View Poll Results: Did you buy shares ?

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  • Yes, I'm acting now !

    693 62.66%
  • No

    413 37.34%
  1. lcjr's Avatar
    Not likely. BBRY's investor relations are the worst around. That's why I hope someone rips him a new one at the AGM.
    I wonder if somebody going to that meeting would be willing to tell us what was covered here. I can't go but would love to know what they covered and any special comments made.
    Korepab likes this.
    07-03-13 09:50 AM
  2. cjcampbell's Avatar
    I wonder if somebody going to that meeting would be willing to tell us what was covered here. I can't go but would love to know what they covered and any special comments made.
    Barring any surprises, I'll be going. I'll try to report what goes on as it will be my first time at one of these things.

    Posted via CB10
    07-03-13 09:52 AM
  3. leafs123's Avatar
    I believe last year they had a live feed you could listen to. I want to go this year but I'm on the fence.
    07-03-13 09:57 AM
  4. sidhuk's Avatar
    No matter how i look at this stock, media coverage, analysts, stock reaction/volume etc. there is nothing ordinary about this stock price like any other stock. IMO It is more than just a normal market activity, no matter how much i try to convince my self. Some one really needs this company out of business. I know that i should not read in to manipulation story. If i start connecting dots from Orr joining samsung to the shorts having more accurate inside sales info than bulls, almost every news is fact twisting unless in the pumping days, from DoD BS to Knox which not even available in the market it proves that it is more than just usual market reaction to the stock price. US carriers BSing about marketing blackberry properly, sales people personally talking people out of buying blackberries? Good point is that despite all of that, blackberry did well. I hope that in next six months, word of mouth will make people realize how good blackberry products are and canada is doing that already cause i am seeing it happening here with my own eyes. It is the most advance mobil os out there. You can delay the truth but you cant kill it. All of this BS also gave me opportunity to accumulate shares at these low prices. So not sure if should get mad or thanks? Blackberry does have large enough cash to see that chapter unfold.
    07-03-13 09:57 AM
  5. lcjr's Avatar
    Barring any surprises, I'll be going. I'll try to report what goes on as it will be my first time at one of these things.

    Posted via CB10
    Thanks CJ. Good to see you back. I'll be taking a break for a few days as well when my family from Germany arrives tomorrow night. I'll be checking in now and then like you though.
    07-03-13 10:05 AM
  6. peter9477's Avatar
    I've seen that argument before, about the 2GB of RAM forcing BB to price itself out of the market. Although I'm sure it does have an effect, What is the price difference between 1 and 2 GB? $5, $10, $2. At the bulk prices they are paying, I can't see it being a big deal. Someday Samsung or Apple are gonna build some whopping huge device and it will sell like hotcakes and it will have 4 GB of RAM and the Z10 and Q10 are gonna look like kids toys beside it.
    Just spent some time trying to find out. It's probably next to impossible to find firm pricing numbers for the sorts of volumes involved, unless you're able to pay hundreds of dollars for the right report or are a real manufacturer negotiating with the vendors. Very ballpark, however, it looks like the cost difference could easily be $10. If true, that difference gets magnified in the price of the device, so I'd say it would definitely make a big difference in the price of these devices... I'll wildly guess at about $30-40 difference.

    I don't think you'll see the 4GB stuff in Apple any time soon either. They're always on the "economy" side of things, which works out for them since the OS is somewhat restricted. As for Samsung... well, guess who makes the chips (along with Micro and Elpida)? ;-) The pricing issues are a lesser concern for them.
    Shanerredflag and Bugmapper like this.
    07-03-13 10:06 AM
  7. bbranny's Avatar
    ppl in this thread got to stop throwing the word "stock manipulation ". you do know its illegal right to manipulate the market right? if you guys are so sure why have no one been arrested? i bet 90percent of the ppl here don't even know what the word means. they're just mad the stock is down and assume someone must be doing something shady. guess what, when a company is doing bad it will go down. ppl dont like investing in bad company.

