View Poll Results: Did you buy shares ?

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  • Yes, I'm acting now !

    693 62.60%
  • No

    414 37.40%
  1. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    The stock will likely still fall tonight as other markets open up around the world.
    07-02-13 05:10 PM
  2. chr1sny's Avatar
    Was chatting with my boss today and he was telling me about some of the companies he contracts with completely upgrading to new BB10 devices, as well as rolling out the BES10.1 secure work environment for iOS and Android.

    They're only industrial contracting companies with thousands of employees, not quite a DOD-level contract, but it's a good sign.
    Love your effort man. Kudos on the timely anecdote given on this relatively bad day for BBRY.
    07-02-13 05:17 PM
  3. Mikhou's Avatar
    Most of peoples here seem to have NEVER heard of "STOP LOSS" Orders...

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-stop-loss-order.jpg
    07-02-13 05:19 PM
  4. W Hoa's Avatar
    Most of peoples here seem to have NEVER heard of "STOP LOSS" Orders...

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    A stop loss would have been useless in minimizing your losses when the share price is down 25% at the open. You just get stopped out with the herd at market. Please redo your graph with that in mind.
    _dimi_, dusdal, fedakd and 11 others like this.
    07-02-13 05:38 PM
  5. greyw0lf01's Avatar
    I think a -25% loss is less than a 30% loss. If stops were in place, you'd lose more than you wanted but you would have been out... No more losses, the stock is down lower from the Friday close.
    07-02-13 05:47 PM
  6. _dimi_'s Avatar
    I think a -25% loss is less than a 30% loss. If stops were in place, you'd lose more than you wanted but you would have been out... No more losses, the stock is down lower from the Friday close.
    I assume you're currently not invested in BBRY.. however, is there a price you would consider getting in?

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    07-02-13 05:56 PM
  7. matthewriedle's Avatar
    Most of peoples here seem to have NEVER heard of "STOP LOSS" Orders...

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    PUDD!

    =)

    I closed my position this morning. Good luck to all of you.
    I will try and pop in once and a while.
    morganplus8 likes this.
    07-02-13 06:27 PM
  8. morganplus8's Avatar
    Hi Morgan; what are your thoughts on the action today?
    Hi JLagoon!

    There was nothing redeeming about today's trade, it started out weak but held onto some support the first hour, and then it started the $ .10/hr drop the rest of the day with some covering at 4:00 PM. There was nothing to get excited about, the Canadians came back, sold stock from Friday's close and we continued to get negative press. Thank god Heins is okay in his ivory tower there, I personally was worried about his safety.

    When you look at the chart:

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-rim-july-3-2013-chart.jpg

    The RSI (14) = 23 is oversold, the gap down from $ 14.50/shr is huge, the first level of support is around $ 9.00/shr with the next level at $ 8.50/shr., not much lower mind you and we could easily make contact with either of these levels and bounce from there. We found such great support in the past at the 200-EMA but that now becomes resistance so our rally high is likely stopped at that level until some good news hits.

    As for the Bollinger Bands:

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-rim-july-3a-2013-chart.jpg

    You would be hard pressed to find a time when the CCI index was that bearish! Man is it spiking down hard. We have been outside the lower band for 3 trading days on moderately poor news, so the big guys are having fun moving this one down here. Look at today's chart, a 45 degree decline without so much as a pop. I'm still watching for some sign of a bottom here but that indicator will have to come from exhaustion or reversal mid day. Tomorrow is a 1/2 day right? With the market closed for 1 1/2 days, I can't expect too much of anything to happen here. We need some counter news to stop the bleeding Heins!!

    On another note, a NAFTA company with 11 plants within the NAFTA borders has dropped BlackBerry in favour of iPhone sighting that they no longer have any faith in BlackBerry. I have a connection at the top and he said they jumped ship due to the negative press. I asked about the MDM and he wouldn't let me know if BlackBerry got that portion, ..... yet. He also pointed out that there are a large number of employees who still want BlackBerry phones (some hate iPhone or want keys), and unfortunately, they won't allow BYOD. Sad day.
    07-02-13 06:27 PM
  9. greyw0lf01's Avatar
    however, is there a price you would consider getting in?
    Not a price per say, more events. The penultimate ER, TH did the business news circuit to flog BB10, this time around he dumped crummy news on us Friday & off he went on an early holiday.

