View Poll Results: Did you buy shares ?

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  • Yes, I'm acting now !

    693 62.77%
  • No

    411 37.23%
  1. bungaboy's Avatar
    I hope there is no CB limit to the membership in the "Wall of Shame" Club.

    My list is on viagra today.
    09-23-13 02:52 PM
  2. spiller's Avatar
    Absolutely. In contrast to the first inning analogy, it's the bottom of the 9th and there are 2 outs and an 0-2 count.

    Lest anyone forget, they started trying to sell in March of 2012. It wasn't just in August. At $6 a share with a load of potential in BBOS10, they couldn't get a taker. Now, BBOS10 is dead on the vine. Take the money and run.

    Did none of you take note of the fact that BBM failed this weekend????
    BBM failed this weekend because PREM asked them to stop the deployment and keep the SP down. It would have had 20 Million downloads in 48 hours and been good news for the SP.
    09-23-13 02:54 PM
  3. m0de25's Avatar
    I hope there is no CB limit to the membership in the "Wall of Shame" Club.

    My list is on viagra today.
    Just make sure you tell your list to limit the dosage. Or else.

    http://m.en.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews.../21143171.html
    09-23-13 02:54 PM
  4. Corbu's Avatar
    A question to all of you who are much more insightful than I am: given what has just happened, would it be wise to consider purchasing some Fairfax Financial shares (slightly down since the offer was made)?

    If my question makes no sense, simply disregard it. Thanks!

    PS: Congratulations to SU_FR for creating this thread and to everyone that has been contributing. Though not posting myself, I have been following and learning a lot. Hope this thread will stay alive whatever happens!
    09-23-13 02:55 PM
  5. BThunderW's Avatar
    Rumors that Watsa already owns 28%. So chances of competing offers are very low. My Jan Calls are completely worthless thanks to that scumbag.
    09-23-13 02:55 PM
  6. m0de25's Avatar
    BBM failed this weekend because PREM asked them to stop the deployment and keep the SP down. It would have had 20 Million downloads in 48 hours and been good news for the SP.
    I suspect so, but does this mean no xBBM until November, you think?
    09-23-13 02:56 PM
  7. Gekko's Avatar
    A question to all of you who are much more insightful than I am: given what has just happened, would it be wise to consider purchasing some Fairfax Financial shares (slightly down since the offer was made)?

    If my question makes no sense, simply disregard it. Thanks!

    PS: Congratulations to SU_FR for creating this thread and to everyone that has been contributing. Though not posting myself, I have been following and learning a lot. Hope this thread will stay alive whatever happens!
    IMO - no. don't speculate. buy a low cost S&P 500 index fund instead.
    09-23-13 02:56 PM
  8. BergerKing's Avatar
    Troll brake is now engaged.
    09-23-13 02:56 PM
  9. BergerKing's Avatar
    OK, the shutdown was necessary because some people don't get the point. You can discuss the subjects, do not spend time trying to get under everyone's skin or calling names, and some of the other ridiculous things that have been going on. I understand that these are trying times, and everyone has an opinion about what has been going on, but it Does Not give anyone Carte Blanche to ignore the rules. So, clean up the behavior or it will be stopped. Regulars, exercise restraint, and curb your tendency to wanna lash back, y'all know better. No feeding the gremlins. Cool?

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    That is for the folks who don't seem to have acquainted themselves with the forum guidelines. Brakes released.
    Last edited by BergerKing; 09-24-13 at 01:29 AM.
    09-24-13 01:08 AM
  10. Kid Vibe's Avatar
    Backup, I need all the info I can get. Ignore the trolls...

    Worst case: Fairfax bid falls through, SP hits hard.

    Once again, 8 new contracts tomorrow, whether those are significant are yet to be determined. BBM is still a work in progress and won't be out for atleast a week. Will we ever see $15, doubtful...
    BergerKing likes this.
    09-24-13 01:23 AM
  11. sparkaction's Avatar
    Welcome back.... let's figure this LOI out and discuss the reason for Prem's low ball offer.
    BergerKing, Kid Vibe and bungaboy like this.
    09-24-13 01:25 AM
  12. sparkaction's Avatar
    Backup, I need all the info I can get. Ignore the trolls...

    Worst case: Fairfax bid falls through, SP hits hard.

