2.7 Million Units Shipped, Best First Full Quarter Launch for any mobile OS ever?
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In addition to all that, Nokia was pushing multiple alternative smartphone OSes at the time. The Symbian^3 powered Pureview 808 was launched much after the Lumia 800. The Meego powered Nokia N9 was launched shortly before. Nokia was balancing multiple, modern flagship devices and they would all continue to remain relevant for some time. BBRY is all in BB10.
Nokia certainly did not hype or devote resources for Lumia to take off with a bang like BBRY did BB10 and why would it? As far as consumers were concerned, this was just the launch of another product line of the then 4th place OS. For this reason, Lumia expectations were lower. At the same time, Lumia had the benefit of launching with an established OS. Ultimately, the drastically different circumstances make the comparison not meaningful.Last edited by sentimentGX4; 07-07-13 at 02:33 PM.
07-07-13 02:17 PMLike 0 - Tomi Ahonen is full of crap. You cant believe a word he says. Here is Nokia's official numbers.
q4 11....1
q1 12....2
q2 12....4
q3 12..2.9
q4 12..4.4
Q1 13..5.6
There is a whole website dedicated to correcting his idiocy.
The Tomi Ahonen corrective encyclopedia | Dominies Communicate
Posted via CB10peter9477 likes this.07-07-13 02:44 PMLike 1 - The adoption rate which is pathetic. Lets face it the majority of people who went bb10 are already BlackBerry user's and the small number of people who switched was insignificant. As evidenced by the poor sales.
Theres a reason you rarely see a BlackBerry Z or Q in the wild now we know why.
Now if your looking for something to generate buzz than yes im sure something could be made up using an obscure metric like os launches.
But if were going to go with that them BlackBerry did a **** poor job of executing. I mean by there own actions they dissuaded current legacy users from upgrading because many basic features were omitted as you can read in the threads here on CB. When you fail to convert sufficient numbers of your faithful to your new platform theres no giod spin, metric, or speel you can put on it.
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Thanks for weighing in. Nothing you said is counter to the thread topic except saying that the adoption rate is pathetic.
Do you have any data or sources in regards to this?
Thanks
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After a full quarter of release 2.7 million shipped worldwide. Im not trying to counter the thread topic just replying to your question as to what a good measure of success would be.
Posted via CB1007-07-13 05:36 PMLike 0 -
My question about the data or sources was about:
"Lets face it the majority of people who went bb10 are already BlackBerry user's and the small number of people who switched was insignificant. As evidenced by the poor sales."
Were you suggesting that a good measure of success would be how many of BB10 purchasers are coming from different platforms?07-07-13 06:36 PMLike 0 - Oh I see.
My question about the data or sources was about:
"Lets face it the majority of people who went bb10 are already BlackBerry user's and the small number of people who switched was insignificant. As evidenced by the poor sales."
Were you suggesting that a good measure of success would be how many of BB10 purchasers are coming from different platforms?
Posted via CB1007-07-13 08:06 PMLike 0 -
I doubt BlackBerry will ever be a key player if they keep trying to catch some of the leaders in hardware, like Samsung. Who can compete hardware-wise with a company that puts out a new phone every couple of weeks!?
BlackBerry should hand that off to Sony or Nokia, and focus on sitting atop of every device server through the QNX software.
Posted via CB1007-07-13 08:34 PMLike 0 - [QUOTE=alternator77;8780079]The adoption rate which is pathetic. Lets face it the majority of people who went bb10 are already BlackBerry user's and the small number of people who switched was insignificant. As evidenced by the poor sales.
Theres a reason you rarely see a BlackBerry Z or Q in the wild now we know why.
Now if your looking for something to generate buzz than yes im sure something could be made up using an obscure metric like os launches.
But if were going to go with that them BlackBerry did a **** poor job of executing.
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Agreed, if you are only looking at the angle from a standard user. In large corporations, (where most of the sales went), have their own IT people who do the training if required.
