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- That can easily happen, I like the idea of Cerberus buying the company because that explains why the stock is trading down below the $ 8.80/shr mark. They are driving it down to buy loose or weak shares. Cool that they had to stop the rally in its tracks too! Let's see if they dare to drive it down to $ 7.50/shr again. That must have cost them plenty if they are really working it now.10-02-13 01:12 PMLike 7
- I doubt it. BBM doesn't matter to Wall St, it just isn't going to move the needle much at this point. Certainly not before the end of the year. Looks like the "good news" that Cerebus might be interested has been absorbed. The Street still has BBRY pegged at around $8. Better than it was, but still pathetic and still not even at PW's $9.10-02-13 01:37 PMLike 0
- These guys are clueless and most likely a fake they sent out so many wrong tweets
yeah red again. LoL may be not. red green red green green green
and there are these guys. not sure if they know anything?
Attachment 20717110-02-13 01:40 PMLike 3 - What does it mean?
Fairfax has until this week to deliver an initial draft of a merger agreement with BlackBerry. If it misses that deadline, its due diligence period, scheduled to last until Nov. 4, would be truncated.
Posted via CB1010-02-13 01:48 PMLike 0 -
- yeah red again. LoL may be not. red green red green green green
and there are these guys. not sure if they know anything?
Attachment 20717110-02-13 02:21 PMLike 4 -
- OT: The stock I was watching yesterday went up 100% today... Highest volume on TSX... If only I bought ha.
It could go down 50% in no time though...
Stock Market Quotes | Stock Market Quotes and Symbols10-02-13 03:28 PMLike 4 - OT: The stock I was watching yesterday went up 100% today... Highest volume on TSX... If only I bought ha.
It could go down 50% in no time though...
Stock Market Quotes | Stock Market Quotes and Symbols10-02-13 03:35 PMLike 7 - I'm more confident that there is interest in BlackBerry.
I'm just worried that this company is locked down by Prem already.
After going through the management notes I still didn't get answers to my questions. It seems as though it didn't reveal any thing new.
Posted via CB1010-02-13 04:02 PMLike 4 - I don't get it. The SP was in free fall until word got out that Cerberus was looking at the books. "Support" at $7.50 would mean that the SP was the trigger and word got out instantly. Isn't it more likely that the timing of the info made the SP jump and not the price? The SP didn't bounce off the $7.50 level. It hadn't found a bottom yet.
Say, are you guys making this stuff up?10-02-13 05:04 PMLike 0 - I see, what do they mean by this bit then?
The number of BlackBerry handheld devices recognized decreased by approximately 3.7 million, or 50.0%, to approximately 3.7 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2014, compared to approximately 7.4 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2013. Most of the devices recognized in the second quarter of fiscal 2014 were BlackBerry 7 devices, in part because the Company deferred revenues related to BlackBerry 10 smartphones shipped in the second quarter of fiscal 2014 as they did not meet the revenue recognition criteria that the price be fixed or determinable. See �Critical Accounting Estimates - Revenue Recognition�.
Do they mean some of the phones sold through to customers have not been recognized? So what is that, Returns maybe?
Just kidding. I suspect they went to resellers and carriers for nearly free and resellers/carriers are trying to figure out what price they can get for them. Hence price isn't determinable, but phones are unlikely to come back as this market will clear at some price.10-02-13 05:14 PMLike 0 - biggest bear just upped price target and earning estimates.
Citigroup‘s Jim Suva this evening raised his rating on shares of BlackBerry (BBRY) to Neutral from Sell, and raised his price target to $9, writing that even though he’s not convinced the buyout offer of $9 a share that Fairfax Financial Holding is trying to put together will work, nevertheless his main worry, about erosion of its smartphone platform, has played out.
“Our Long term thesis of market share losses amidst BYOD threat has largely played out,” he writes, “as the stock is now down -75%, -18% and -32% in 2011, 2012 & 2013, (vs the market up flat, +13% & +19%) respectively. We”
On the other hand, “We note the due diligence process could provide additional information on such items as patents and potential monetization opportunities of these patents, details around service contracts with carriers.”
After reviewing the details of the quarterly filing made on Monday, and making minor “tweaks” to his financial model, Suva cut his net loss estimate for this fiscal year ending in February to 91 cents from 93 cents, and cut his loss estimate for next year to 70 cents form 79 cents.Last edited by kadakn01; 10-02-13 at 05:58 PM.
10-02-13 05:18 PMLike 4 - I don't get it. The SP was in free fall until word got out that Cerberus was looking at the books. "Support" at $7.50 would mean that the SP was the trigger and word got out instantly. Isn't it more likely that the timing of the info made the SP jump and not the price? The SP didn't bounce off the $7.50 level. It hadn't found a bottom yet.
