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  1. Rock Star1's Avatar
    Heck yes it does. So the IS sticks? Am I right? I just want to clarify before I begin the process.

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-14 06:58 PM
  2. Rock Star1's Avatar
    OS I meant

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-14 06:59 PM
  3. dviles's Avatar
    Yes. I seem to remember it being about 10 MB in OS 10.3.1.632.

    Be careful Rockstar, EmailBOLA had a different issue.

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-14 07:22 PM
  4. Rock Star1's Avatar
    Oh ok. Thank you

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-14 07:31 PM
  5. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Yes. I seem to remember it being about 10 MB in OS 10.3.1.632.

    Be careful Rockstar, EmailBOLA had a different issue.

    Posted via CB10
    If they keep their hope up for more than four hours, do they need to see a doctor?
    Mecca EL likes this.
    11-24-14 07:31 PM
  6. thurask's Avatar
    To determine the partition setup on a device, use cfp info:

    cfp info > somefile.txt

    Piping it into a text file makes determining things easier. Now, here's the memory config table from when I did it on my Passport (emphasis mine):

    QNX Partition: type=0x03:80, blocks 33-95, total = 63, "nvram"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0F:80, blocks 96-543, total = 448, "cal_work"
    QNX Partition: type=0x11:80, blocks 544-1055, total = 512, "dmi"
    QNX Partition: type=0x12:00, blocks 544-544, total = 1, "dmi_mbr"
    QNX Partition: type=0x93:00, blocks 559-559, total = 1, "dmi_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x13:00, blocks 560-1055, total = 496, "dmi_fsys"
    QNX Partition: type=0x10:00, blocks 1056-2079, total = 1024, "cal_backup"
    QNX Partition: type=0x01:80, blocks 2080-10271, total = 8192, "os"
    QNX Partition: type=0x06:20, blocks 2080-2080, total = 1, "os_mbr"
    QNX Partition: type=0x07:40, blocks 2095-2095, total = 1, "os_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x89:40, blocks 2095-2095, total = 1, "os_sig"
    START OF FIRST SECURE
    QNX Partition: type=0x08:40, blocks 2096-2271, total = 176, "system"
    QNX Partition: type=0x09:40, blocks 2272-10271, total = 8000, "os_fsys"
    QNX Partition: type=0x01:80, blocks 10272-18463, total = 8192, "os"
    QNX Partition: type=0x06:20, blocks 10272-10272, total = 1, "os_mbr"
    QNX Partition: type=0x07:00, blocks 10287-10287, total = 1, "os_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x89:00, blocks 10287-10287, total = 1, "os_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x08:00, blocks 10288-10463, total = 176, "system"
    QNX Partition: type=0x09:00, blocks 10464-18463, total = 8000, "os_fsys"
    END OF FIRST SECURE
    QNX Partition: type=0x02:80, blocks 18464-20511, total = 2048, "radio"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0A:20, blocks 18464-18464, total = 1, "radio_mbr"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0B:40, blocks 18479-18479, total = 1, "radio_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x8C:40, blocks 18479-18479, total = 1, "radio_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0C:40, blocks 18480-19487, total = 1008, "radio_fsys"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0A:20, blocks 19488-19488, total = 1, "radio_mbr"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0B:00, blocks 19503-19503, total = 1, "radio_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x8C:00, blocks 19503-19503, total = 1, "radio_sig"
    QNX Partition: type=0x0C:00, blocks 19504-20511, total = 1008, "radio_fsys"
    START OF SECOND SECURE
    QNX Partition: type=0x05:80, blocks 20512-524287, total = 503776, "user"
    END OF SECOND SECURE

    These cfp commands:

    cfp.exe -u erase 0x00000830-0x0000481F
    cfp.exe -u erase 0x00005820-0x0003A3FF

    are dependent on where the secure partitions start (and converting those start positions to hexadecimal). So for a Passport and according to the above cfp info, it's:

    cfp.exe -u erase 0x00000830-0x0000481F
    cfp.exe -u erase 0x00005020-0x00007FFF

    0x830-0x481F (2096-18463 in decimal) is the OS, 0x5820-0x3A3FF (22560-238591) is the user file system. The IFS file that's been talked about (which I think are the "system" partitions) is essentially the platform-specific bootloader for the system. You can dump it with late enough Sachesi and a 10.3.1 image.
    11-24-14 08:05 PM
  7. techtechnique's Avatar
    Slightly off-topic, but why hasn't anyone rooted BB10? With root access, every partition would be so much easier to administer.
    11-24-14 08:12 PM
  8. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Slightly off-topic, but why hasn't anyone rooted BB10? With root access, every partition would be so much easier to administer.
    It's a BlackBerry. Impossible.
    zephyr613 and Mecca EL like this.
    11-24-14 08:22 PM
  9. wu-wei's Avatar
    Slightly off-topic, but why hasn't anyone rooted BB10? With root access, every partition would be so much easier to administer.
    LOL. This is hilarious.

