[spiller]

Doesn't refute they didn't give rcmp non BES global key access which was potentially used by rcmp with just an 'awareness' email to BlackBerry since 2010.



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[Andrew4life]

In a nutshell, you got to pay to play.

We will compromise if you buy out basic phones, but we won't if you buy out Enterprise grade security.

Money...money money money.....



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[app_Developer]

A lot better then what I wrote! That's why I leave it to the pros to take care of the matter. Cheers!

But is he saying that BB can decrypt BES messages if served with a court order? I think they actually can't, because BB doesn't have the keys, but he didn't make that clear at all. How is BES messaging consistent with his commitment to working with law enforcement?

Also, he addressed BES users, but what is he saying about consumer BBM users who don't have BES or BBM Protected?

[Iggy City]

In a nutshell, you got to pay to play.

We will compromise if you buy out basic phones, but we won't if you buy out Enterprise grade security.

Money...money money money.....



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Of course, what did you think BlackBerry was different than any other company?

It's always about money, this is capitalism after all.

[_dimi_]

But is he saying that BB can decrypt BES messages if served with a court order? I think they actually can't, because BB doesn't have the keys, but he didn't make that clear at all. How is BES messaging consistent with his commitment to working with law enforcement?

Also, he addressed BES users, but what is he saying about consumer BBM users who don't have BES or BBM Protected?

Is it really that important? BES is the gold standard for companies, governments,.. who are willing to pay for security. If there are suspicious clients that attract too much attention from the government, BlackBerry could ditch them just like banks do when they see suspicious money transfers.

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[bbjdog]

But is he saying that BB can decrypt BES messages if served with a court order? I think they actually can't, because BB doesn't have the keys, but he didn't make that clear at all. How is BES messaging consistent with his commitment to working with law enforcement?

Also, he addressed BES users, but what is he saying about consumer BBM users who don't have BES or BBM Protected?

He did make it clear, but sorry to say! I will not comment on it. Use private chat, there and gone. Sorry app_Developer, but I'm staying out.

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[Corbu]

JC's post getting some play...
BlackBerry CEO responds to critics' RCMP encryption key concerns | CTV News
BlackBerry won?t allow 'backdoor access' to server, says CEO - BNN News

Plus a follow-up post from those guys:
BlackBerry Won't Confirm or Deny it Gave Encryption Keys to Law Enforcement | Motherboard

[_dimi_]

Learn about BlackBerry lawful access principles
BlackBerry*lawful access principles

The carriers� capabilities are limited to the strict context of lawful access and national security requirements as governed by the country�s judicial oversight and rules of law.

The carriers� capabilities must be technology- and vendor-neutral, allowing no greater access to BlackBerry consumer services than the carriers and regulators already impose on BlackBerry�s competitors and other similar communications technology companies.

No changes to the security architecture for BlackBerry Enterprise Server customers since, contrary to any rumors, the security architecture is the same around the world and BlackBerry*truly has no ability to provide its customers� encryption keys.

Also driving BlackBerry�s position is the fact that strong encryption is a fundamental commercial requirement for any country to attract and maintain international business anyway and similarly strong encryption is currently used pervasively in traditional VPNs on both wired and wireless networks in order to protect corporate and government communications.

BlackBerry*maintains a consistent global standard for lawful access requirements that does not include special deals for specific countries.

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[bbjdog]

JC's post getting some play...
BlackBerry CEO responds to critics' RCMP encryption key concerns | CTV News
BlackBerry won?t allow 'backdoor access' to server, says CEO - BNN News

Plus a follow-up post from those guys:
BlackBerry Won't Confirm or Deny it Gave Encryption Keys to Law Enforcement | Motherboard

Let's see what play this gets on the evening news? I'm also looking forward to those not so professional side kicks giving there cents worth.

OT: joke of the day, oil price!

