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- I wish the Z30 was priced around ?400. Just aggressively priced trying to regain market share. The Z10 is around that price in Europe right now. The Q5 is around 300 or less, which is a fair price. In my opinion a cheaper Z10 could lure people away from cheap Windows phones. The Q5 is not doing that job because the majority of the market wants a full touch device.
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."10-20-13 12:04 PMLike 0 - I wish the Z30 was priced around ?400. Just aggressively priced trying to regain market share. The Z10 is around that price in Europe right now. The Q5 is around 300 or less, which is a fair price. In my opinion a cheaper Z10 could lure people away from cheap Windows phones. The Q5 is not doing that job because the majority of the market wants a full touch device.
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."
Q5 - $300; free with contract
Q10 - $500, $49 with contract
Z10 - $350, free with contract
Z30 - $500, $49 with contract
I think BlackBerry doesn't want to play pricing-war because then it's just race to bottom. So, I think one clever way of offering cheaper pricing would have been:
Trade your old BlackBerry (any BlackBerry) + some money (say $250) and get a brand new Q10 or Z10 directly from BlackBerry.
This way, they could officially keep MSRP of $700 or whatever they fancy and yet offer it cheap under trade-up program. This would have easily prompted LOTS and LOTS of existing BB users to upgrade.
I think if they got existing users to upgrade to BB10, they'd find themselves in a very different place. Lots of app developers will get interested in developing apps.
I think they should do whatever it takes to upgrade their existing user base. Offer them cheap (almost at-cost) pricing under the guise of 'trade-up' program or something. Target 25% of existing users upgraded in a year and BlackBerry will find itself in a very different place.10-20-13 12:21 PMLike 5 - Mr. McKinnon is pretty much delusional. Nothign he writes about is really true. Still blaming the US media, comparing BBRY to Linkedin,Facebook Tesla, all companies of the future. Conspiracy theories about the CEO, BoD and PW. I don't think incompetency is the same as a conspiracy, but just as bad....
Now he wants a government bailout to save BBRY from the marketplace. Returning Jim as CEO? The guy who sold all of his shares? Spinning off the BBM product they can't seem to launch and the channels business that is headed nowhere fast will help? Proven business model? Strong developer interest and sales coming? Fantasy land stuff.
I hope this week brings some solid buyout news that spikes the share price for all of you. I think that can happen and hope it does.the_sleuth and anon(4086547) like this.10-20-13 12:51 PMLike 2 - This is my personal opinion but I'd like to see sweet-spot (off-contract, MSRP) pricing as follows -
Q5 - $300; free with contract
Q10 - $500, $49 with contract
Z10 - $350, free with contract
Z30 - $500, $49 with contract
I think BlackBerry doesn't want to play pricing-war because then it's just race to bottom. So, I think one clever way of offering cheaper pricing would have been:
Trade your old BlackBerry (any BlackBerry) + some money (say $250) and get a brand new Q10 or Z10 directly from BlackBerry.
This way, they could officially keep MSRP of $700 or whatever they fancy and yet offer it cheap under trade-up program. This would have easily prompted LOTS and LOTS of existing BB users to upgrade.
I think if they got existing users to upgrade to BB10, they'd find themselves in a very different place. Lots of app developers will get interested in developing apps.
I think they should do whatever it takes to upgrade their existing user base. Offer them cheap (almost at-cost) pricing under the guise of 'trade-up' program or something. Target 25% of existing users upgraded in a year and BlackBerry will find itself in a very different place.
On topic: I believe next week will be interesting, since more potential bids are in the making. I do expect to hear from Mike L.
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."10-20-13 12:55 PMLike 3 - Blackberry management have very bad intentions about the company IMO. Everything is being done purposely to drive the company down at this stage From hand sets pricing to screwing up the XBBM launch. I would be stupid not to see it at this stage. Shame on management . shame on media. For destroying this wonderful canadian tech company.10-20-13 01:18 PMLike 3
- Blackberry management have very bad intentions about the company IMO. Everything is being done purposely to drive the company down at this stage From hand sets pricing to screwing up the XBBM launch. I would be stupid not to see it at this stage. Shame on management . shame on media. For destroying this wonderful canadian tech company.