    If I recall correctly, early versions of SIC used some random range sizes...because they didn't know what they were doing and just guessed. Sure would suck if that was the cause of all this headache for so many users.
    ofutur, Mecca EL and habs_fan like this.
    11-24-14 11:49 PM
  10. clie610's Avatar
    LOL. This is hilarious.

    If I recall correctly, early versions of SIC used some random range sizes...because they didn't know what they were doing and just guessed. Sure would suck if that was the cause of all this headache for so many users.
    Instead of giving negative comments, you can always open your own thread. I'm sorry but your post is not helping anybody here.
    Sator, Eka Rama, zocster and 3 others like this.
    11-25-14 01:41 AM
  11. jpvj's Avatar
    LOL. This is hilarious.

    If I recall correctly, early versions of SIC used some random range sizes...because they didn't know what they were doing and just guessed. Sure would suck if that was the cause of all this headache for so many users.
    That would definitively sound plausible.

    As I wrote in a previous comment, I don't believe it's hardware problem as much more users would be affected.
    A possible cause could be the device was brought into a state causing it to behave like the OP describes.
    11-25-14 03:44 AM
  12. jpvj's Avatar
    Instead of giving negative comments, you can always open your own thread. I'm sorry but your post is not helping anybody here.
    I disagree. If SIC was the root cause it's very relevant.

    I don't recall who is the author(s) behind SIC, but it would be nice if they would comment on this claim and either confirm or deline if they at some point deleted incorrect ranges.
    geodorn, Mecca EL and BigBadWulf like this.
    11-25-14 03:57 AM
  13. clie610's Avatar
    I disagree. If SIC was the root cause it's very relevant.
    I don't recall who is the author(s) behind SIC, but it would be nice if they would comment on this claim and either confirm or deline if they at some point deleted incorrect ranges.
    Let's find the IF first before you jump to the next step, let say to ask if everybody who have this problem only have it after they are using SIC....or not ? And what claim are we talking about here? Sorry OP I don't mean to derail your thread.

    Oh, and by the way, SIC Multiwipe below 1.3 is not using any range, only SIC Wipe n Load that applies the range for each type of BB10 device.
    11-25-14 04:15 AM
  14. Uzi's Avatar
    My friend never use sic before ,STL1 is having the issue
    *SOLVED* [Blue LED 10.3 upgrade issue] Can anyone help fix a re-wiped device?-om-az-blue-led-i.jpg

    Posted via BlackBerry Passport
    11-25-14 04:28 AM
  15. jpvj's Avatar
    Thx.
    11-25-14 05:33 AM
  16. jpvj's Avatar
    Let's find the IF first before you jump to the next step, let say to ask if everybody who have this problem only have it after they are using SIC....or not ? And what claim are we talking about here? Sorry OP I don't mean to derail your thread.

    Oh, and by the way, SIC Multiwipe below 1.3 is not using any range, only SIC Wipe n Load that applies the range for each type of BB10 device.
    Hi Clie610,

    At the moment this thread really has no "next step" as we are working on a very low level of the devices and very few people (if any) outside BB has the knowledge to debug what the issue is. So I guess we are all trying to guess what the cause might be.

    Personally I would love to get my hands on an affected device and debug it with BlackBerry as I'm partner and beta tester of 10.3.1. But so far nobody has contacted me and offered to loan me a device which is fair enough, as "I'm just a stranger on the forum".

    The claim I'm referring to is "If I recall correctly, early versions of SIC used some random range sizes".

    As I understand you comment correctly, SIC Multiwipe 1.3 and later OR SIC Wipe n Load does delete specific ranges.

    Are you one of the authors of SIC?

    I'm not in any way trying to be personal, just trying to look for possible causes to a very interesting problem and my best guess right now is that the device somehow is brought into an usupported state causing this behaviour.
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    11-25-14 05:38 AM
  17. anon(4290548)'s Avatar
    I'll give the shrunken 1151 a shot since BigBadWulf went to the trouble of making the file for us. Will try to do it in the next few days.

    Two things :

    1. As so many people without this issue are taking the time to chip in their time, I'm feeling a bit guilty that those of us with the problem could be providing a bit more info. As I mentioned in a post, if we can list our files in Sachesi, is there anything that might point to possible conflicts/software issues? Basically I would be happy to do some trawling, and posting of info specific to my Q10 100-3, if it would help track down the cause of the blue LED/settings wipe.

    2. Anyone with the issue tried 1154? Just a vague hope that some change in that version will bypass the glitch.....

    Thanks again to all those pitching in here.
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    11-25-14 05:43 AM
  18. clie610's Avatar
    Hi Clie610,

    At the moment this thread really has no "next step" as we are working on a very low level of the devices and very few people (if any) outside BB has the knowledge to debug what the issue is. So I guess we are all trying to guess what the cause might be.