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[_dimi_]

Fair play from Imperial Capital. PRIV is not what they had forecasted. This is part of their report in December:

Analysts at Imperial Capital maintained an in-line rating on the stock while raising the price target from $7 to $9, following third-quarter earnings. Imperial Capital believes that BlackBarry is making good progress with its recent turnaround strategy and has seen robust growth in software license revenue. The research firm has backed the company to see improvement in hardware revenue on the back of its Android phone.

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[Corbu]

Two more:
BlackBerry CEO John Chen says tech firms have duty to co-operate with police - Canadian Business - Your Source For Business News
BlackBerry Responds To Reports Of Collaboration With Canadian Police

[Corbu]

Let's see what play this gets on the evening news?

Not a peep, I bet.

[_dimi_]

Morgan - I remember you stated that BlackBerry as a SW company would have somewhere between .60-.70 in EPS? I can't find the original post, but could you please in a nutshell explain how you arrive there? How will the 30 percent increase affect EPS and wouldn't a MOBL acquisition be smart because of the synergies it offers?

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[bbjdog]

Not a peep, I bet.

If I give them ten dollars do you think they will. Lol

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[Corbu]

If I give them ten dollars do you think they will. Lol

A banana will do.

[bbjdog]

A banana will do.

Thanks for the laughter!



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[app_Developer]

Is it really that important? BES is the gold standard for companies, governments,.. who are willing to pay for security. If there are suspicious clients that attract too much attention from the government, BlackBerry could ditch them just like banks do when they see suspicious money transfers.

So it's one thing to dump a customer, it's another to help law enforcement to decrypt messages.

Here's why it matters: if I'm going to buy or renew BES, I want to know that BB cannot (with any reasonable amount of effort) decrypt my messages. In other words, I want to be sure there BB does not have access to my keys. Again, I believe the answer is that BB does not actually have access to our keys. That's good, because that is what any major customer will want to know. That's an important selling point of BES.

BUT, the issue is when Chen makes these statements about cooperating with law enforcement to decrypt messages. I think what Chen said is that this isn't possible for BB to do with BES. Again, that's good for BES customers, but then Chen should back off on his statements about cooperating with law enforcement. Essentially what he is saying is that they won't protect criminal or terrorist activity unless the criminal org pays for BES and manages their own keys.

If the criminal has a BES account, Chen is saying he actually can't decrypt content for law enforcement. Isn't that correct?

Then for the consumer case, Chen is also now admitting that consumers have end to end encryption in WA, but not in the normal BBM app on their phones. Isn't that also correct?

[_dimi_]

So it's one thing to dump a customer, it's another to help law enforcement to decrypt messages.

Here's why it matters: if I'm going to buy or renew BES, I want to know that BB cannot (with any reasonable amount of effort) decrypt my messages. In other words, I want to be sure there BB does not have access to my keys. Again, I believe the answer is that BB does not actually have access to our keys. That's good, because that is what any major customer will want to know. That's an important selling point of BES.

BUT, the issue is when Chen makes these statements about cooperating with law enforcement to decrypt messages. I think what Chen said is that this isn't possible for BB to do with BES. Again, that's good for BES customers, but then Chen should back off on his statements about cooperating with law enforcement. Essentially what he is saying is that they won't protect criminal or terrorist activity unless the criminal org pays for BES and manages their own keys.

If the criminal has a BES account, Chen is saying he actually can't decrypt content for law enforcement. Isn't that correct?

Then for the consumer case, Chen is also now admitting that consumers have end to end encryption in WA, but not in the normal BBM app on their phones. Isn't that also correct?

So if a customer is using BES and this particular customer refuses to provide a law enforcement agency with e.g. the encryption keys that are in their possession only, BlackBerry could drop this customer, thus helping law enforcement agencies. Different audience, different rules.

Banks do it all the time without telling their customers why they're dropping them as an account. They just don't want the hassle with the government.

