[bungaboy]

Well . . . on the bright side . . . Chen can buy cheap shares today!

[RigoMonster]

I still don't think we've seen the "software that will make you want to use one phone, a BlackBerry" that was to be unveiled "in the summer". Depending on what it is in the end but it has potential to be a driver of the stock if it is what Chen says it is.

Yes, this solution may be the key to BlackBerry's future in devices. Thinking that the Android rumors were part of this. BlackBerry's recent silence on this point has me a bit nervous since I don't think that device design is going to be enough to make a difference.

Passport on AT&T

[dasusu]

I recall Chen bought some stock at 8, may be 25k not long after he took the job, now his own investment may be under the water like ours..

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[dalinxz]

Yes, this solution may be the key to BlackBerry's future in devices. Thinking that the Android rumors were part of this. BlackBerry's recent silence on this point has me a bit nervous since I don't think that device design is going to be enough to make a difference.

Passport on AT&T

Further, how terrible is their silence. In an Era where transparency is what's needed to be a social business, BlackBerry keeps everyone in the dark, is horrible with their marketing, do they really expect people to continue supporting their products. No wonder the entire world is leaving them in droves, they continue to alienate stakeholders one by one.

I used to be optimistic about the company, I am now completely disillusioned with Chen, I think they need to hire someone who knows how to communicate, let Chen play CFO, he's a terrible CEO!

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[Hende Nicolas]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/apples-a...its-1-billion/

Bit OT, but worth reflecting on perhaps. You'd think that the more popular you are, the less you'd need to increase spending on advertising, but the Other Fruit seem to defy this. I'll take flak for this, but you've got to wonder whether there is any other way around this mountain-sized elephant in the boardroom. Save on straw and starve the horse? Or is BlackBerry going to be the exception? Don't mean to be too negative, but as each quarter goes by I'm beginning to wonder.

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[bungaboy]

I don't support BlackBerry and I don't buy shares thread - - - - >

[bigbadben10]

Man... the stuff some folks write on this thread is utter rubbish.....SMH!

[Hende Nicolas]

I don't support BlackBerry and I don't by shares thread - - - - >

Only yesterday, I commented on this being a great buying opportunity for those who feel confident that they can see the current playing field clearly. There are a huge number of people out there that do supported BlackBerry and do buy shares, but who aren't playing with monopoly money and would like to still be able to buy a BlackBerry phone in two years time.

But never mind...I won't post anything but optimism in this thread from now on.

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[Knightcrawler]

any thoughts or insights on why BB is been eating a **** the past few days? Since the ER its been falling with no real reason. Usually there's some post ER movement, but it doesn't continue on for a week. Has the short interest become active agian?

[Superfly_FR]

Most of the time after you post one of these "Green!" screen captures, the stock price dives back down. A superstitious person might say that you're jinxing it.

definitely.
But I'm sure most got that I was a bit ironic ...

@K.C
News are all about how J.C "messed up figures into smoke".
And some guys are pretty good at calling the wolf right now on S.A and M.F ...
I believe this is undue and unfair. Yet, we're paying for.



And now MOBL is up ... they bumped near their 52WL.
John, John, Johhhhhhn ! Listen the SF. (obvious joke, if unclear).

[Superfly_FR]

Further, how terrible is their silence. In an Era where transparency is what's needed to be a social business, BlackBerry keeps everyone in the dark, is horrible with their marketing, do they really expect people to continue supporting their products. No wonder the entire world is leaving them in droves, they continue to alienate stakeholders one by one.

I used to be optimistic about the company, I am now completely disillusioned with Chen, I think they need to hire someone who knows how to communicate, let Chen play CFO, he's a terrible CEO!

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I don't agree with that.
Each and every word, statement, forecast ... will be fluked, whatever it is.
They're under acid rain right now and the best they have to do is to leave the vulcano dust settle.
As for now, the rehash (each wave being more dramatic, each "expert" using the most pessimistic former article as a base case for his own "analysis") is far from ended and there's nothing that will be stated that won't turn into "yah-yah, next quarter, next year, yah-yah".
So take the bait in silence, return to work, sell like h3|| in the meantime.

I'd add that, at the end of the day, they (BBRY) may be very happy with a $12mill. shares buyback at this price and may want to bottom before anything. Remember: the SP has close to zero effect on operations ... besides brand image. That's the concern right now.

P.S: burry that Android phone rumor.

[BACK-2-BLACK]

It might work there, when it would never get very far in western markets.

Are you sure about that? Should be interesting to see the race for the mobile wallet.....

(FYI, SureTap and uGo are customers of EnStream...)



Last year, the following NR came out:


BlackBerry Expands Commitment to Mobile Payments Management Services

Company Announces Three-Year Agreement with EnStream to Support Secure Financial Transactions

Jun 12, 2014
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Waterloo, ON - BlackBerry Limited (NASDAQ: BBRY; TSX: BB), a world leader in mobile communications, today announced a new three-year agreement with EnStream LP, a mobile payments joint venture owned by Canadian wireless carriers Bell, Rogers and TELUS, to provide a secure platform that supports transaction services between leading banks and consumers.

Under the agreement, EnStream will leverage BlackBerry�s proven and reliable infrastructure to enable financial institutions, including Royal Bank of Canada, TD Bank Group, CIBC and Desjardins, and mobile operators to securely provision sensitive payment card credentials into any smartphone capable of near field communication.

Today the mobile payments space is primed for growth. According to Gartner, �The total value of transactions using mobile technology is expected to grow from $35 billion in 2012 to $173 billion in 2017, at a compound annual growth rate of 31 percent. This projection includes merchandise purchases, ticketing and bill payments, while it excludes person-to-person payments and airtime top-ups.�[1]

Supporting mobile payments reinforces BlackBerry�s ability to provide unique services that help enterprise customers deploy secure mobile solutions that help promote productivity among their workforce and drive new revenue streams. Working with EnStream demonstrates BlackBerry�s strategy to extend its core enterprise mobility technologies in new and emerging industries.

�BlackBerry has proven through our decades of experience in enterprise mobility that we have the ideal infrastructure and security capabilities to protect users� data when new capabilities such as mobile payments emerge,� said John Sims, President of Global Enterprise Services, BlackBerry. �Together with EnStream and partners like them around the world, BlackBerry can better reach customers and provide a complete solution for banks with opportunities in the mobile payments space.�

�EnStream, with BlackBerry, is already serving a number of banks and mobile operators, and is becoming a hub for payment credential delivery to smartphones in Canada,� said Almis Ledas, Chief Operating Officer, Enstream LP. �We expect most major Canadian banks and mobile operators to connect through this platform to meet consumer demand for efficient and safe digital transactions.�

In order to provide the platform for EnStream, BlackBerry needed to protect the sensitive data associated with financial transactions and meet the stringent requirements of the payment industry. This included complying with regulations and earning PCI, Visa and MasterCard certification.

�Canada is a leading global region in the adoption of technology and mobile payments, making it a key market for MasterCard innovation,� said Nicolas Dinh, Vice President of Emerging Payments, MasterCard. �Safe and secure digital transactions are the backbone of our network and mobile payment ecosystem, and BlackBerry�s involvement in the payment chain will help build trust in Canada and abroad.�

�Canada is leading the world in mobile payments adoption and Visa�s continued focus on innovation is underpinned by our commitment to security and reliability,� said Derek Colfer, Director of Mobile, Visa. �We support BlackBerry�s efforts to offer a secure mobile payment service that will help facilitate mobile payments.�

Given its requirements for security, the mobile payments space continues to be an area of focus for BlackBerry. In addition to today�s announcement, BlackBerry previously launched BBM Money in Indonesia, which allows BBM customers to transfer funds and conduct other types of financial transactions using BBM.

[1] Gartner, Emerging Technology Analysis: Mobile Payments Create Opportunities for Technology and Service Providers With Banking Expertise, Rajesh Kandaswamy, Dec. 10, 2013 (p. 2).

Fast forward to now:

Rogers, Bell, TELUS, Virgin, Koodo and CIBC support new mobile wallet app
Big telcos back new mobile-wallet app for smartphone payments

David Berman and Marina Strauss

The Globe and Mail Published Tuesday, Jun. 23, 2015 12:00AM EDT

Last updated Tuesday, Jun. 23, 2015 8:20AM EDT

The battle for the digital wallet is taking a new turn with the launch of a mobile payments app backed by Canada�s major wireless carriers and promises to include the big banks.

Bell, Rogers, Telus, Koodo and Virgin are backing suretap, an open mobile wallet that was started by Rogers Communications Inc. and spun off into a separate entity, Suretap Wallet LP, late last year.

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce is the first national bank to add its heft to suretap, giving customers the option of adding CIBC Visa or MasterCard credit cards to their smartphones to make so-called contactless purchases valued up to $100.

�We have additional national banks lined up that we are working with, and I anticipate some time through late summer and into December, we�ll be rolling these out,� said Jeppe Dorff, president of Suretap.

Interest in mobile payments, which gives customers the option of paying with their smartphones, has been rising as banks, mobile carriers and merchants respond to surging use of mobile technology for making financial transactions.

Along with Apple Inc and Google Inc., players are racing to grab a piece of what is expected to be a lucrative digital-wallet market.

Canadian banks have payment apps of their own. But in joining suretap, CIBC has given consumers the option of using another app in addition to its own wallet.

�We want to enable client choice,� said Todd Roberts, senior vice-president, of cards and payments innovation, at CIBC. �We think it�s going to be a good additional means for clients to transact.�

Apple rolled out its Apple Watch recently and has begun to expand its own Apple Pay mobile payments system beyond the U.S. market, adding to the urgency for other players to build their own market share.

�For mobile payments to take off in the way that everyone has wanted, it�s very important that there is a single wallet, with all the content available to all Canadians,� Suretap�s Mr. Dorff said.

�Having a unified, single place to store all your credentials is quite unique,� he said.

Suretap, which he said will soon include debit, gift cards, loyalty cards and digital coupons, comes in advance of Apple rolling out its Apple Pay mobile payment system in Canada. Launched south of the border last year, Apple Pay is expected to arrive in Canada later this year, putting pressure on rivals by turning the iPhone into a virtual credit card almost effortlessly for its users.

Despite an array of different digital wallets on the market, they have yet to be widely adopted as companies look for ways to ensure their systems are secure and easy to use with a wide swath of different participating players.

�It�s confusing for the consumer,� said Robert Smythe, a mobile payments specialist at tech researcher IDC. �It�s even confusing for us because every day there is something new coming out.�

The systems usually need consumers to have a smartphone that is enabled with Near Field Communication (NFC) technology, which exists in most new devices.

Canada is seen as ripe territory for mobile payment adoption because consumers are technologically savvy, with about 76 per cent of them (age 5 to 90) having a smartphone in 2014 and 80 per cent expected this year and 86 per cent in 2019, according to IDC. And 60 per cent of smartphones shipped in Canada had NFC capability last year, IDC data shows.

Retailers in Canada are more prepared for contactless payments, Suretap�s research suggests: About 35 per cent of retailers in Canada have contactless payment terminals, allowing NFC-enabled digital wallets to be scanned, compared with just 2 per cent of them in the United States, it found.

But IDC�s Mr. Smythe said Apple and Google, which plans to offer Android Pay south of the border this year, also will be intent on signing up smartphone users when they introduce their respective mobile wallets in Canada.

The stakes are high: U.S. digital payments are forecast to soar to $142-billion (U.S.) by 2019, almost three times more than the $52-billion last year, according to tech specialist Forrester Research Inc.

Mr. Dorff said Suretap has signed on about 30 retailers, including cheap-chic fashion chain Forever 21 and online coupon purveyor Groupon, twice as many as it had when it was part of Rogers. Other retailers include Indigo Book & Music Inc., restaurateur Cara Operations Ltd. and movie chain Cineplex Inc.

Mr. Dorff, a former Rogers executive, said initially suretap is launching with CIBC and Rogers bank, which together have about 40 payment cards, but �in the near future� more banks will make their card products available to consumers. �We are certainly setting the pace in terms of mass, scalable solutions.�

Forrester analyst Thomas Husson said in a report that mobile wallets will become important marketing tools for companies in the next five years. Marketers can boost sales by folding in loyalty points, coupons and product offerings from multiple brands in a convenient mobile wallet, the report said.






(FYI, SureTap and uGo are customers of EnStream...)


wonder what all this means !!!?!

[Superfly_FR]

Apple's ad budget hits $1 billion - CBS News

Bit OT, but worth reflecting on perhaps. You'd think that the more popular you are, the less you'd need to increase spending on advertising, but the Other Fruit seem to defy this. I'll take flak for this, but you've got to wonder whether there is any other way around this mountain-sized elephant in the boardroom. Save on straw and starve the horse? Or is BlackBerry going to be the exception? Don't mean to be too negative, but as each quarter goes by I'm beginning to wonder.

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This $1Bil mark is not really new, well, it was "marketing" budget [similar to Samsung's] in the last 2-3 years for both elephants.
That's why - I believe - they gave up on the consumers. They just can't fight; they tried under Thor betting on social and viral marketing actions, due to lack of finance. They failed and almost killed the company. And time has not come to go back in this mined territory ...



P.S: I'm not sure Bunga was pointing at you BTW

[take99]

OT: HALO easing my BBRY pain today, new lifetime high!

[b121]

Fyi... I picked up some more shares at 8.32 this am, and now down 3%.

I had held off for a while, but the hugh drop encouraged me to dollar cost average. Time will tell, but I'm hoping they can execute on the long term vision.

Disclaimer: this is not investment advice

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[Superfly_FR]

! Hey, newcomers !

Welcome aboard and enjoy this utter-long lasting thread.

We would like to enlighten some points in order to avoid [obviously unnecessary] flames and d1c4 wars.

1. I speak English like a Spanish cow. Beware this can lead into headaches but please, in the doubt, give me one free shot.
2. Many contributors are here for more than 3 years, on a daily basis.
3. Because of 2), we, they, somehow fell "home" here. You won't enter one's home and start with "man, your carpet st1nxs big time", won't you ? Don't be brutal, please.
4. Because of 2) they have a track of record and a highly educated vision about BBRY (the stock) and how they see the future of BlackBerry (the enterprise) that is not only based on TA or classic approach regarding "finance". They digested probably more informations, analysis, reports, figures and videos than the sum of the top 10 analysts altogether.
As a start, give them a little credit, and enjoy this unbelievable repository of thoughts, forecasts, joys and pains THEY've collected since OP (while at it, give it a little read, you'll get a clearer picture, maybe ?)
5. We're here to help, explain, share, discuss ... in the most friendly manner.
6. Did I mention I speak English like a Spanish cow ?

Enjoy, welcome, bienvenue,
Peace.
SF

[BACK-2-BLACK]

Sorry for repost, couldn't find who originally posted so i can quote it....

( just wanted to highlight one of the schematics in the article: BBM Money in the eBBM suite )




Microsoft Continues Its Aggressive Acquisition Strategy in 2015
By Anne Shields � Jun 23, 2015 2:22 pm EDT

Blackberry catches Microsoft�s attention

As we saw in the earlier in this series, the latest company added to Microsoft�s (MSFT) acquisition portfolio is BlueStripe. Its acquisition was finalized on June 10, 2015. Recently, Microsoft has taken several initiatives to enhance its presence in the mobile space. It has followed the acquisitions route to solidify its position in the mobile and cloud space.




In November 2014, BlackBerry launched BBM Meetings, a mobile app that allows voice and video conferences for groups of up to 25 people. This service is compatible with BlackBerry smartphones and also works on Apple (AAPL) iOS, Google (GOOG)(GOOGL) Android, and Microsoft (MSFT) Windows Phone smartphone operating systems.

According to an AppleInsider article, on May 25, 2015, Microsoft showed a keen interest in acquiring BlackBerry (BBRY), so that it can deepen its foray in the mobile space. This news came shortly after BlackBerry announced layoffs. According to a May 22 report from the Wall Street Journal, there�s a high likelihood that BlackBerry will lay off an undisclosed number of employees from its smartphone business. In April 2015, BlackBerry closed down its Sweden (EFA) office�potentially laying off 100 employees.

If Microsoft acquires BlackBerry, it will access BlackBerry�s patent portfolio of wireless technologies and data security. Over the last few quarters, BlackBerry�s CEO John Chen has been focused on transforming the company from a hardware-focused business to an enterprise software company. As a result, its acquisition by Microsoft will be beneficial for both of the companies.

To learn about mobile industry news, please read BlackBerry Renews Its Ties with T-Mobile to Sell Classic.


Chinese smartphone makers eye BlackBerry

However, Microsoft isn�t the only company to show an interest in BlackBerry. Chinese smartphone makers like Lenovo, Xiaomi, and Huawei have also showed an interest in BlackBerry. The companies want increase their visibility in the US and Europe.

Smartphone OS market share





The above chart shows the smartphone OS (operating system) market share percentage in the US and China (FXI) for the three-month period ending April 2015. This data is reported by Kantar Worldpanel ComTech�a market research and consumer knowledge company.
Microsoft expressed $55 billion interest in Salesforce

To strengthen its foray in the cloud space, Microsoft wanted to acquire Salesforce due to its leadership position in the CRM (customer relationship management) space. On May 22, 2015, CNBC�s David Faber reported that talks between Salesforce.com (CRM) and Microsoft have taken place, regarding the latter�s interest in acquiring Salesforce.

However, Microsoft�s offer price failed to meet the expectations of Salesforce�s CEO Marc Benioff. Reportedly, Microsoft offered to pay $55 billion for Salesforce, but Benioff anticipated a price of $70 billion.

[jojowan]

If someone comes with a hostile offer of usd13-15 and JC will have to be sacked, as a shareholder, will you go for the offer or JC?





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[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Are you sure about that? Should be interesting to see the race for the mobile wallet.....

(FYI, SureTap and uGo are customers of EnStream...)


wonder what all this means !!!?!

BIG difference in BBM Money and what these BANKS are doing in Canada. So yeah I'm pretty sure that BBM Money (as it is) will not get too far in western markets. Not saying that BlackBerry couldn't make BBM Money more like Apple Pay... but it seems they aren't interested in going that route. Which might be because BBM itself isn't really catching on as they had hoped.

[BACK-2-BLACK]

BIG difference in BBM Money and what these BANKS are doing in Canada. So yeah I'm pretty sure that BBM Money (as it is) will not get too far in western markets. Not saying that BlackBerry couldn't make BBM Money more like Apple Pay... but it seems they aren't interested in going that route. Which might be because BBM itself isn't really catching on as they had hoped.

what about the BBM Money feature in the eBBM Suite?

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

what about the BBM Money feature in the eBBM Suite?

Has it expanded out of Indonesia yet?

So far it seems the usage of BBM Money is very limited and is used more like Western Union than a typical Credit Card. I think it more about being able to transfer money than buying products from a retailer.

[BACK-2-BLACK]

Has it expanded out of Indonesia yet?

So far it seems the usage of BBM Money is very limited and is used more like Western Union than a typical Credit Card. I think it more about being able to transfer money than buying products from a retailer.

Don't believe it has, just launched there. But my question was more in regards to the potential of this feature (plus EnStream) in the eBBM Suite...

[BACK-2-BLACK]

If someone comes with a hostile offer of usd13-15 and JC will have to be sacked, as a shareholder, will you go for the offer or JC?





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JC of course

You?

[jojowan]

JC of course

You?

One year ago (the time I started to invest in BBRY) I would definitely choose JC

However, at this moment, I need to know more about JC's real plan before deciding. In my opinion, the roadmap of the company (especially the roadmap for devices) is quite unclear to the public currently.

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[Bilaal]

One year ago (the time I started to invest in BBRY) I would definitely choose JC

However, at this moment, I need to know more about JC's real plan before deciding. In my opinion, the roadmap of the company (especially the roadmap for devices) is quite unclear to the public currently.

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I second this. It also doesn't help when rumours of an Android phone and whatever pops up every week.

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