If that is truly the case, they'd still need shareholder approval.. most of the shareholders still see value in the company, which should inspire management to do better rather than worse. IMO of course
Posted via CB1010-20-13 01:35 PMLike 3 - Words cannot express how much i would like Thorsten Heins to be relieved of his duties. As a CEO, you are the face of your company to the public. Let's compare TSLA CEO, Elon Musk to BBRY CEO, Thorsten Heins. Of course, this is an unfair comparison because Elon Musk is as close as you can get to a real-life Tony Stark, a visionary. But Thorsten Heins, is doing deplorable job representing BBRY to the public. If he truly is still in charge of BlackBerry that is very, very disheartening. Shareholders do not deserve to be treated like this.10-20-13 01:50 PMLike 10
- Sadly, I don't think the majority of shareholders give a rats *** about the company itself. At this point, they are looking to minimize loss, not grow. I hope I'm wrong but only time will tell. I'm of the camp that hopes they go private as a whole to regroup and take care of business away from public scrutiny. Seeing as I no longer have any skin in the game, I'm more concerned with the product I love to use vs my bank account.10-20-13 01:53 PMLike 6
- LoL no issues with cheering up. Kind of hard let the bad driver drive me. I miss judged the management team. It is good company and they have their market. But the management is determined to screw up every little hope that share holders may have. The management team makes money quickly if the sell the company no matter what the price is. I would be voting no and i wish there is another vote soon enough to fire the management team altogether. Enough is enough.10-20-13 01:54 PMLike 4
- Mr. McKinnon is pretty much delusional. Nothign he writes about is really true. Still blaming the US media, comparing BBRY to Linkedin,Facebook Tesla, all companies of the future. Conspiracy theories about the CEO, BoD and PW. I don't think incompetency is the same as a conspiracy, but just as bad....
Now he wants a government bailout to save BBRY from the marketplace. Returning Jim as CEO? The guy who sold all of his shares? Spinning off the BBM product they can't seem to launch and the channels business that is headed nowhere fast will help? Proven business model? Strong developer interest and sales coming? Fantasy land stuff.
I hope this week brings some solid buyout news that spikes the share price for all of you. I think that can happen and hope it does.sidhuk likes this.10-20-13 01:56 PMLike 1 -
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This!
Misfortune seems to be with BlackBerry these days. Times have changed...so did the management. How ever based on the Globe article, I do think Jim B had the right or at least some good ideas and intentions to let BlackBerry step forward as communication device and software company. BBM for all was one of them. Maybe then already late but not too late. My general feeling on the media is that things are being overhyped. "Bad news" is being brought like it cannot get any worse. BlackBerry still is a financially sound company, just not a very big one in comparison with other players. They don't make computers, washing machines, televisions, media players and phones. No just phones and BlackBerry makes some good SMARTPHONES!
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."10-20-13 02:01 PMLike 5 - Those were my initial thoughts but the thing is that the Nexus devices are not meant to be mass consumer devices. Google wants these to be developer devices, hence the low cost. Most mainstream consumers also don't know what a Nexus device is, other than those who follow tech. They also don't know the difference between stock Android and skinned versions by OEMs. Most Nexus phones don't become available for purchase from carriers until the end of their cycle, seen Galaxy Nexus and N4. Not all users know that you can buy these devices unlocked directly from Google. All Android OEMs will continue to sell the devices at the price they are now, unless there is a huge movement to bring device prices down. Personally, I am going to get a N5 because at that price point mixed in with the hardware and ecosystem, it is a no brainer. Also, I am not a fan of skinned Android and the stock experience is the best one out there.