    I'd probably wait until after the annual shareholders meeting to get a bit of guidance before jumping in. I'd also like to see what Nokia reports next week since they carry the win 8 torch.

    I'd rather buy @ 12/share & feel good about the investment thesis than $9/share because it looks "cheap"...

    If the turnaround happens & BBRY trades @ $40 next year, missing a few bucks now won't matter as much.
    spike12 and _dimi_ like this.
    07-02-13 06:37 PM
  10. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    Took a 900k loss... i am out.....

    Posted via CB10
    07-02-13 06:41 PM
  11. FocusedBerry's Avatar
    Hopefully corporations don't feel like BBRY is going bankrupt; thus, preventing them from upgrading to BES 10. BBRY needs a partner at this stage and there are a lot of companies out there with cash that can help.
    plane6065 likes this.
    07-02-13 06:42 PM
  12. kfh227's Avatar
    I think a -25% loss is less than a 30% loss. If stops were in place, you'd lose more than you wanted but you would have been out... No more losses, the stock is down lower from the Friday close.
    And if the stock immediately went up15% after being stopped out, then what?

    Figure out what the company is worth and pay much less. And wait.

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    07-02-13 06:43 PM
  13. slipstream89's Avatar
    damn..im actually surprised your out

    Took a 900k loss... i am out.....

    Posted via CB10
    07-02-13 06:50 PM
  14. Mikhou's Avatar
    Most of peoples here seem to have NEVER heard of "STOP LOSS" Orders...

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    A stop loss would have been useless in minimizing your losses when the share price is down 25% at the open. You just get stopped out with the herd at market. Please redo your graph with that in mind.


    Going in the earning in a stock with High Volatility (like BBRY, ZNGA AAPL and many others) is the same thing than playing/Gambling "Casino Roulette" without the Fun... It's not Investing or even DayTrading since you have NO CLUE about the Numbers of ER. You have NO EDGE over THE MARKET on ER.

    Also a Stop is not only for ER, if you were in BBRY in APRIL or MAY your Stop should have been placed around $15 to protect your profit.

    BBRY is not a Blue Chip.... More a Casino Chip...than Blue Chip ;-)

    If it is an Investment (BBRY) you choose one of the Worst Stock, if you "DayTrade" you're out everyday with 100% Cash, If you "SwingTrade" you ALWAYS have a STOP and a Target BEFORE you enter in a Trade. Last If your are investing you ALWAYS use STOPS and know BEFORE entering a POS where you will place your Stop.


    How many here have a STOP RIGHT NOW ???? And at which place is your Stop ???


    p.s. I hope it will Help some of you !
    07-02-13 06:54 PM
  15. greyw0lf01's Avatar
    And if the stock immediately went up15% after being stopped out, then what?
    That's a big IF.

    Institutional investors do their homework, price hits a certain level, they exit & move on. A stock drops 30%, take your lumps and move on.

    It can easily drop another 20%, then what are you doing: hoping & praying/praying & hoping?

    If you have a diversified portfolio, a 30% drop hurts but hopefully you have other winners, many more winners. As investors we can't hope that something is going to bail is out of our poor risk mgmt choices other than the tools we have avail: stop loss, protective puts, covered calls to reduce cost basis, short against the box...
    07-02-13 06:55 PM
  16. greyw0lf01's Avatar
    Took a 900k loss... i am out.....
    I'm sorry to hear about the loss; I hope it was only a small part of your overall net worth & you've got other horses in the stable.
    matthewriedle likes this.
    07-02-13 06:59 PM
  17. kfh227's Avatar
    Thinking about some limit orders on 2015 calls. No rush though..


    Posted via CB10
    07-02-13 07:03 PM
  18. plane6065's Avatar
    Took a 900k loss... i am out.....

    Posted via CB10
    What? Seriously?

    Posted via CB10
    07-02-13 07:08 PM
  19. FocusedBerry's Avatar
    I'm not ready to sell. Intuition is telling me to wait still (or I'm just stubborn). I had the Z and I own the Q - These phones have huge potential. We are tanking hard because of the negative sentiment, ER, media bashing and not to mention the people that bought back when the share price hit $6.22 are probably trying to lock in profits if they haven't already.

