Do you see someone with the AURA of Jobs around BBRY ? Usually White Knight are in Disney Books not on Walls Street....
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Do you see someone with the AURA of Jobs around BBRY ? Usually White Knight are in Disney Books not on Walls Street....
i think a lot of it has to do with nationalism. without exception, the most ardent defenders of BB here are proud canadians who are helplessly watching their only big tech company - the once pride of canada - wither away and die. this makes it personal. it's like watching your home team lose the BIG game - you associate their success/failure with your own.
I'm in for whatever it is.
Yes they are fun . . . . as long as the other half doesn't find out! :rotfl:
the Canadian Press has declared BB dead, awaiting the funeral. so, no it is not Canadian Nationalism, does that even exist? It is the reality that the stock is under priced., plain and simple. Now you may not get that, that's OK, most people don't get that. Again that is the reason BB is underpriced.
Man, so basically BBRY sold 2.8M BB10 phones in the first half year of its launch? That is crazy.
BBRY really need sell itself asap, otherwise it will become another Nortel, at least right now it has some cash and patent and service dept worth some money.
Well reading some comments, I believe it's time AGAIN.
FYI, this has been posted for the last time 09-16-2013, 09:43 AM.
I agree BBRY is underpriced right now, but as time goes on, its value is dropping crazy.
It has no way to success that is why all the Presses declared the death.
From what I've read (and my personal research+feelings) your portfolio is not the one I can forecast.
Z10 wil die, replaced by Z30 => "prosumers"
Q10 an Q5 will be completed with a Curve like=> enterprises.
That's my reading as of date.
Disclaimer : I have hundreds of pages/posts/sites late to read to update tough.
edit : I revisited this later:
Z10 => Z5 (or "C") as the enterprise low cost all touch (and end of Z10).
Q10, Q5 for enterprises
Z30 for prosumers.
believing "I am right and the market is wrong" is the height of hubris and usually doesn't end well.
shipped or sold?
If we believed that the market price of any stock is correct, we would never invest in a stock, would we?
We only invest in a stock, whether long or short, when we believe that the market price is not what it should be.
and who are you to judge? other than a troll?
you are confusing speculating vs. investing.
there is no difference, all investing is speculation.
who's judging? how's your strategy working out for you so far?
fine, but then you don't know my strategy
When is a loss not a loss? This is an interesting take on events. This is a composite of other posts on CrackBerry.
Investopedia explains 'Write-Down'
Write-downs are typically reflected in a company's income statement as an above-the-line expense, thereby reducing net income. This, however, is not always a bad thing, since a write-down is simply a paper loss, which, since it lowers net income, will reduce a firm's tax burden. Companies will usually attempt to time large write-downs together, so they can "take a bath" in one reporting period with the hope of quickly recovering in the next period.
Here is a simple example it costs $100 to build a z10, and they build 2,000,000 extra (inventory cost, $200M). They think they are going to sell them at $700 a piece, they get entered into the books as an asset of $1.4B.
Sales are slow, so they still have 200,000 of them, but they adjust there asset value to $200 each, for a $1B writedown.
Show me the loss. It isn't real. If they still sell those BlackBerry's at $200 a piece, they make $200M
It is the same as the playbook write down. It is a paper loss.
They generated $3.6b in revenue, employees were all paid, cash in the bank remained relatively unchanged. The only thing that changed was a received value of the goods they produced....
They broke even except for this write down. This write down didn't cost them a penny...
does not matter, 2.8M in half year, which 100% put the platform in death.
Even for WP, it sold about 14M WP8 phones in the same period.
As a mobile OS platform, it is done.
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i said i wanted to bump the mean median, i thought that was for entertainment. so, you want to use that as weapon in your discussions now? wow, that indeed is low.
That's fair comment I've deleted it.
NOTE: herpa derp... I didn't quote and I don't know how to quote after I post. Anyways this was in response to the suggestion that BB should have gone Android.
I hope you realize rewriting the kernel to be secure and then rewriting Dalvik to be secure would be huge. Even if BB went with android they would essentially have to make the android app player anyways to replace Dalvik with a secure VM. Still a ton of work and keep in mind a lot of manufacturers have their value add skins but that doesn't mean they do well either. But in the end we will never know...
Hi Superfly... just my opinion, not based on clues, but I think the Z10 (or its successor) will stay, and the Q5 will go. The Z30 will be a very big phone, and I know people with smaller hands would prefer a smaller form. It would make sense to offer two different touch screens. Also, I don't see where a Q5 will fit in a government and prosumer lineup.... I think those organizations would just get a Q10. But, it will be interesting to see!
None will go because nothing else is coming down the pipe - that would cost money and increase contractual obligations at a time when they are trying to be lean and attractive to a buyer.
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A few of my friends have BBM on their iPhone... Some workers have said that their employers are implementing them to use BBM as well.
Expecting to see more 8's on the TSX. Fear is that a private buyout occurs that is a lowball 10-12 dollar range. Hopes for a licensing deal. ER is Friday. Arguably TH's biggest ER moment.
Not as knowledgeable on the subject as you, but unfortunately every analyst is making a massive deal out of the "loss". It's too bad really... It's almost as if when you invest you should honestly dumb down and follow the herd.