[erodenero]

am i too understand that they say essentially every mobile manufacturer besides google and android is a sell? BBRY is over 3X the target price of these idiots, and even at its lowest point didnt break to under $5. what idiocy...

Sounds like Kim Choi is coming out of the woodwork!
I think its painfully obvious they're long aapl....

[matthewriedle]

I've argued against this point before. I have my entire basket in BB. Everyone has a different risk tolerance, if you can afford the loss and it won't effect your lifestyle losing a large portion of your investment, then it shouldn't be so worrisome.

Fair Enough - to each their own.
That is not investing though, just to be clear - that is gambling.

[leafs123]

Good interview with TH.

BlackBerry chief executive Thorsten Heins plans broader array of smartphones | Globalnews.ca

[Komoto]

did you see the cnbc thing - bbry vs IBM.

They did it again. The guy arguing the case was bullish on IBM and the guy that was meant to be arguing the case for BBRY was bearish on BBRY.

It's amazing how they keep making this mistake! Does no one else find it a little strange.

[rebekahlynnharrison]

[QUOTE=Kid Vibe;8245534]I've argued against this point before. I have my entire basket in BB. Everyone has a different risk tolerance, if you can afford the loss and it won't effect your lifestyle losing a large portion of your investment, then it shouldn't be so worrisome.

Someone one said: if you see a ball pitched in your sweet spot, put all the might you have into hitting it as far and hard
as you can. :-)

BB is not even a 1/4 of our investments, so no worries. And my risk tolerance runs between 10-20% and I don't
preset stop losses just alerts slightly above my risk, so I can tune in and assess before acting.
That said, I believe keeping some liquidity to use for some unforeseen landslides. :-)

[lcjr]

Sorry, but reading your posts compelled me to register. I am long on BB myself. From what you have been saying here though I fear you are putting way too many eggs in one basket which is not a wise thing to do in life or in investing.
I think that's the lesson you need to take with you here.

I disagree. There are different types of investors here. What you believe may work best for you, but I'm quite confident in how I invest and the methodology best suited for my needs.

[lcjr]

Fair Enough - to each their own.
That is not investing though, just to be clear - that is gambling.

How so? If I only own shares in BB right now, I'm gambling vice investing? Interesting..

[Andrew4life]

did you see the cnbc thing - bbry vs IBM.

They did it again. The guy arguing the case was bullish on IBM and the guy that was meant to be arguing the case for BBRY was bearish on BBRY.

It's amazing how they keep making this mistake! Does no one else find it a little strange.

Yeah, it was funny. The guy even said it. "I'm not sure who set up the brackets, but I'm probably not the guy to be arguing the bull case here."
The guy is probably like, huh?
Good to see the guest host guy did say he would prefer BlackBerry. Which is the very obvious selection between BlackBerry and IBM. IBM's 1 year growth is like 1% while BlackBerry is 6%(understandably after tumbling much more) but if things go well, things will sky rocket.

[OMGitworks]

I swear that the options prices at this time make no sense. we are up almost 1% today, and the $14 april 20 options only went up less than 2%, for a cost of $1.54 each. (in other words, betting on a stock price of only 25c (2%) higher in 2.5 weeks from now..

I haven't looked closely at the options lately, but as you get closer to expiry, things can tighten up. Time is not generally your friend on options.
is there a reson for this? Usually the options tend to swing about 3-7X as strongly as the stock value, and I easily imagine a stock price of $17 in the next 13 trading sessions

[Komoto]

for people who argue about diversification, it all depends on the investor.
I am 24, with no family, no girlfriend and a steady job that more than covers my expenses.
I had some money which i piled into BBRY. I believe in the business, product and management team. Sure it is high risk, but i have no commitments and, quite literally if i lost all that money tomorrow i wouldnt care, it would have no effect on my life.
Ofcourse it is high risk, but i am under no illusions that it is.

Now if i had a mortgage, a family etc my investing strategy would be very different....

[joe.miller]

Sounds like Kim Choi is coming out of the woodwork!
I think its painfully obvious they're long aapl....

Only...they're not. They also rate AAPL "Sell".

[chrysaurora]

Some more BB bashing going on here: BlackBerry 10 tells your friends when you’re watching porn | Mobile | Geek.com
They lie about the fact that, by default, its disabled!
LOL

[mikev85]

Wow volume is extremely low today

[Andrew4life]

How so? If I only own shares in BB right now, I'm gambling vice investing? Interesting..

Investing IS gambling.
Dictionary definition of investment:

A thing that is worth buying because it may be profitable or useful in the future.

It is just a different level of gambling because you aren't leaving it all to chance but rather using facts, trends, data, analytical tools, etc, to determine whether or not a certain stock is going to do well or not.

I'd say most of us here would agree that going to a casino and playing poker is "gambling", but what if you were card counting? Based on what cards have been drawn and the mathematical probabilities of a certain card being drawn next, you could actually turn a profit. After all, you only need to win >50% of the time to make a profit. (yes, I'm simplifying it a bit, but the fundamentals are there).