    Just my 2 cents.
    07-02-13 07:11 PM
  20. slipstream89's Avatar
    agreed, we are still facing the fallout of friday...still need to wait a couple weeks to get a direction. Im going to AGM next week to see whats questions can be answered

    I'm not ready to sell. Intuition is telling me to wait still (or I'm just stubborn). I had the Z and I own the Q - These phones have huge potential. We are tanking hard because of the negative sentiment, ER, media bashing and not to mention the people that bought back when the share price hit $6.22 are probably trying to lock in profits if they haven't already.

    Just my 2 cents.
    07-02-13 07:14 PM
  21. tmb2013's Avatar
    What? Seriously?

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    This does not surprise me at all.
    m
    I am down over $500k on Apple from this time last year.
    07-02-13 07:16 PM
  22. Zarpan's Avatar
    Nice work, but there is one assumption you are making that can not be substantiated - that Nokia is 75% of Windows Phone market share in US. In fact in US HTC has a much stronger brand than Nokia, so their Windows Phones (HTC 8S and HTC 8X) would have had more impact than elsewhere in the world.

    Do you not think it is interesting that Kantar's market share increase tracks a quarter after Nokia's shipment increase, which kind of corroborates my theory. This suggests to me, if you were following Nokia, that their next quarter's US shipments will likely hit a million.
    I think that you're operating off knowledge that is somewhat outdated. As noted in the following two links, HTC was the leading US Windows Phone manufacturer during early 2012, but Nokia rapidly caught up and would have overtaken HTC in US WP installed base in August / September 2012. By April 2013, Nokia represented 66% of WP installed base in the US. Since they had essentially 0% in January 2012, it isn't a stretch to suggest that they made up 75% of WP sales during that time. Sure, this is information from third party companies, but the sample size is going to be much bigger than Kantar's. I believe that Kantar has a continuous panel of 20-30k US households. That would mean maybe 2000 smartphone purchases per month, of which 100 were Windows Phones in their panel.

    AdDuplex Blog: AdDuplex Windows Phone Statistics Report for May 2013
    Microsoft And Nokia Face Mobile Future Together with Windows Phones

    To me, Nokia's Q4 shipment increase was due to them launching the Lumia 920 and 822 in the US. Much of the actual sell-through would have happened in that quarter too due to it encompassing the launch period, plus being the holiday quarter where smartphone sales are typically much higher as well.

    Anyway, that still doesn't explain why Kantar is suggesting that Windows Phone is selling nearly 50% more units than what was ever shipped into North America.
    morganplus8 and bungaboy like this.
    07-02-13 07:19 PM
  23. jon_stark_28's Avatar
    Thanks for the support and insight Morgan. Does anyone have that link to the site that tells how many available shares there are to short?
    morganplus8 likes this.
    07-02-13 07:49 PM
  24. JLagoon's Avatar
    Hi JLagoon!
    Hi Morgan and all; last year, the stock dropped about $4 as well in the same date range. It dropped from $10.58 to $7.30 right after ER (6/28/2012) as well. The difference is that it declined gradually, then gap down. The first date of gap down was 6/29/2012--Friday; the recent one was 6/28/2013--Friday. The bottom was on July 3rd--Tuesday, which must have been a half day trading as well. July 5th 2012 was Thursday. Was the stock as heavily shorted? Was the ER as bad? I don't know how this benefit the TA or anything at all; just want to share.

    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-screen-shot-2013-07-02-8.32.16-pm.jpg

    Here is a closer look on the June 2012 chart:
    The BBRY Café.  [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares]-screen-shot-2013-07-02-8.42.43-pm.jpg

    This is f4cking crazy.
    07-02-13 07:52 PM
  25. Mikhou's Avatar
    And if the stock immediately went up15% after being stopped out, then what?
    That's a big IF.

    Institutional investors do their homework, price hits a certain level, they exit & move on. A stock drops 30%, take your lumps and move on.

    It can easily drop another 20%, then what are you doing: hoping & praying/praying & hoping?

    If you have a diversified portfolio, a 30% drop hurts but hopefully you have other winners, many more winners. As investors we can't hope that something is going to bail is out of our poor risk mgmt choices other than the tools we have avail: stop loss, protective puts, covered calls to reduce cost basis, short against the box...
    You can ALWAYS buyback a Stock (When you have some $$$ or Profit) The Market is Open ~250 Days/Year 52 Weeks/Year.

    The only time you Can't Buy is when you have NO more money or/and lost all your money.



    n.b.: Nobody can predict the "Top" for a Stock.... but everybody knows that ZERO is the bottom !
    07-02-13 08:03 PM
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