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- They probably spent the better part of the day in touch with the carriers to gather data in order to provide a factual retort as opposed to just coming out and sayin "nu uhh.... that's not true...."04-11-13 03:42 PMLike 6
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- No, they said it was 'absolutely false' and 'inline with return rates of othersmartphones'. They also implied that they thought the return rates were actually going to be higher than other smartphones. Who cares about a percent here or there, the crux of it is that the story was a falsification of the manipulation of certain facts that DF uncovered.
Why does BlackBerry always respond with general statements and no specifics? Before the earnings call, people said they couldn't release #'s early for legal reasons. At the call, they were very vague and didn't give specifics. It seems a little worrisome that they didn't talk about supposed "great"sales numbers. Their response to this report about returns said that it was on par or better than expectations. That means nothing if we don't know your expectations. I think they are doing more harm than good by being so secretiveShanerredflag and La Emperor like this.04-11-13 03:47 PMLike 2 - Why does BlackBerry always respond with general statements and no specifics? Before the earnings call, people said they couldn't release #'s early for legal reasons. At the call, they were very vague and didn't give specifics. It seems a little worrisome that they didn't talk about supposed "great"sales numbers. Their response to this report about returns said that it was on par or better than expectations. That means nothing if we don't know your expectations. I think they are doing more harm than good by being so secretiveShanerredflag and peter9477 like this.04-11-13 03:48 PMLike 2
- Why does BlackBerry always respond with general statements and no specifics? Before the earnings call, people said they couldn't release #'s early for legal reasons. At the call, they were very vague and didn't give specifics. It seems a little worrisome that they didn't talk about supposed "great"sales numbers. Their response to this report about returns said that it was on par or better than expectations. That means nothing if we don't know your expectations. I think they are doing more harm than good by being so secretive
All false...all effected the stock price...in a negative way.
Nope. No manipulation here lol...it's all BlackBerry's fault.
Posted via CB1004-11-13 03:48 PMLike 11 - They have no need to give us numbers. They said returns are in line with expectations and the same as, if not better in some markets, to other high end phones on the market. You don't send out a statement to the media to respond to allegations unless you are being factual. If it wasn't a true statement, then that would be considered lying and could have legal ramifications considering their public statements will have a direct influence on stock price.04-11-13 03:50 PMLike 4
- Let's be honest...the real damage was and is done to this stock price by fictitious reporting. Remember the 300k devices sold, remember the "dead by Spring" story, remember the "Sales channels filtering in Britan" story...DoD story...etc.
All false...all effected the stock price...in a negative way.
Nope. No manipulation here lol...it's all BlackBerry's fault.
Posted via CB1004-11-13 03:52 PMLike 0 - 04-11-13 03:54 PMLike 1
- Factual issues are fine. Can't argue with those, but in this situation, he is speaking of the falicies that are constantly being published and spread.04-11-13 03:55 PMLike 0
- They have no need to give us numbers. They said returns are in line with expectations and the same as, if not better in some markets, to other high end phones on the market. You don't send out a statement to the media to respond to allegations unless you are being factual. If it wasn't a true statement, then that would be considered lying and could have legal ramifications considering their public statements will have a direct influence on stock price.04-11-13 03:59 PMLike 0
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Oops... I drank one04-11-13 04:00 PMLike 3 - It's time for blackberry to leave backwards and corrupt US exchange and move it to the London exchange. The world is moving away from the US and I think Blackberry needs to do the same. Investors have had enough of the SEC uselessness and it's time to move on. I can only hope THor and gang are thinking of it.Shanerredflag likes this.04-11-13 04:01 PMLike 1
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- of course it does not matter what BB says, the shorters are well organized and people in the US are simply happy to believe any bull packy the shorters put out there, look no further than the latest bull packy:
Steer Clear Of The BlackBerry Dog - Seeking Alpha04-11-13 04:04 PMLike 0 - Let's be honest...the real damage was and is done to this stock price by fictitious reporting. Remember the 300k devices sold, remember the "dead by Spring" story, remember the "Sales channels faltering in Britan" story...DoD story...etc.
All false...all effected the stock price...in a negative way.
Nope. No manipulation here lol...it's all BlackBerry's fault.
Posted via CB1004-11-13 04:05 PMLike 0 - There has to be BIG MONEY behind these kinds of bear attack stories.
Given the number of times that such authors are proven wrong, one would think that their stories would not see anywhere beyond the recycling bin. Yet they get more coverage than most authors would dream of.
The one thing that greases wheels is money and the way that these media outlets run these vicious articles there is lots of it being spent. Competitors and very large investors have the kind of money that's required to pull off these heists.04-11-13 04:09 PMLike 2 - You're right. Why would they aggressively defend themselves? They should be very conservative in their approach. It's worked out so well the last few years! They had every opportunity to give more specific sales numbers at their earnings call and they didn't. Everything is clouded in secrecy with them. It is a fact that they have lost 4 million customers in the last 2 quarters. That is just about the only concrete number that I've heard from them.04-11-13 04:09 PMLike 4
- Awwwww, but its been so long since we had a pet troll, I think someone here today could fit the bill.....Shanerredflag likes this.04-11-13 04:11 PMLike 1
- You're right. Why would they aggressively defend themselves? They should be very conservative in their approach. It's worked out so well the last few years! They had every opportunity to give more specific sales numbers at their earnings call and they didn't. Everything is clouded in secrecy with them. It is a fact that they have lost 4 million customers in the last 2 quarters. That is just about the only concrete number that I've heard from them.04-11-13 04:12 PMLike 4
- You're right. Why would they aggressively defend themselves? They should be very conservative in their approach. It's worked out so well the last few years! They had every opportunity to give more specific sales numbers at their earnings call and they didn't. Everything is clouded in secrecy with them. It is a fact that they have lost 4 million customers in the last 2 quarters. That is just about the only concrete number that I've heard from them.
Did you lose a bundle from RIMM's downfall? Just curious because you seem to be attacking BBRY from every angle.
No skin off my nose either way but I am curious because of your tenacity, it's unyielding.Komoto likes this.04-11-13 04:15 PMLike 1 -
- UPDATE: BlackBerry has issued a statement denying reports of excessively high return rates. The vendor says Z10 returns to date have been in line with other premium smartphones, and have even been better than expected in some regions.04-11-13 04:22 PMLike 4
- Are markets in London, Paris or Toronto really any better? I still don't see illegal manipulation. Its how it goes. We all know it. Anyone who traded off that "Report " was a fool. 50M shares off of that? Bargains for you all!!! Is it really much different than Kevin tweeting that he heard Q10 sales will be great? Should we investigate his source? Of course not. Just be aware and act accordingly. They can't force you to buy or sell!
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