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[bungaboy]

So if a customer is using BES and this particular customer refuses to provide a law enforcement agency with e.g. the encryption keys that are in their possession only, BlackBerry could drop this customer, thus helping law enforcement agencies. Different audience, different rules.

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Suck and blow at the same time, don't they?

[bbjdog]

Direct sales

http://blogs.blackberry.com/2016/04/...sales-program/

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[bbjdog]

From the home page.

http://crackberry.com/snag-unlocked-...-priv-just-450

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[CDM76]

But is he saying that BB can decrypt BES messages if served with a court order? I think they actually can't, because BB doesn't have the keys, but he didn't make that clear at all. How is BES messaging consistent with his commitment to working with law enforcement?

Also, he addressed BES users, but what is he saying about consumer BBM users who don't have BES or BBM Protected?

I'm sorry but this honestly just sounds like you are trying to bait people into an argument.

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[CDM76]

Let's see what play this gets on the evening news?

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Absolutely nothing. BlackBerry missed the train here. If they responded in a timely manner and on point then the media likely would have given their side too. But, BlackBerry was caught asleep at the wheel. The media has moved on as they've done the damaged intended.

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[app_Developer]

I'm sorry but this honestly just sounds like you are trying to bait people into an argument.

Someone said that Chen had made a great statement. I'm pointing out they didn't really answer some important questions here.

I think rather than outflank Apple to the one side they chose, they really should have outflanked them to the other side with this statement, since that's much more consistent with their BES strategy (and the reality of the solution they actually provide to businesses and govt). So emphasize the strength of *not* being able to decrypt those messages since that is how BB actually makes money and it is arguably their strongest technical advantage of all. Instead they headline this statement with the opposite of that. I don't understand it.

Where I come from that's called a discussion. Of course I also don't live in an echo chamber, so maybe I don't know.

It seems people are saying all is fine, but I'm asking didn't Chen just throw the ball into the teeth of the defense (again!) when a better play was available on the other side of the field?

[bbjdog]

Things we already know, but those who still have questions and must find reason when there is none. From my TD alert.

Blackberry CEO says tech firms should comply with lawful access requests
2016-04-18 05:55:00 PM ET (Reuters)
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TORONTO, April 18 (Reuters) - Tech companies should comply with lawful requests to access protected data, BlackBerry Chief Executive John Chen said on Monday, in thinly veiled criticism of rival Apple Inc for its recent standoff with the FBI.

Chen made the comment in a blog posting after reports by Vice and Motherboard last week that threw a spotlight on a 2014 case in which Canadian law enforcement authorities used intercepted messages between some BlackBerry devices to unravel an organized crime network.

The devices were consumer phones that were not protected by BlackBerry's BES server, which helps secure any devices running within corporate networks.

"We have long been clear in our stance that tech companies as good corporate citizens should comply with reasonable lawful access requests," said Chen in the post.[http://blck.by/1qUkdJg ]

"We are indeed in a dark place when companies put their reputations above the greater good," said Chen, who is known to not shy away from publicly sparring with rivals.

Chen, who maintains the BES is "impenetrable" and that only BlackBerry's clients can grant access to messages secured by it, has weighed in on the lawful access topic a number of times in the last few months, including in another blog last December. [http://blck.by/1k4jy46 ]

He also commented on the topic at a media roundtable earlier this month, when asked to comment about BlackBerry's security capabilities in light of the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's hacking of an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters. Apple had declined to help authorities unlock the encrypted device.

"Not that we can crack every phone, but from the standpoint of BlackBerry's philosophy, policy and principles, we will help whenever there is a formal subpoena that comes to us and we have been doing it for many, many, years," said Chen.

"But since we don't have a backdoor and since the encryption technology has now gotten to a point where we may, or may not be able to penetrate it, we will have the same difficulties, but we won't have the same attitude about it and it won't be front page news."

"Of course we are not Apple, so it may or may not make front page news either," added Chen with a coy smile. (Reporting by Euan Rocha; Editing by Tom Brown)

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