Say, are you guys making this stuff up?10-02-13 05:27 PMLike 8 - I don't get it. The SP was in free fall until word got out that Cerberus was looking at the books. "Support" at $7.50 would mean that the SP was the trigger and word got out instantly. Isn't it more likely that the timing of the info made the SP jump and not the price? The SP didn't bounce off the $7.50 level. It hadn't found a bottom yet.
Say, are you guys making this stuff up?
Posted via CB1010-02-13 05:35 PMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorHI gang. Miss you,but no choice.
Read almost everything, looks like we're going to have some action (as scheduled ?).
Aretha has not sing yet ...
Hopefully will have some free time on Friday .
Cheers
SF10-02-13 06:38 PMLike 6 - M8, When do you think it will happen ? I mean can PW offer be accepted before Nov 4th or after 4th ? Does BB need to wait until Nov 4th and see who else is out there with interest ?10-02-13 06:47 PMLike 0
- biggest bear just upped price target and earning estimates.
Citigroup‘s Jim Suva this evening raised his rating on shares of BlackBerry (BBRY) to Neutral from Sell, and raised his price target to $9, writing that even though he’s not convinced the buyout offer of $9 a share that Fairfax Financial Holding is trying to put together will work, nevertheless his main worry, about erosion of its smartphone platform, has played out.
“Our Long term thesis of market share losses amidst BYOD threat has largely played out,” he writes, “as the stock is now down -75%, -18% and -32% in 2011, 2012 & 2013, (vs the market up flat, +13% & +19%) respectively. We”
On the other hand, “We note the due diligence process could provide additional information on such items as patents and potential monetization opportunities of these patents, details around service contracts with carriers.”
After reviewing the details of the quarterly filing made on Monday, and making minor “tweaks” to his financial model, Suva cut his net loss estimate for this fiscal year ending in February to 91 cents from 93 cents, and cut his loss estimate for next year to 70 cents form 79 cents.10-02-13 06:48 PMLike 0 - This Cerberus announcement surprised me. This private equity firm is a Bain Capital type outfit. Although this firm has invested in pharma, government services, retail, real estate, financial services, automotive & transport services, it has no experience in the technology sector. Similar to Fairfax here. It has produced some duds for its investors, primarily Teleglobe and Chrysler.
Out of the two (Cerberus and Fairfax), I would put more faith in Watsa keeping the company whole. Cerberus will carve up BlackBerry for financial gain without a doubt.
It all depends which devil BlackBerry wants to dance with, unfortunately small and long-term investors will be euchred.
From what I read, the other interested party is Mike Lazaridis. We all know Mike L. has his failings. But if he can find other investors, especially a strategic investor then longs can rejoice10-02-13 07:11 PMLike 4 - Some random thoughts :
The problem of BlackBerry is that it is very greedy and lack of business sense.
Look at Amazon, which hasn't made any money at all for the past several years and yet enjoys 150 Billion market cap.
BB10 is a great young platform. However, management should have realized that in order to gain traction, it should price BB10 products aggressively.
I love my Z10 and truly believe it is the best. I have used iPhone 4 and 4s before. To me, those iPhones cannot compete from technology point of view.
Okay let me share something positive for BB10:
The important number for BB10 is the sell through number rather than revenue It generates.
Q4: 0.7M
Q1: 1.4M
Q2: 1.7M
The sell through number improves quarter over quarter even not that dramatically.
If BB10 can fall into strong hands, it will have great future.
Posted via CB1010-02-13 08:11 PMLike 0 - How can you run a smartphone platform that needs more than a year to reach the number of phones that Apple sold on launch weekend? I'm sure everyone here is tired of the comparison but it's ridiculous to think that a platform can catch up with these kinds of sales while trying to maintain a worldwide presence. You need to have enough volume to spread the R&D costs over in order to keep up with the competition.10-02-13 08:17 PMLike 0
- This Cerberus announcement surprised me. This private equity firm is a Bain Capital type outfit. Although this firm has invested in pharma, government services, retail, real estate, financial services, automotive & transport services, it has no experience in the technology sector. Similar to Fairfax here. It has produced some duds for its investors, primarily Teleglobe and Chrysler.
Out of the two (Cerberus and Fairfax), I would put more faith in Watsa keeping the company whole. Cerberus will carve up BlackBerry for financial gain without a doubt.
It all depends which devil BlackBerry wants to dance with, unfortunately small and long-term investors will be euchred.
From what I read, the other interested party is Mike Lazaridis. We all know Mike L. has his failings. But if he can find other investors, especially a strategic investor then longs can rejoice
If we assume Cerberus is truly looking at doing DD on bbry then is it true than bbry must worth more than $9 per share? I base my statement that if it was worth only say $9.50 or less after fees then the hedge fund would not be "sniffing"around.10-02-13 08:30 PMLike 4
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