I do agree though, that if BlackBerry is serious about getting the bb10 experience out to the average consumer, they need to properly train the consumer-level sales staff first! I can't tell you how many times I have been to local stores even in Vancouver, where the sales staff were totally ignorant to how bb10 worked; that is, if you even saw a real working phone to begin with!
FIX THIS BlackBerry!
Posted via CB10Last edited by Bacon Munchers; 07-07-13 at 08:52 PM.
07-07-13 08:42 PMLike 0 - The adoption rate which is pathetic. Lets face it the majority of people who went bb10 are already BlackBerry user's and the small number of people who switched was insignificant. As evidenced by the poor sales.
Theres a reason you rarely see a BlackBerry Z or Q in the wild now we know why.
Posted via CB1007-08-13 12:08 AMLike 0 -
Bottom line and i think we both can agree is they need a little bit of both legacy users to upgrade and people from other platforms to switch. In sufficient numbers to make a difference.
Posted via CB1007-08-13 04:56 PMLike 0 -
Sent from my SGH-I337M using CB Forums mobile app07-08-13 05:10 PMLike 0 - This is a bad comparison, in general. Windows Phone had already been around for a while when Nokia jumped on board. Other OEMs such as HTC and Samsung sold a sizable percentage of Windows Phones back then. This is not a fresh OS launch but a competitive environment.
In addition to all that, Nokia was pushing multiple alternative smartphone OSes at the time. The Symbian^3 powered Pureview 808 was launched much after the Lumia 800. The Meego powered Nokia N9 was launched shortly before. Nokia was balancing multiple, modern flagship devices and they would all continue to remain relevant for some time. BBRY is all in BB10.
Nokia certainly did not hype or devote resources for Lumia to take off with a bang like BBRY did BB10 and why would it? As far as consumers were concerned, this was just the launch of another product line of the then 4th place OS. For this reason, Lumia expectations were lower. At the same time, Lumia had the benefit of launching with an established OS. Ultimately, the drastically different circumstances make the comparison not meaningful.
MeeGo was relegated to obscure markets to die quickly.
Samsung and HTC sold sizable % of WP but total numbers were abysmall. This is the reason why Nokia now accounts for the 80% of WP sales.
As per others complaning about conversion rates, look how Nokia Symbian to WP conversion rates look like, comparing to that BlackBerry looks wildly successfull.
Posted via CB1007-10-13 03:54 AMLike 0 - This is my first time post and I would just like to inform the Crackberry community that my company is now allowing upgrades for their slew of BB's to either the new Z10 or Q10. This is a large company of 130K+. There is no BYOD here, although, some employees are permitted to order an iPhone under special circumstances. I believe that the corporate adoption for BB's will be there, it just takes time for the IT departments to deploy BES, test the new BB's and then replace the aging company BB's. As a note, I couldn't replace my BB until it was used for at least 2 years.
Last edited by Chris H; 07-10-13 at 09:29 PM.
07-10-13 02:55 PMLike 5 - This is my first time post and I would just like to inform the Crackberry community that my company (know for their 'thermostats') is now allowing upgrades for their slew of BB's to either the new Z10 or Q10. This is a large company of 130K+. There is no BYOD here, although, some employees are permitted to order an iPhone under special circumstances. I believe that the corporate adoption for BB's will be there, it just takes time for the IT departments to deploy BES, test the new BB's and then replace the aging company BB's. As a note, I couldn't replace my BB until it was used for at least 2 years.07-10-13 06:47 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB10 via my Z1007-11-13 02:04 PMLike 0 - Hi Chris, Thanks for the update, and welcome!
Question: Is your company Canadian or USA(ian)?
This is my first time post and I would just like to inform the Crackberry community that my company is now allowing upgrades for their slew of BB's to either the new Z10 or Q10. This is a large company of 130K+. There is no BYOD here, although, some employees are permitted to order an iPhone under special circumstances. I believe that the corporate adoption for BB's will be there, it just takes time for the IT departments to deploy BES, test the new BB's and then replace the aging company BB's. As a note, I couldn't replace my BB until it was used for at least 2 years.07-11-13 09:01 PMLike 0
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