are constantly messaging / emailing."
    06-13-14 08:56 PM
  6. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Call me confused. Here on June 10 2014 Umi is stating this stuff for the Glob and Fail.

    Yet we are led to believe that 2 days later this was written specifically for CrackBerry Kevin.

    Try It Now Inside the Market - The Globe and Mail

    June 10 2014

    "Yes, BlackBerry is one that just does not fit into my growth portfolio. I've written about the reasons why. In short, they are not growing".

    "Yes I actually think BB10 is amazing. Best OS out there. But I switched to Android as an experiment a few months ago, and if I had to do it over I'd pick iOS (Apple). For my needs (and this really is personal), there are two reasons I'd pick Android or iOS before BB.

    1) Access to a huge selection of apps

    2) Google services integration is beautiful on both platforms, but not on BB.


    If BB could get access to the Google Play store (including Google services) then I'd go back to their devices in a heartbeat. BB10 is so fast, so slick, so awesome for people like me who are constantly messaging / emailing."
    Wow...great research!! Things that make ya go...hmmm

    Posted via a Device with Z and a 30
    Last edited by Shanerredflag; 06-13-14 at 09:36 PM.
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    06-13-14 09:17 PM
  7. wojciechp's Avatar
    I would have expected CrackBerry to write something like that, but I guess a story about abandoning BB for a few apps is more entertaining. I am still shocked about that article appearing on the front page and am equally shock that Mr. CrackBerry mocked the users for criticizing it. It's one thing to be a BB user and point out things that could be improved, but to have abandon a Z10 months ago and then write about why he won't come back unless....
    To that I was thinking, who give a rat's @$$
    Anyway, I am excited to see all the positive news lately and can't wait to see the new devices. Cheers gang.
    I so agree with you on this front! I've only been a BlackBerry user since BB10 lunch and I can't understand how this site can put such a crap right on the front page.

    Posted via swift BlackBerry ? Z30!
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    06-13-14 09:44 PM
  8. bizzarothor's Avatar
    I so agree with you on this front! I've only been a BlackBerry user since BB10 lunch and I can't understand how this site can put such a crap right on the front page.

    Posted via swift BlackBerry ? Z30!
    I think it has become a business for everyone as well, so substance may not matter more as, let's push more content to draw more views and clicks. " show me the money" as they say.


    Sent using my ? Z30
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    06-13-14 10:59 PM
  9. bizzarothor's Avatar
    I, too, am not impressed with Kevin's sarcastic thread that plays downs, mocks out, whatever you want to call it, what many of the regulars on this site have noted without, I think, a whole lot of bias.

    I expect more from Kevin. I fully expect him to make amend on that one. There is no way he feels at ease with that move. No way.


    Sent using my ? Z30
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    06-13-14 11:03 PM
  10. Bacon Munchers's Avatar
    ... If adding a level of encryption to all communications becomes ubiquitous, then the performance penalty takes you so far out of real-time monitoring that the large scale data collection becomes meaningless.

    Unless the scan criteria utilizes 'key word' seaching.


    BTW,
    I understand that BlackBerry uses RSA tokens for some encryption, which is how the last NSA interception happened with the BlackBerry devices mentioned way back. This discovered (and known) 'backdoor token' was discussed in detail by one of my favorite experts: Steve Gibson. It wasn't the fault of BlackBerry.
    06-14-14 12:36 AM
  11. Bacon Munchers's Avatar
    I don't use the popular apps (Instagram, Candy Crush, and whatever else), so I have never cared that much about the app issue. I still don't have a single Android app on my phone.

    Still, his article hits the nail on the head for a huge segment of society, whether some of us want to dismiss it as trolling or whatever else (trolling has started to become synonymous with ' You've said something I don't want to hear', I'm afraid).

    For ME, BlackBerry is best, but I know loads of people who simply will not even think of buying a BlackBerry because it doesn't have native Instagram. That's just the way it is.

    This is why selling more phones would break things wide open for BlackBerry. Sell more phones, increase market share, get all the major apps in BlackBerry World, and there is nothing to stop BlackBerry racing back to being a significant player in the consumer world. Whether we like what was said in the article, for the majority of consumers, it's bang on target.

    Join the Cause @ BlackBerry Bootleg Marketing Channel - C003483F4
    True, but I have somewhat changed my stance; well, sort of:

    I used to want BlackBerry to sell millions of phones, but now I want to horde the technology to myself, and would rather the stock price rocket by means of the other avenues that we are now seeing appear.


    Shhhhh!
    That Z50 is MINE... MINE I tell ya!
    06-14-14 12:43 AM
  12. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    SO, you are saying that you think that someone like the NSA can't break into the Blackberry platform?
    Not again. Not here. Thanks.

    Posted via CB10
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    06-14-14 01:11 AM
  13. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    I am not going to debate you over this, but here is one few more pictures to look at Latest Windermere [Fake] - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com. Looks pretty legit to me.

    Posted via CB10
    As noted in title and confirmed by Bla1ze (the kind of guy you can trust 99.9% about this) in http://forums.crackberry.com/rumored...l#post10470899 it is a fake, mockup, home made, plastic or whatever you may like to call it but nothing close to legit.
    06-14-14 03:23 AM
  14. _dimi_'s Avatar
    So what's all the fuss about?

    Is it all about Chris Umiastowskis 'What Would It Take To Get Me Back To BlackBerry' 562-word opinion?