I think this does change what the 2014 Android phones sell for. Samsung and HTC probably don't have a flagship phone coming out this year anyway. But next year they may have to reconsider their prices and I think lower them substantially.10-20-13 02:14 PMLike 0 - It was a leaked price and I assume it was just the US price. Normal markups for taxes and such should be expected in other jurisdictions. But the price is still going to be very very low for a phone that is going to arguably be the best Android phone on the market.Ribes Nigrum likes this.10-20-13 02:17 PMLike 1
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- I wish the Z30 was priced around ?400. Just aggressively priced trying to regain market share. The Z10 is around that price in Europe right now. The Q5 is around 300 or less, which is a fair price. In my opinion a cheaper Z10 could lure people away from cheap Windows phones. The Q5 is not doing that job because the majority of the market wants a full touch device.
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."
BlackBerry Z10 4G STL100-2 (Black) | BlackBerry | Phones
And Q10's for $509 AUD plus delivery
BlackBerry Q10 4G LTE SQN100-3 (Black) | BlackBerry | Phones10-20-13 06:00 PMLike 3 - It seems the Aussies can buy the Z10 for $299 AUD plus delivery.
BlackBerry Z10 4G STL100-2 (Black) | BlackBerry | Phones
And Q10's for $509 AUD plus delivery
BlackBerry Q10 4G LTE SQN100-3 (Black) | BlackBerry | Phones
Posted via CB1010-20-13 07:44 PMLike 0 -
So far so good.sidhuk and Shanerredflag like this.10-20-13 08:01 PMLike 2 - Mr. McKinnon is pretty much delusional. Nothign he writes about is really true. Still blaming the US media, comparing BBRY to Linkedin,Facebook Tesla, all companies of the future. Conspiracy theories about the CEO, BoD and PW. I don't think incompetency is the same as a conspiracy, but just as bad....
Now he wants a government bailout to save BBRY from the marketplace. Returning Jim as CEO? The guy who sold all of his shares? Spinning off the BBM product they can't seem to launch and the channels business that is headed nowhere fast will help? Proven business model? Strong developer interest and sales coming? Fantasy land stuff.
I hope this week brings some solid buyout news that spikes the share price for all of you. I think that can happen and hope it does.
Sent from CB app on Android10-20-13 10:34 PMLike 2 - A must read for everyone here:
BlackBerry Search for Bidders Depends on Patent Stockpile - Bloomberg
A few interesting excerpts:
Given its connections to Apple and an average patent age of just 3.4 years, the portfolio may fetch $2 billion to $3 billion, according to MDB. That value may be lower if BlackBerry has already licensed much of its technology, said Erin-Michael Gill, managing director of MDB Capital. Widely licensed patents have less use for new deals or court challenges.Apple, whose iPhone is now the best-selling smartphone, cites BlackBerry’s technology 1,295 times in its own patent applications, according to MDB Capital Group LLC, a Santa Monica, California-based patent-investment bank. The rivals credit each other more than any other two North American device makers. Companies are required to identify competing technology to ensure they aren’t claiming something already patented.Patents last 20 years from the date of their application, making BlackBerry’s 3.4-year average appealing, Gill said.
“There’s 15-plus years of useful life to this portfolio, which is significant,” he said. “Anybody that cares about Apple is going to care about this portfolio -- including Apple.” Not all patents are created equal. In the typical portfolio, as little as 5 percent of patents have any real value as a fit with other companies, Laurie said. That makes it hard to predict what BlackBerry’s ultimate sales price will be, he said.10-21-13 12:02 AMLike 12 - I have feeling that out of dozen interested parties one of them will surprise us with the higher bid and take this baby over. Just like MS did with Nokia. My guess it will be about $11-12morganplus8 likes this.10-21-13 12:48 AMLike 1
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This!
Misfortune seems to be with BlackBerry these days. Times have changed...so did the management. How ever based on the Globe article, I do think Jim B had the right or at least some good ideas and intentions to let BlackBerry step forward as communication device and software company. BBM for all was one of them. Maybe then already late but not too late. My general feeling on the media is that things are being overhyped. "Bad news" is being brought like it cannot get any worse. BlackBerry still is a financially sound company, just not a very big one in comparison with other players .10-21-13 05:21 AMLike 0 -
Media hyped the death of BlackBerry in my opinion. I do not believe in conspiracy. I believe in market manipulation.
"MegaBlackBerry doesn't fit in the avatar box..."10-21-13 06:28 AMLike 7
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