    90percent of ppl here have no idea how the market works. they should just go to casino if you like gambling. at least you dont need to wait 3 month at a time to know how a company is doing. instant result at the casino.
    07-03-13 10:07 AM
  8. Kid Vibe's Avatar
    ppl in this thread got to stop throwing the word "stock manipulation ". you do know its illegal right to manipulate the market right? if you guys are so sure why have no one been arrested? i bet 90percent of the ppl here don't even know what the word means. they're just mad the stock is down and assume someone must be doing something shady. guess what, when a company is doing bad it will go down. ppl dont like investing in bad company.

    90percent of ppl here have no idea how the market works. they should just go to casino if you like gambling. at least you dont need to wait 3 month at a time to know how a company is doing. instant result at the casino.
    The market is not perfect. Manipulation and insider trading happens ALL THE TIME. There are a few veterans here who have probably witnessed this. Not defending those who lost on investments or trying to play the blame game, but in the world of business, rules sometimes are broken.
    lcjr and abouthsu like this.
    07-03-13 10:16 AM
  9. morganplus8's Avatar
    I believe last year they had a live feed you could listen to. I want to go this year but I'm on the fence.
    I think Kevin M did a CB live feed back to us last year?
    lcjr and leafs123 like this.
    07-03-13 10:17 AM
  10. morganplus8's Avatar
    ppl in this thread got to stop throwing the word "stock manipulation ". you do know its illegal right to manipulate the market right? if you guys are so sure why have no one been arrested? i bet 90percent of the ppl here don't even know what the word means. they're just mad the stock is down and assume someone must be doing something shady. guess what, when a company is doing bad it will go down. ppl dont like investing in bad company.

    90percent of ppl here have no idea how the market works. they should just go to casino if you like gambling. at least you dont need to wait 3 month at a time to know how a company is doing. instant result at the casino.
    You clearly aren't up to date on how private or closed Hedged Funds work! Then of course there are the many SAC Capital traders that go to jail almost every month now. They are getting group discounts on everything in prison, soap, mouth wash, cigarettes etc.. Really.
    07-03-13 10:22 AM
  11. Randeman's Avatar
    The market is not perfect. Manipulation and insider trading happens ALL THE TIME. There are a few veterans here who have probably witnessed this. Not defending those who lost on investments or trying to play the blame game, but in the world of business, rules sometimes are broken.
    Manipulation or not, BlackBerry is one of the most hated companies ever since I bought in 2009. These dips / crashes Are buying opps even though they tend to kick the crap out of my accounts. I'm waiting until the meeting to buy more shares, depending on how it goes.

    Posted via CB10
    plasmid_boy likes this.
    07-03-13 10:26 AM
  12. sidhuk's Avatar
    You clearly aren't up to date on how private or closed Hedged Funds work! Then of course there are the many SAC Capital traders that go to jail almost every month now. They are getting group discounts on everything in prison, soap, mouth wash, cigarettes etc.. Really.
    LoL, thanks for saving me to type few extra lines to make a point.
    07-03-13 10:26 AM
  13. sgt50's Avatar
    Well time will tell, I just bought BBRY shares because I believe

