04-19-15 09:06 AM
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  1. Dave79's Avatar
    Now they just need to go completely crazy, and add back the backup/restore feature.
    And charge for it!
    04-16-15 06:34 AM
  2. shorski's Avatar
    And charge for it!
    And why would they want to do that?

    z30sta100-2/10.3.2.281
    04-16-15 07:26 AM
  3. kbz1960's Avatar
    And why would they want to do that?

    z30sta100-2/10.3.2.281
    Same reason they want to charge for things in BBM? I agree with you shorski but a lot here want them to charge for everything to make up lost BIS revenue. Bad call!
    04-16-15 07:29 AM
  4. Dave79's Avatar
    And why would they want to do that?
    They're not a charity organization. They lost the BIS they need to sell some other services: stickers, custom pins, no ads...perhaps a BlackBerry Pretected with remote backup and restore too.


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    04-16-15 07:31 AM
  5. kbz1960's Avatar
    They're not a charity organization. They lost the BIS they need to sell some other services: stickers, custom pins, no ads...perhaps a BlackBerry Pretected with remote backup and restore too.


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    See.
    04-16-15 07:35 AM
  6. James Blight's Avatar
    How would this work in a corporate environment where we occasionally move devices around? E.g. I passed my z10 to a new hire and was upgraded to a z30.

    I mean, once 10.3.2 is released.

    Z30 STA100-5 on OS 10.3.1.2726 / SR 10.3.1.1877
    04-16-15 08:05 AM
  7. Dave79's Avatar
    How would this work in a corporate environment where we occasionally move devices around? E.g. I passed my z10 to a new hire and was upgraded to a z30.

    I mean, once 10.3.2 is released.
    Im sure there will be a way to release the device from a BBID, probably serve side before wiping?


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    04-16-15 08:34 AM
  8. mad_mdx's Avatar
    How would this work in a corporate environment where we occasionally move devices around? E.g. I passed my z10 to a new hire and was upgraded to a z30.

    I mean, once 10.3.2 is released.

    Z30 STA100-5 on OS 10.3.1.2726 / SR 10.3.1.1877
    You can still change your BlackBerry id... but you need to know the password
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    04-16-15 08:34 AM
  9. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    And charge for it!
    Can't charge for Government mandated functionality. This would be the BlackBerry equivalent to the "Kill Switch" mandated by California law I believe it is.
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    04-16-15 09:02 AM
  10. Dave79's Avatar
    Can't charge for Government mandated functionality. This would be the BlackBerry equivalent to the "Kill Switch" mandated by California law I believe it is.
    We were talking about cloud backup and restore built-in - they can charge for extra features.
    04-16-15 09:11 AM
  11. 1magine's Avatar
    Im sure there will be a way to release the device from a BBID, probably serve side before wiping?


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    BES admin would need to know the BBID and password - noone should ever give that out.
    04-16-15 10:08 AM
  12. 1magine's Avatar
    You can still change your BlackBerry id... but you need to know the password
    You are misunderstanding. I give Joe a Z10. Joe resigns and turns in his device. I wipe the device and hand it to Amy who just started - whoops - Amy does not have Joe's BBID and Password. My corporate device is now useless.
    04-16-15 10:10 AM
  13. mhhH4RI's Avatar
    You are misunderstanding. I give Joe a Z10. Joe resigns and turns in his device. I wipe the device and hand it to Amy who just started - whoops - Amy does not have Joe's BBID and Password. My corporate device is now useless.
    You can't wipe the device without entering BBID password.

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    04-16-15 10:28 AM
  14. 1magine's Avatar
    You can't wipe the device without entering BBID password.

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    Interesting. So IT must get users to wipe their device prior to returning them. And that allows a new user to enter a new BBID?
    04-16-15 10:30 AM
  15. mhhH4RI's Avatar
    Interesting. So IT must get users to wipe their device prior to returning them. And that allows a new user to enter a new BBID?
    The simplest way is to tell user to turn BlackBerry Protect off then he/she may leave after security wipe is started to ensure his/her data is deleted.