    He has been a long time supporter of the company. I think anyone with his experience would never bet against John Chen. Also (all speculation of course), the timing of this article confirms the rumours we've been hearing for the last few days. Don't forget that the people over at CrackBerry or with good relationships with analysts over in Bay Street (= Chris Umiastowski) will ALWAYS be privy to information before most people do. Besides, I can't see how BB10 having access to Play Store or Google services could be a bad thing?
    06-14-14 03:36 AM
  15. Komoto's Avatar
    I was thinking maybe Chris has some info that Google play is coming to BlackBerry World in the near future and hence the article. When it does come he can then do another article saying 'my issues are solved I am back to blackberry'.

    I don't think it is too bad to have these opinions. It is good to keep grounded and see what the average consumer is looking like.

    I personally don't use any Google products, only the search engine, and I plan to keep it that way.

    Having said that I am sure there are millions that do and they simply couldn't survive without it. This will be a struggle for BlackBerry unless they can get these services on the platform some how.

    Don't hate Chris too much. Besides he said that bb10 is a far superior product.

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    06-14-14 05:28 AM
  16. plasmid_boy's Avatar
    Don't hate Chris too much. Besides he said that bb10 is a far superior product.

    Posted via CB10
    Skillful con artists usually blend in some facts.

    Posted via CB10
    06-14-14 06:47 AM
  17. bungaboy's Avatar
    Skillful con artists usually blend in some facts.

    Posted via CB10
    06-14-14 09:47 AM
  18. bungaboy's Avatar
    Skillful con artists usually blend in some facts.

    Posted via CB10
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    06-14-14 09:48 AM
  19. sidhuk's Avatar
    I am giving him free pass on that statement, LoL, because, i mean look at the situation bro, he was in? Two adults? With mutual consent?
    That lady Monica, may have prevented few wrong decisions and may have saved lives, LoL. She should have been awarded instead.
    On the other hand, Nixon? No
    06-14-14 10:11 AM
  20. Corbu's Avatar
    OT:
    On the "Why bother with security?" theme...

    This one should get a few chuckles...

    From our friends in Germany:
    Chinesisches Smartphone mit Spionagesoftware entdeckt | MDR.DE
    Datensicherheit: Bochumer Firma G Data enttarnt erstes Spionage-Handy - Ruhrgebiet - Bild.de

    A cell phone with integrated spy software

    It had been suspected for a long time - but it would be the first time that it has also been demonstrated: this mobile phone is sold in Germany and worldwide, and it is already equipped from factory with spy software.

    What does the spy software do?

    The mobile phone is certainly very attractive: It looks like the Galaxy S4 from Samsung, even the packaging is very similar, and it can do everything that the original can. But there is an additional program that disguises itself as a normal app - and can do much more than the original, as Thorsten Urbanski from German security manufacturer "G Data" says "this spy program is able to read personal data and automatically forward it to servers abroad. Unnoticed by the user, it can install all kinds of apps and then steal for example online banking information, such as Mobile Tans and forward it directly to criminals. "In addition, according to G Data, the camera and microphone can be switched on: the records could then also be forwarded to external servers - without the phone owner's knowledge.

    Which smartphone is it?

    The device is the N9500 from the Chinese manufacturer Star. The smartphone apparently is becoming a best seller, as it costs in online trading only 130 to 165 Euro - making it much cheaper than comparable phones. There are also other advantages that will attract as many buyers apparently: "It is not a cheap device and looks visually to be very valuable. It has a quad-core and the latest Android operating system. It also includes many accessories: spare battery, charging cable, second shell, etc."

    Can you delete the software?

    Now, what can someone who has bought this phone do? - Unfortunately, not much, says Thorsten Urbanski of G Data: "Our antivirus software detects the malware, but the problem is: It is part of the device's firmware. This is not as easily uninstallable." In which case, only the entire operating system can be erased and a new installed. For a non-specialist that is hardly feasible…
    [...]

    This is the model "N9500" from the Chinese manufacturer Star, which is sold in Germany and France. Security expert Thorsten Urbanski (45): "The bug is disguised as Google Play Store app. The mobile phone sends unnoticed data of unsuspecting owner to a server in China." With dire consequences.

    [...]
    06-14-14 10:27 AM
  21. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Silly Agreement Possibility
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    06-14-14 12:03 PM
  22. dusdal's Avatar
    There are rumours flying about Z3 launching in India a week or so after Vietnam.

    They all seem to stem, however, from this article http://indianexpress.com/article/tec...ound-rs-11000/ in which nothing is substantiated and the author seems to be guessing.

    I would be very happy if it's correct I just haven't seen any credible sources.

    Has anyone seen any substance to this claim?



    Dominate the MCAT C0012A8A6
    06-14-14 02:47 PM
  23. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Same article that you've posted is all I've seen...hope its true though.

    Posted via a Device with Z and a 30
    06-14-14 03:41 PM
  24. sati01's Avatar
    I was thinking maybe Chris has some info that Google play is coming to BlackBerry World in the near future and hence the article. When it does come he can then do another article saying 'my issues are solved I am back to blackberry'.

    I don't think it is too bad to have these opinions. It is good to keep grounded and see what the average consumer is looking like.

    I personally don't use any Google products, only the search engine, and I plan to keep it that way.

    Having said that I am sure there are millions that do and they simply couldn't survive without it. This will be a struggle for BlackBerry unless they can get these services on the platform some how.

    Don't hate Chris too much. Besides he said that bb10 is a far superior product.

    Posted via CB10
    The traffic of this site is falling sharply, It's understandable the pessimism of these guys.
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    06-14-14 04:52 PM
  25. bungaboy's Avatar
    ER Call in 5 days. Clowns, trolls and other creatures have received their signals from the sleeper cells. LoL
    06-14-14 07:00 PM
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