[Andrew4life]

Some more BB bashing going on here: BlackBerry 10 tells your friends when you’re watching porn | Mobile | Geek.com
They lie about the fact that, by default, its disabled!
LOL

I blame CrackBerry for posting this on their site first.
Stupid move since they did not clarify that it is OFF by default.

[helopilot06]

I disagree. There are different types of investors here. What you believe may work best for you, but I'm quite confident in how I invest and the methodology best suited for my needs.

I agree I have always placed my eggs in one basket when investing and to date have not lost. Every stock I have bought has increased in value. Even my dollar stocks jumped to 8 or 9$ before selling. You have to be comfortable with your personal investing style and that's what matters. If. You do your homework and consider your investments carefully you will b fine. Eventually I am going to take a hit and that's fine. But it's a style I'm comfortable with.

[Tinomane]

I swear that the options prices at this time make no sense. we are up almost 1% today, and the $14 april 20 options only went up less than 2%, for a cost of $1.54 each. (in other words, betting on a stock price of only 25c (2%) higher in 2.5 weeks from now.

is there a reson for this? Usually the options tend to swing about 3-7X as strongly as the stock value, and I easily imagine a stock price of $17 in the next 13 trading sessions.

I noticed the same thing. I think after the earnings report ppl are really wary about buying calls on bbry now. There was an insane amount of volume on calls the days before earnings and all those people lost money when the report came out. The earnings report was a beat in almost every area and the stock should have gone up A LOT. The shorts were able to keep the share price down and thousands of contracts expired worthless.

Options buyers know that market manipulators can easily pull the same crap on future expiry days. I personally would not buy short term calls at the moment, however the LEAPS are an absolute steal right now. Look at the Jan 2014 $25 call. They're .85c that is insane. Great time to be a buyer for long calls.

[bungaboy]

for people who argue about diversification, it all depends on the investor.
I am 24, with no family, no girlfriend and a steady job that more than covers my expenses.
I had some money which i piled into BBRY. I believe in the business, product and management team. Sure it is high risk, but i have no commitments and, quite literally if i lost all that money tomorrow i wouldnt care, it would have no effect on my life.
Ofcourse it is high risk, but i am under no illusions that it is.

Now if i had a mortgage, a family etc my investing strategy would be very different....

I have 12 Companies that I am invested in. I am debt free, no mortgages, etc. BB is by far my biggest investment. I am long on BB.

BlackBerry . . . . . me love you long time.

[rebekahlynnharrison]

Let me also add that giving examples of
your worst losses not only helps revive the lesson,
but may help others come to grips with theirs.
Too often we talk our gains, but keep our losses in the closet.
There, I'm done. lol

[Andrew4life]

Let me also add that giving examples of
your worst losses not only helps revive the lesson,
but may help others come to grips with theirs.
Too often we talk our gains, but keep our losses in the closet.
There, I'm done. lol

Also better to be burned while young and debtless, than older and in debt.

First time I bought options they expired worthless.
Now I am more careful when buying options. If at all. (well, maybe a little......my next option purchase was 10x larger and will expire Jan 2014)
hmmmm

[Scott Lefebvre]

All the good news out the last few days and the SP just sitting idle WTF

[JonCBK]

Ugh, all this talk about buying options. That stuff is too hard, I doubt most of the folks here should be doing that. If you want, buy the stock. If you want to get frisky, buy on margin. But trying to predict the direction a stock will move is hard enough. But at least that starts with having a 50/50 chance. Having to predict that movement within a certain fairly limited time frame. Well now I'm pretty sure you are playing too tough a game and the odds are deeply against you.

[Charles Martin1]

did you see the cnbc thing - bbry vs IBM.

They did it again. The guy arguing the case was bullish on IBM and the guy that was meant to be arguing the case for BBRY was bearish on BBRY.

It's amazing how they keep making this mistake! Does no one else find it a little strange.

I'm amazed that the SEC doesn't do anything about these blatant activities.

[Tinomane]

Ugh, all this talk about buying options. That stuff is too hard, I doubt most of the folks here should be doing that. If you want, buy the stock. If you want to get frisky, buy on margin. But trying to predict the direction a stock will move is hard enough. But at least that starts with having a 50/50 chance. Having to predict that movement within a certain fairly limited time frame. Well now I'm pretty sure you are playing too tough a game and the odds are deeply against you.

I think buying stock on margin is way more risky. Unless you set a tight stop loss you can lose everything, whereas with options you just lose the premium. You can buy LEAPS and if the stocks goes to 0 you only lose the premium, and if you bought the same amount worth in actual shares you lose it all.

The great thing with options is you can use way less capital to control a lot of shares.

[Charles Martin1]

All the good news out the last few days and the SP just sitting idle WTF

We're up 1.4% now