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    04-16-15 10:38 AM
  16. Fool Guy's Avatar
    Good on security side but bad for used phone market ? Specially when someone makes a hasty purchase or unaware of this new feature.
    04-16-15 10:46 AM
  17. Fret Madden's Avatar
    Good on security side but bad for used phone market ? Specially when someone makes a hasty purchase or unaware of this new feature.
    I'd say they could add warnings, but the fact that not all users can read or would pause to read such warnings is abundantly clear over in the "End Chat" thread.
    gvs1341 likes this.
    04-16-15 10:56 AM
  18. shorski's Avatar
    Good on security side but bad for used phone market ? Specially when someone makes a hasty purchase or unaware of this new feature.
    This is a new feature with BB10 and with time, the awareness will be general. The "find my iphone" feature was not known by everyone in the world at the same time, it is a matter of time. And I'm sure Blackberry will speak about this feature in one of their upcoming events to create the awareness for people.
    And you can also help by passing the information around.
    04-16-15 11:01 AM
  19. rthonpm's Avatar
    You are misunderstanding. I give Joe a Z10. Joe resigns and turns in his device. I wipe the device and hand it to Amy who just started - whoops - Amy does not have Joe's BBID and Password. My corporate device is now useless.
    It's been my understanding that BES policies will override some of the features of BlackBerry protect since they're also baked into BES. More than likely, the BES admin can just remove the association of device X with User Y, and re-deploy it as they see fit. Just like a Windows domain admin has a little more control over a PC on their domain, a BES admin is going to have a little more power over a device.
    Thunderbuck likes this.
    04-16-15 11:17 AM
  20. James Blight's Avatar
    The simplest way is to tell user to turn BlackBerry Protect off then he/she may leave after security wipe is started to ensure his/her data is deleted.

    Posted via CB10
    That's fine in a controlled departure, but what about a "Billy left his keys and phone on his desk and walked out" scenario?

    Maybe BES activation had a built in solution, but it won't fly corporately if a departed users device is a paperweight.

    Z30 STA100-5 on OS 10.3.1.2726 / SR 10.3.1.1877
    04-16-15 11:47 AM
  21. James Blight's Avatar
    It's been my understanding that BES policies will override some of the features of BlackBerry protect since they're also baked into BES. More than likely, the BES admin can just remove the association of device X with User Y, and re-deploy it as they see fit. Just like a Windows domain admin has a little more control over a PC on their domain, a BES admin is going to have a little more power over a device.
    I would guess this is the case, but it will be interesting to see. I will test this later with my z30 on 10.3.2, but it may not apply since I am not a beta tester.

    Z30 STA100-5 on OS 10.3.1.2726 / SR 10.3.1.1877
    04-16-15 11:49 AM
  22. dcorx's Avatar
    Apple does the same thing with their appleID. Nice to see it coming to bb10

    Posted via CB10
    04-16-15 12:41 PM
  23. pittster's Avatar
    corporate issued device shouldn't have any personal information on it and is corporate owned (corp has all info that is entered on device).
    BYOD is the employee personal phone provisioned for work. All work related data wiped at the push of the button from employer. Employer can care less where the phone is left or about the bbid related to device.

    Let me know if it sounds confusing
    04-16-15 01:07 PM
  24. CharlieV's Avatar
    Will one or two of you geniuses tell me what this is all about in language a toddler can understand? I read the article but I don't understand what all of the whoohoo-ing and wiping is about. I'm on 10.3.2.xx but I got it here, not from BB.
    04-16-15 01:13 PM
  25. zephyr613's Avatar
    You can still change your BlackBerry id... but you need to know the password
    That prompts a question - what if the device wipes using the beta Protect, but your BBID password is kept in your Password Keeper on the device...

    Then what?
    04-16-15 01:24 PM
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