The BBRY Café. [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares!]
View Poll Results: Did you buy shares ?
- Voters
- 1129. You may not vote on this poll
- I think the distinction is that Samsung Safe technology is really for IT people. The average user doesn't really care. Just like how many people have been saying the security on the BlackBerry phones are useless to the average consumer. Not sure what Samsung is trying to do by setting up a booth. Are they hoping some IT people will walk by?bungaboy likes this.02-27-13 07:31 AMLike 1
- Sith_ApprenticeMod Team EmeritusI believe your numbers are way too conservative. By making the assumption that Canada sold 2 units per day, you dont take into account for initial launch units sold or pre order units sold. Additionally, if you're talking about number of days it's been up for sale, the Z10s been up for sale for 19 days in Canada and not 14 given that Q4 ends in March 2. I think you should recalculate your figures given these details.bungaboy likes this.02-27-13 07:37 AMLike 1
- I enjoyed all of the "estimates" but wouldn't it be great if BBRY just told us what the numbers were? The market HATES uncertainty. Speaking in percentages and in comparison to unknown expectations is not helpful. Fact is, none of us really have an basis for any guess that could be even close to reliable. Channel checks and anecdotal evidence is interesting but not reliable. I am going to guess they will make the 300,000 estimate look as foolish as it is, but will they hit 1M or 1.5M?????Sith_Apprentice and bungaboy like this.02-27-13 07:41 AMLike 2
- I believe your numbers are way too conservative. By making the assumption that Canada sold 2 units per day, you dont take into account for initial launch units sold or pre order units sold. Additionally, if you're talking about number of days it's been up for sale, the Z10s been up for sale for 19 days in Canada and not 14 given that Q4 ends in March 2. I think you should recalculate your figures given these details.bungaboy likes this.02-27-13 07:43 AMLike 1
- The problem is that... launch figures are much different. For example, alot of retailers sold 100-200 units at launch and let's assume only half of them sold that many on launch given that the other half of carriers had supply constraints. That's 250,000 units sold on launch day. Im using DUDEBBs "5000" stores value, but this is an example of how numbers are way too understated. This is ONLY Canada too. If you include UK, UAE, and all those other countries, it should be way more than 500k. In addition, keep in mind that EVERY UNIT SHIPPED COUNTS AS A UNIT SOLD. Last time I checked Bloomberg, consensus estimate was 1.5 million units sold, much further away from 300k units sold. Of course I do believe this number may have been reduced to approximately 1 million due to the delayed US launch. So all of you who are calculating sales.... IT'S NO WHERE NEAR 300K. MKM's ********.02-27-13 07:50 AMLike 0
- The problem is that... launch figures are much different. For example, alot of retailers sold 100-200 units at launch and let's assume only half of them sold that many on launch given that the other half of carriers had supply constraints. That's 250,000 units sold on launch day. Im using DUDEBBs "5000" stores value, but this is an example of how numbers are way too understated. This is ONLY Canada too. If you include UK, UAE, and all those other countries, it should be way more than 500k. In addition, keep in mind that EVERY UNIT SHIPPED COUNTS AS A UNIT SOLD. Last time I checked Bloomberg, consensus estimate was 1.5 million units sold, much further away from 300k units sold. Of course I do believe this number may have been reduced to approximately 1 million due to the delayed US launch. So all of you who are calculating sales.... IT'S NO WHERE NEAR 300K. MKM's ********.
ppl here keep saying its way more than 300k because thats what company slashed their estimates to. even if they sell more than 300k units its not a big deal.....they have to beat analysts expectations and i dont think 300k was the expectation02-27-13 07:55 AMLike 0 - I agree with you. On the other hand, I like how low expectations are getting to be. Even some of our own bulls have been blind sided by the recent negativity. I myself admit I was starting to fall for the negativity, which was what pushed me to do my own channel checks through calling, interviewing carriers and doing some legit number crunching. After personally observing demand and getting solid evidence from carriers, I am standing proud as a bull. All I can say is that this negativity definitely is setting up nicely for BBRY and I think it's making it easier for BBRY to beat earnings earnings and surprise.bungaboy likes this.02-27-13 08:03 AMLike 1
- I get the feeling that 1 million sell-through is the unspoken target. Less than that is good, **-hum, great, whatever, and we continue on with the uncertainty. More than 1 Million will cause some people to go silent. Unfortunately, the real questions are how much cash have they burned through and how many BB7 devices did they sell. The BB10 units sold/shipped may not be as important as the cash and BB7 subscribers. I have a funny feeling that March 28 will have little effect on the volatility of the SP.
I'm not seeing a "TON" of advertising... certainly lots around... but only if you are aware of it. I'm hoping this means that they are being careful with that 2.X billion and using it wisely.02-27-13 08:06 AMLike 0 - I get the feeling that 1 million sell-through is the unspoken target. Less than that is good, **-hum, great, whatever, and we continue on with the uncertainty. More than 1 Million will cause some people to go silent. Unfortunately, the real questions are how much cash have they burned through and how many BB7 devices did they sell. The BB10 units sold/shipped may not be as important as the cash and BB7 subscribers. I have a funny feeling that March 28 will have little effect on the volatility of the SP.