    Once again, 8 new contracts tomorrow, whether those are significant are yet to be determined. BBM is still a work in progress and won't be out for atleast a week. Will we ever see $15, doubtful...
    Given my belief that us longs are being taken to the cleaners. I foresee tomorrow's contracts to reflect and support Prem's offer as being fair.
    Bugmapper likes this.
    09-24-13 01:28 AM
  13. Kid Vibe's Avatar
    Given my belief that us longs are being taken to the cleaners. I foresee tomorrow's contracts to reflect and support Prem's offer as being fair.
    Another question, do we see foreign companies intervening? CDN government might have a problem...
    09-24-13 01:32 AM
  14. JLagoon's Avatar
    Given my belief that us longs are being taken to the cleaners. I foresee tomorrow's contracts to reflect and support Prem's offer as being fair.
    If book value is $17 (according to Morgan), then I think; shouldn't the new contracts support the thought that the Fairfax offer is way too low? *sigh*
    09-24-13 01:36 AM
  15. Kid Vibe's Avatar
    If book value is $17 (according to Morgan), then I think; shouldn't the new contracts support the thought that the Fairfax offer is way too low? *sigh*
    I'm a bit confused, I thought the contracts were from businesses signing up for BES10? We are talking about the 8 new ones coming out tomorrow (apparently).
    fedakd and bungaboy like this.
    09-24-13 01:39 AM
  16. JLagoon's Avatar
    I'm a bit confused, I thought the contracts were from businesses signing up for BES10? We are talking about the 8 new ones coming out tomorrow (apparently).
    Right, I think the same. What boggles my mind is the valuation at $9 / share from Watsa. What the hell happened with book value? It is not calculated out of thin air, is it? This whole shenanigan is (speechless).
    09-24-13 01:45 AM
  17. Dan Lam's Avatar
    I'm still disappointed with how little shareholder interest was accounted for in this take under. In hindsight, prices were obviously driven down with last Friday's nightmare guidance so that Fairfax would be able to put in a $9 offer today and justify it. Disgusting.

    With $2.6b in cash, a $1b writedown that could be recovered later, Blackberry virtually sold all of it's parts for $1b (which includes BBM, BES, QNX, patents, etc.). If this is the final sale price, it makes zero sense whatsoever.

    I blame the Canadian government for keeping out competitive foreign offers. Sigh. The price probably would've been at least $13 had Microsoft, Samsung or maybe even Facebook been in the mix (on equally fair terms).
    fedakd, jxnb and Corbu like this.
    09-24-13 01:51 AM
  18. Kid Vibe's Avatar
    Right, I think the same. What boggles my mind is the valuation at $9 / share from Watsa. What the hell happened with book value? It is not calculated out of thin air, is it? This whole shenanigan is (speechless).
    Indeed. I would honestly love to see a leak plop out that has a Prem and TH working together to push the price down. That inventory release could have been released any other time prior, but nope. ER is going to be very, very interesting. And this whole BBM fiasco takes the cake. Lesson learned. Management was not at all communicative with shareholders since June's doomsday. I think if anyone has interest, it would be Lenovo, otherwise I have no clue... Atleast we have somewhat of a floor price, for now.
    bungaboy likes this.
    09-24-13 01:52 AM
  19. mastermike87's Avatar
    Right, I think the same. What boggles my mind is the valuation at $9 / share from Watsa. What the hell happened with book value? It is not calculated out of thin air, is it? This whole shenanigan is (speechless).
    Who cares what book value is!? Market value says that with a stock price hovering at 10 and the Q2 ER poised to set it at 7-8, 9 would be "fair".

    Think about if we fast forward to Q3 ER, given the current trend, the stock could potentially be at 4-6.

    I know it sucks for current shareholders who got in a while ago, but it is what it is. To use a sports analogy, player contracts may seem outrageous sometimes particularly if production is subpar. But in the end, it doesn't matter if there's a correlation between production and salary because the player will ultimately get what a team is willing to pay. Market forces dictate price, not book.

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    09-24-13 01:54 AM
  20. slipstream89's Avatar
    Its really late right now and i may not be functioning fully but did this article say that $9 is below fair value?

    Is the Blackberry buyout bid for real?
    bungaboy, jxnb and CDM76 like this.
    09-24-13 02:46 AM
  21. silversun10's Avatar
    What the hell happened to options ? both calls and puts lost so much value.
    yeah, share price flat lining from here on. which means no volatility and a very low options pricing.
    this is setting up for big gains if you can guess right whether this deal falls through or whether we get into a bidding war.
    but that is pure gambling, unless of course you are sure about where this is heading.
    bungaboy likes this.
    09-24-13 02:52 AM
  22. cgk's Avatar
    The fact that the stock is at $8.82 shows that nobody has any faith that anyone else is making a bid.
    09-24-13 02:54 AM
  23. silversun10's Avatar
    Its really late right now and i may not be functioning fully but did this article say that $9 is below fair value?

    Is the Blackberry buyout bid for real?
    Unless a very comprehensive process had been run in the background with many potential buyers passing at significantly higher values, writing a fairness opinion to back up the $9.00 offer price would be a tremendous challenge.

    The bottom line is that this take-private bid may be more sizzle than steak. The bid expiration is set for November 4th, so in short order we will see if this take-private bid has any real meat to it.
    09-24-13 03:00 AM
  24. silversun10's Avatar
    The fact that the stock is at $8.82 shows that nobody has any faith that anyone else is making a bid.
    most people maybe, but these things can change on a dime.
    we are on a diet of daily halts now.
    Superfly_FR and bungaboy like this.
    09-24-13 03:04 AM
  25. Komoto's Avatar
    Can't help but feel we got shafted. Premier trying to protect his investment.

    It just feels like the last two quarters have been an intentional sandbagging to drop the SP.

    Hopefully a bidding war starts, but I don't know how likely that is with the Canadian government in the picture.

    Posted via CB10
    bungaboy and Bugmapper like this.
    09-24-13 03:19 AM
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