    Posted via CB10
    slipstream89, rarsen, lcjr and 1 others like this.
    07-03-13 10:28 AM
  14. slipstream89's Avatar
    Hey guys, can I get some input from option traders what this info means? its showing alot of open interest on the call side, now I don't know too much about options but is that a good sign or a short term bad side? much thanks in advance!
    Attached Thumbnails The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-stock-options.jpg  
    07-03-13 10:31 AM
  15. bbranny's Avatar
    You clearly aren't up to date on how private or closed Hedged Funds work! Then of course there are the many SAC Capital traders that go to jail almost every month now. They are getting group discounts on everything in prison, soap, mouth wash, cigarettes etc.. Really.
    ok. what is your point? anyone got arrested for BBRY stock manipulation yet? this thread is about BBRY right? Btw I work for a hedge fund. No, im not an analyst, i work in operation, but i have some idea of what is going on.
    07-03-13 10:32 AM
  16. bbranny's Avatar
    The market is not perfect. Manipulation and insider trading happens ALL THE TIME. There are a few veterans here who have probably witnessed this. Not defending those who lost on investments or trying to play the blame game, but in the world of business, rules sometimes are broken.
    I'm talking about BBRY, not the whole market. Ppl in this thread clearly are saying trader are manipulating the BBRY stock. they have no idea how the market work and just throwing out random statements. BBRY is not a good company. i dont think it could be any clearer after friday. investor dont believe in BBRY
    07-03-13 10:36 AM
  17. morganplus8's Avatar
    ok. what is your point? anyone got arrested for BBRY stock manipulation yet? this thread is about BBRY right? Btw I work for a hedge fund. No, im not an analyst, i work in operation, but i have some idea of what is going on.
    You could have fooled me with your response. I personally don't think you work for a Hedge Fund, but that's based on your comments. Do some research then, look at what has happened to Biovail Corp., Fairfax Fin. and many others. Look at their lawsuits, wins and how SAC Capital spends billions now defending themselves while heading for the pen. Then, look up Private Hedge Funds, come back to the board and explain to us how all of this ties into BlackBerry. I'm not going to do your work for you. Class dismissed!
    dusdal, Lehomer, jmehta22 and 24 others like this.
    07-03-13 10:46 AM
  18. jmehta22's Avatar
    You could have fooled me with your response. I personally don't think you work for a Hedge Fund, but that's based on your comments. Do some research then, look at what has happened to Biovail Corp., Fairfax Fin. and many others. Look at their lawsuits, wins and how SAC Capital spends billions now defending themselves while heading for the pen. Then, look up Private Hedge Funds, come back to the board and explain to us how all of this ties into BlackBerry. I'm not going to do your work for you. Class dismissed!
    BOSS
    07-03-13 10:49 AM
  19. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    I'm talking about BBRY, not the whole market. Ppl in this thread clearly are saying trader are manipulating the BBRY stock. they have no idea how the market work and just throwing out random statements. BBRY is not a good company. i dont think it could be any clearer after friday. investor dont believe in BBRY
    I guess you just like to argue semantics, perhaps read every post for the past eight months to better understand how obscure little sell side analyst reports move this thing...would not move 99 percent of other listed stocks but it will swing this thing 5%.

    That is the context and that is the discussion...thx
    07-03-13 10:52 AM
  20. plasmid_boy's Avatar
    I'm talking about BBRY, not the whole market. Ppl in this thread clearly are saying trader are manipulating the BBRY stock. they have no idea how the market work and just throwing out random statements. BBRY is not a good company. i dont think it could be any clearer after friday. investor dont believe in BBRY
    You sound upset by the responses to your post. But please understand the confusion lies in your OP on the subject as no where did it mentioned BBRY. But rather it specifically mentioned 'stocks' and 'market', so it is understandable that it was interpreted as such.

    Since now that you have clarified that you were talking about BBRY specifically and mentioned that you know what goes on behind the scene, would please let us know precisely how BBRY dropped the way it did?
    07-03-13 10:52 AM
  21. cgk's Avatar
    Forget the wider market for a minute, what is the most parsimonious explanation for what is happening? That there is widespread gaming or bbry is a mediocre company with performance issues and an increasing perception that it's management is not the right team to take it where it needs to be?
    07-03-13 10:54 AM
  22. BlackistheBerry's Avatar
    ppl in this thread got to stop throwing the word "stock manipulation ". you do know its illegal right to manipulate the market right? if you guys are so sure why have no one been arrested? i bet 90percent of the ppl here don't even know what the word means. they're just mad the stock is down and assume someone must be doing something shady. guess what, when a company is doing bad it will go down. ppl dont like investing in bad company.

    90percent of ppl here have no idea how the market works. they should just go to casino if you like gambling. at least you dont need to wait 3 month at a time to know how a company is doing. instant result at the casino.
    There is a 3 month wait, but the odds are much better!
    07-03-13 10:56 AM
  23. greggebhardt's Avatar
    Well time will tell, I just bought BBRY shares because I believe

    Posted via CB10
    There are plenty of share available but If you look at the charts this week, you should have waited for another week or so to get a much lower price.
    07-03-13 10:56 AM
  24. lcjr's Avatar
    Good lord, people creating profiles just to ask us to stop investing in a company we believe in.
    07-03-13 10:58 AM
  25. Shanerredflag's Avatar
    Good lord, people creating profiles just to ask us to stop investing in a company we believe in.
    LOL...
    morganplus8 and rarsen like this.
    07-03-13 11:00 AM
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