I'm not seeing a "TON" of advertising... certainly lots around... but only if you are aware of it. I'm hoping this means that they are being careful with that 2.X billion and using it wisely.02-27-13 08:11 AMLike 0 -
But, I've been really impressed with the amount of blackberry ads I've seen on tv in canada. The only thing I wish is that they'd have more variants of them. It gets kind of annoying seeing the same one over and over while watching the Raps.02-27-13 08:21 AMLike 0 - per a post on twitter.... $GS recommends to buy $AMZN, $AAPL & $BBRY. Sell $NOK.
Trying to find confirmation02-27-13 08:28 AMLike 0 -
-
-
-
- Got a bunch of BBRY stock last fall, average around $7.5. Got to hold and test the Z10 while up in Montreal at the weekend and talked to a bunch of stores / sales staff, all mostly positive feedback on the device and sales, so decided to jump in again this morning $12.93 and take another punt. I believe in the product / company and am in for the long haul.02-27-13 08:39 AMLike 7
- I get the feeling that 1 million sell-through is the unspoken target. Less than that is good, **-hum, great, whatever, and we continue on with the uncertainty. More than 1 Million will cause some people to go silent. Unfortunately, the real questions are how much cash have they burned through and how many BB7 devices did they sell. The BB10 units sold/shipped may not be as important as the cash and BB7 subscribers. I have a funny feeling that March 28 will have little effect on the volatility of the SP.
I'm not seeing a "TON" of advertising... certainly lots around... but only if you are aware of it. I'm hoping this means that they are being careful with that 2.X billion and using it wisely.Last edited by DragonFlyer; 02-27-13 at 08:52 AM.
02-27-13 08:41 AMLike 0 - Getting the sneaking suspicion the stock won't stay low long enough for me to get my tax rebate back.02-27-13 08:43 AMLike 0
- Got a bunch of BBRY stock last fall, average around $7.5. Got to hold and test the Z10 while up in Montreal at the weekend and talked to a bunch of stores / sales staff, all mostly positive feedback on the device and sales, so decided to jump in again this morning $12.93 and take another punt. I believe in the product / company and am in for the long haul.02-27-13 08:43 AMLike 0
- Where abouts are you from. Here in Ontario, Canada i see it everywhere. If I'm watching tv there are lots of commercials. I've seen a couple of shows where the z10 pops up on the lower corner of the screen. The social media seems to be plastered with it. When out and about there are banners and posters scattered around. Compaired to previos launches when the only time I would see an ad was during a hockey game this is amazing. Even the high exposer at the places of sale have blown all previous launches away.02-27-13 08:49 AMLike 0
- I agree with you. On the other hand, I like how low expectations are getting to be. Even some of our own bulls have been blind sided by the recent negativity. I myself admit I was starting to fall for the negativity, which was what pushed me to do my own channel checks through calling, interviewing carriers and doing some legit number crunching. After personally observing demand and getting solid evidence from carriers, I am standing proud as a bull. All I can say is that this negativity definitely is setting up nicely for BBRY and I think it's making it easier for BBRY to beat earnings earnings and surprise.
I think so too. I believe Thor and staff are not too concerned about the BS that's floating around because they have great bit of news to release.02-27-13 08:50 AMLike 3 - totally agree...thats why i think its important that the stock stays somewhat healthy until ER and if the news is good we see a nice increase02-27-13 08:56 AMLike 0
-
- I get the feeling that 1 million sell-through is the unspoken target. Less than that is good, **-hum, great, whatever, and we continue on with the uncertainty. More than 1 Million will cause some people to go silent. Unfortunately, the real questions are how much cash have they burned through and how many BB7 devices did they sell. The BB10 units sold/shipped may not be as important as the cash and BB7 subscribers. I have a funny feeling that March 28 will have little effect on the volatility of the SP.
I'm not seeing a "TON" of advertising... certainly lots around... but only if you are aware of it. I'm hoping this means that they are being careful with that 2.X billion and using it wisely.
Absolutely, the burn rate will seem to have been more than necessary but that's only because they got screwed out of the US(SR). Some quack analysts will pounce on it and we have December all over again.02-27-13 08:57 AMLike 0
- Forum
- Popular at CrackBerry
- General BlackBerry News, Discussion & Rumors
- BBRY
The BBRY Café. [Formerly: I support BBRY and I buy shares!]
Similar Threads
-
The importance of a removable battery.
By krzyabn in forum BlackBerry KEY2Replies: 45Last Post: 04-15-19, 10:12 PM -
Motion support - Vibration no longer working and I need advice!
By bunnyraider in forum BlackBerry MotionReplies: 1Last Post: 04-12-19, 09:42 PM -
Will BlackBerry Launcher ever give us the option to swipe up?
By ikeike859 in forum BlackBerry Android OSReplies: 8Last Post: 04-12-19, 06:27 PM -
In MIXplorer, what is the "archive?"
By RLeeSimon in forum Android AppsReplies: 3Last Post: 04-12-19, 05:00 PM -
Skype Preview brings screen sharing to Android and iOS
By CrackBerry News in forum CrackBerry.com News Discussion & ContestsReplies: 0Last Post: 04-12-19, 01:51 PM
Tags for this Thread
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD