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I must add that z3 would be less than RS. 12,000 suggested retail verses z10's current sale price of RS 17,900. now that will be an interesting game. cant wait.03-30-14 02:11 PMLike 7 - Morgan!
Thank you for your "breath of fresh air" response! My sentiment is 100% on your side with regards to the quarterly results and the direction of this company. The way the market sold off this stock on Friday was disheartening and worrisome to say the least, but your explanation was very insightful and reassuring. It seems the consensus of many of us here is that we saw clear signs of stabilizing and progress, but the market isn't yet convinced. I agree the next two quarters will change that. There are too many areas of potential to drive future profitability for this new lean and mean company with a stellar balance sheet. John Chen gets it. We get it.
Personally, I'd love to buy more shares at this level, but I've reached as deep as possible already and have been holding for quite some time. I hope that rally starts sooner than later so I don't have to be tempted for much longer.
Posted via CB10
MR BBRY sir!!! Thanks for your comments!!
I did forget to mention one more thing that was a negative for me, that is the evolution of BES12 over BES10. I like everything about BES12, don't get me wrong, but in this cut throat world of business, you sell what you have NOW and promote what you'll have later. They needed to stick to the program which is BES 10.2 and sell the heck out of that product. BES12 is light years away in technology and I don't appreciate introducing a topic that isn't available for another 6 months. When they throw information like BES12 out there, it's a sign of desperation on their part. I don't know how others feel about that but it is a negative in as much as it stalls purchases. They need to get BB 10.3 out to the masses, continue to improve that OS, get video out to the masses on BBM-X and sell product. Below $ 9.00/shr though, I like the investment a great deal. I will continue to trade the spikes until I see the last shoe drop on improvements. GL03-30-14 02:12 PMLike 14 - Thanks Morgan. I really appreciate your input to this thread.
Posted by the indomitable Zed Ten.Mr BBRY and morganplus8 like this.03-30-14 02:21 PMLike 2 -
- this is the gap though - so far we have heard:
"The z10 will retain/convert people who want an touchscreen experience" - it didn't
"Ok old-timers want a proper keyboard, the q10 will be for them and will retain/convert" - it didn't
"OK, the z30 as a flagship will pull them in" - it hasn't.
So really I'm not sure why any of those new phones will be anymore successful? It's arguable that the z3 might be because of price but I still think at this stage of the game it's a long-shot.
The Z3 will sell much better, if only because the BlackBerry is dead stuff is dying off considerably. Without some half decent marketing, it will still sell poorly, but, again, it wasn't the phones; it was the huge negative pressure on the brand and nothing from BlackBerry educating people on why they should give a damn.
Join the Cause @ BlackBerry Bootleg Marketing Channel - C003483F403-30-14 02:35 PMLike 2 - In case you have Mac?
http://gizmodo.com/dont-buy-plane-ti...full+(Gizmodo)
On the side note. Tried 10.3 browser bar file on 10.2.1.
It is super fast, faster than already fast bb10 browser. (don't forget to restart the phone after installation).
If that's the signs for things to come then I am looking forward to OS 10.3.
Posted using Z30. Best of the best Smart phone in the world.bungaboy and morganplus8 like this.03-30-14 05:40 PMLike 2 - Morgan,
I agree with you on a lot of what you say.
I do t think cash flow is an issue for the company now.
My main issue is everything that we need to get this moving now, Q20 bes12 etc, is coming in november.
This is a big problem imo. There will be clients who have deadlines and need to move on decisions.
Thinking about it this is probably why they have increased the life of bb7 as a transition, but it doesn't help the image of bb10.
Hmmmm... they need to move real fast now.
What are your thoughts?
Posted via CB10morganplus8 likes this.03-30-14 05:48 PMLike 1 - MR BBRY sir!!! Thanks for your comments!!
I did forget to mention one more thing that was a negative for me, that is the evolution of BES12 over BES10. I like everything about BES12, don't get me wrong, but in this cut throat world of business, you sell what you have NOW and promote what you'll have later. They needed to stick to the program which is BES 10.2 and sell the heck out of that product. BES12 is light years away in technology and I don't appreciate introducing a topic that isn't available for another 6 months. When they throw information like BES12 out there, it's a sign of desperation on their part. I don't know how others feel about that but it is a negative in as much as it stalls purchases. They need to get BB 10.3 out to the masses, continue to improve that OS, get video out to the masses on BBM-X and sell product. Below $ 9.00/shr though, I like the investment a great deal. I will continue to trade the spikes until I see the last shoe drop on improvements. GLjfguay2 likes this.03-30-14 05:59 PMLike 1 - Z3 should sell surprisingly well at less than USD $200 per device. The rollout has to be quicker. HTC One (M8) will probably sell as well HTC One (M7). But HTC will continue to lose money. Having the best looking Android phone means nothing. Both Apple and Samsung spend 5x more on marketing than HTC.
Android rules because of cheap plastic smartphones like mid-market phones from Samsung, Huawei and LG . Right now the fastest growing markets are in Asia where $150 to $250 phones sell well. iPhone 5C is not getting any traction that Apple desired because it's overpriced in Asia.
Neverthelss, Z3 should sell well in Indonesia launch....
last quarter BB position in indonesia smartphone marketshare drop to 6th position (according to IDC) behind samsung , andromax, lenovo,oppo, sony. while the previous quarter they still hold 3rd position
samsung outsell BB almost 8 to 1 . in here android is the latest trend
iPhone maybe not a big player in indonesia and many emerging market, but iPhone brand awareness as a premium phone is huge...that is why iPhone 4 8GB still popular even if they sell it much more expensive than other, in indonesia they sell iPhone 4 8GB for $350 while iPhone 5S around $90003-30-14 06:27 PMLike 0 - Best Smart phone by Time magazine. Guess which one?
http://time.com/39644/the-10-best-sm...-named-iphone/
http://utbblogs.com/blackberry/time-...en-smartphone/
Posted using Z30. Best of the best Smart phone in the world.03-30-14 07:27 PMLike 14 - this is the gap though - so far we have heard:
"The z10 will retain/convert people who want an touchscreen experience" - it didn't
"Ok old-timers want a proper keyboard, the q10 will be for them and will retain/convert" - it didn't
"OK, the z30 as a flagship will pull them in" - it hasn't.
So really I'm not sure why any of those new phones will be anymore successful? It's arguable that the z3 might be because of price but I still think at this stage of the game it's a long-shot.
Posted via CB10bungaboy likes this.03-30-14 08:55 PMLike 1 - And another positive Z30 review!
From USA TODAY.
Not perfect... but we are making some progress!
Again, through BerryFlow. Thanks.
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/tech/...03/28/7010463/03-30-14 10:22 PMLike 6 -
Also the reason bb10 does not sell well is price. why would anyone get bb10 for over $400 when they can get Nokia/Anroid for $20003-30-14 11:02 PMLike 0 - ...
Finally, look at their Balance Sheet, current assets have plenty of new cash coming in, they have a really healthy balance sheet going forward when you back out those Bonds as "debt" and factor in interest payments. They aren't going anywhere for a very long time. I believe we had a neutral to positive report this Q which the market decided was not worth carrying over into the next quarter on their books so some Funds sold Friday to take the trade off their Quarterly Reports. When this Quarter ends on the Monday close, the stock will have bottomed out. It is easily worth $ 9.00/shr today, at that level it is a great investment. Don't let Friday's action influence you, the timing versus the end of the Quarter was not missed in Friday's trading. Buy on weakness, be prepared to hold the stock for two more quarters and you will be rewarded. I expected the stock to hold above $ 9.00/shr on Friday, anything below that level is a BUY. Can they break even in Q1 .... it is now possible, that would start the rally.