    Personally I would love to get my hands on an affected device and debug it with BlackBerry as I'm partner and beta tester of 10.3.1. But so far nobody has contacted me and offered to loan me a device which is fair enough, as "I'm just a stranger on the forum".

    The claim I'm referring to is "If I recall correctly, early versions of SIC used some random range sizes".

    As I understand you comment correctly, SIC Multiwipe 1.3 and later OR SIC Wipe n Load does delete specific ranges.

    Are you one of the authors of SIC?

    I'm not in any way trying to be personal, just trying to look for possible causes to a very interesting problem and my best guess right now is that the device somehow is brought into an usupported state causing this behaviour.
    Yes I am one of the author, and as explained we do put the erase ranges for bb10 devices in SIC Wipe n Load from the beginning, and do not apply that on SIC Multiwipe because it is for overall BlackBerry devices. Simple thing for sure, if is caused by SIC, then all of our users including ourselves have the same problem because at least me and the other author only use it to load or prepare to load our OSes.

    I can't agree more than you to find steps can be taken to overcome other users problem in this thread. Let's recall from those who has problems like when did they got this issue, which type of bb10 devices that affected, from which manufacturing country and so on and so forth.

    I think that will be good instead of taking an assumption of the cause from ones who doesn't have the problem.
    HarryDragon and Sator like this.
    11-25-14 06:20 AM
  19. Mecca EL's Avatar
    Wouldn't it be easy to decompile SIC, and compare the prescribed partitions? To discover if this is in fact the problem, instead of sourcing a glitched device?
    toobs623 likes this.
    11-25-14 06:45 AM
  20. HarryDragon's Avatar
    Lol honestly i dont even know we'll see when the phone boots up, i had to do it over the web, Link wouldn't work. Found it to be 10.2.1.2976


    1. Revert to Official OS - Done
    2. Shrink OS- Done
    3. Install 10.3.1 via Blitz method- Done...booting up,Blue LED ..
    4. Check to see if this works- I would say it half works...see vid for more info.
    Video might take some time to finish upload. Its 20 mins long or so and was shot in 1080p
    If I may suggest, the best way to update os is through destructive method. As I always find one or two or even many bugs that shouldn't be there at the first place if using non destructive method.
    Well, that is my preference though..... Everyone has different taste....
    Mecca EL likes this.
    11-25-14 06:49 AM
  21. Rock Star1's Avatar
    I think I may be interested in loaning my device. How long do you think you might need it for?
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    11-25-14 07:02 AM
  22. wu-wei's Avatar
    Uh, SIC Wipe used a randomly chosen range. Now it looks like using cfp to erase certain ranges might help. Anyone capable of critical thought might wonder whether there is a connection. Sorry if that bothers you and your crew of lemmings, but there are people here with a real problem, and others who are trying to help them.
    Last edited by zocster; 11-25-14 at 08:26 AM. Reason: quoted deleted post
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    11-25-14 07:11 AM
  23. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Yes I am one of the author,

    I think that will be good instead of taking an assumption of the cause from ones who doesn't have the problem.
    Why on earth do you need to decompile SIC?
    Use it when u like it. or rather dont use it at all if you dont like it.....

    And if you dont like it keep it to yourself. If you like it and you feel like it, share it.....
    That's a man's way.....
    I think y'all are starting to take this way too personally. No one accused your program of being the cause. We have no idea at this point what the cause might be, and are making suggestions of any possibility we can think of. SIC, being something that certainly could be the cause, along with cfp itself, since either could have left something behind, regardless how well the code was written, because as all of us pros know, no matter what, crap happens.

    Take pride in your app, but don't be so prideful as to disregard reality.
    Mecca EL and toobs623 like this.
    11-25-14 07:11 AM
  24. clie610's Avatar
    I think y'all are starting to take this way too personally. No one accused your program of being the cause. We have no idea at this point what the cause might be, and are making suggestions of any possibility we can think of. SIC, being something that certainly could be the cause, along with cfp itself, since either could have left something behind, regardless how well the code was written, because as all of us pros know, no matter what, crap happens.

    Take pride in your app, but don't be so prideful as to disregard reality.
    Thank you to remind everyone of us about pride. From our side it is not about pride, it was because we do look at the reality that the affected devices includes one/some who never use SIC.
    11-25-14 07:18 AM
  25. habs_fan's Avatar
    I guess this comes back to you personally..... If you dont know what are you talking about then talk.... It gives other people a headache.....
    Lol I can't believe you even think that he doesn't know what he's talking about lol wow

    Commander and Chief of the Peevishlicious Crew
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    11-25-14 07:33 AM
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