I'll stop here!!03-31-14 12:15 AMLike 5 - Superfly_FRRetired Moderatordont hope to much....
last quarter BB position in indonesia smartphone marketshare drop to 6th position (according to IDC) behind samsung , andromax, lenovo,oppo, sony. while the previous quarter they still hold 3rd position
samsung outsell BB almost 8 to 1 . in here android is the latest trend
iPhone maybe not a big player in indonesia and many emerging market, but iPhone brand awareness as a premium phone is huge...that is why iPhone 4 8GB still popular even if they sell it much more expensive than other, in indonesia they sell iPhone 4 8GB for $350 while iPhone 5S around $900
Just sayin'Last edited by Superfly_FR; 03-31-14 at 03:58 AM.
03-31-14 03:38 AMLike 3 - Superfly_FRRetired Moderatorit is for the best small screen phone other than iPhone....other flagship phone (galaxy s4, LG g2, HTC one, every iPhone) is not included on the list
if we look the overall list , every screen size and including iPhone the best smartphone is :
(same source as time magazine article)
1. Samsung galaxy note 3
2. HTC One (M8)
3. Samsung galaxy S4
4.HTC one (2013)
5. LG Nexus 5
6. Samsung galaxy S3
7. Apple iPhone 5S
8. Nokia Lumia 1020
9. Apple iPhone 5
10. Nokia Lumia 1520
Best Smartphones Comparison 2014 - Reviews and Ratings
no BlackBerry phone in top 20
Last ranking if an absolute ranking, despite sales.03-31-14 03:40 AMLike 5 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorHi gang. After another crappy thing by Kofi Bofah on S.A ("QNX Will Not Save BlackBerry", I won't link to that "short propaganda"), I digged a little for my answer, thought I might share it with you all, about the Internet of things and how we could/should weight it for BlackBerry future ...
So here you go, have a nice week buddies !
Sorry, but again, you missed it.
It's not "QNX" and the infotainment niche market (where QNX is king) you have to focus on but the incredible IoT (Internet of Things) market ( from 1.9 billion devices today to 9 billion by 2018. That year, it will be roughly equal to the number of smartphones, smart TVs, tablets, wearable computers, and PCs combined - Read more: Growth In The Internet Of Things - Business Insider) : that's what a wise investor should monitor as the next big picture and profit source.
In this emerging field, QNX has de facto a strong leadership due to these specific points : ubiquity (the capability to interact flawesly with other environments/OSes), security (do you really have an Android home automation system ? - I'm worried about your safety), network infrastructure (BlackBerry NOC). Chen's goal here is not only infotainments systems, but to lead the overall market of the IoT. As he clearly stated in this interview that I strongly suggest anyone interested in $BBRY to watch : BlackBerry's Chen committed to turnaround - Business - CBC Player03-31-14 03:50 AMLike 10 -
in top 5 most pop country only in indonesia BB have larger than 1% marketshare
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/32984005.cms
just saying... .
Z10 maybe sold out in india but the question is how many ? 50 ? 100? 10.000?
i think it is based on reviews....richardat likes this.03-31-14 04:10 AMLike 1 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorBlackBerry india marketshare are much worse....0.2% according to IDC
Blackberry�€™s pricing strategy a flop: Analysts - The Economic Times
just saying...
May not last, precisely. Let's see next Q figures, then post Z3's ones.
Yes, reviews within the most sold devices list.bungaboy likes this.03-31-14 04:16 AMLike 1 -
yes i agree we have to wait the next quarter result post Z3, i also invest on shares (not BBRY), but i think it is not good to hope one device will change BB future, their hardware business being perceived negatively , there are to many competitors in under $200 phone (Lenovo, Samsung, LG, Nokia) while BB stronghold market alredy migrate to android ...i think BB future rides in BES and software (main revenue for BB last quarter)03-31-14 04:38 AMLike 0
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