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  1. GP540's Avatar
    Let's put it this way guys.

    Currently there is a .1052

    There is currently no release for bb10 "legacy devices."

    What if anything we might see will be a PP os and we will probably have to take a radio file to make it work...or not work, we'll see.


    Let's just end the debate and come to the conclusion that it will come when it comes.


    My theory when the 10.3.1 dev os comes out which I believe is either this week (hence talk of "leak" and having to wait for it maybe someone wants it to be usable for "legacy bb10 devices ")

    Or was it a September plan for 10.3.1 which would make sense seeing as Germany says no passport till September.




    Just my theory with a little bit of insight from my local carrier / ex employer.



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    08-13-14 08:23 PM
  2. josh74's Avatar
    Let's put it this way guys.

    Currently there is a .1052

    There is currently no release for bb10 "legacy devices."

    What if anything we might see will be a PP os and we will probably have to take a radio file to make it work...or not work, we'll see.


    Let's just end the debate and come to the conclusion that it will come when it comes.


    My theory when the 10.3.1 dev os comes out which I believe is either this week (hence talk of "leak" and having to wait for it maybe someone wants it to be usable for "legacy bb10 devices ")

    Or was it a September plan for 10.3.1 which would make sense seeing as Germany says no passport till September.




    Just my theory with a little bit of insight from my local carrier / ex employer.



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    Exactly.....
    08-13-14 08:26 PM
  3. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    My theory when the 10.3.1 dev os comes out which I believe is either this week (hence talk of "leak" and having to wait for it maybe someone wants it to be usable for "legacy bb10 devices ")

    Or was it a September plan for 10.3.1 which would make sense seeing as Germany says no passport till September.

    Just my theory with a little bit of insight from my local carrier / ex employer.
    I think you're interchanging 10.3 and 10.3.1 OS. 10.3 is only officially coming to the Passport when it "launches" in September.

    10.3.1 beta SDK is targeted mostly at the Classic and the rest of the existing BB10 portfolio. It will be made available this month to give time for developers to get their apps ready for use with the returning toolbelt. 10.3.1 should officially launch with the Classic around November.

    Also, I think Vodafone Germany said October for the Passport.

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    08-13-14 08:34 PM
  4. AbAll87's Avatar
    I really think we are leak addicts lol... Even though it's Wednesday night and Thursday morning in other areas, we are already making all kind of assumptions...

    If that leak do drop this week, we will see lots of happy campers!!!
    josh74 and Flatman like this.
    08-13-14 08:41 PM
  5. anon721037's Avatar
    I really think we are leak addicts lol... Even though it's Wednesday night and Thursday morning in other areas, we are already making all kind of assumptions...

    If that leak do drop this week, we will see lots of happy campers!!!
    I like camping, but I crave leaks.
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    08-13-14 08:43 PM
  6. f0xG3's Avatar
    Technically, 10.3 and 10.3.1 should be binary compatible across all BB10 phones with the exception of STL1 which requires it's own version of the 10.3 and 10.3.1 OS.

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH
    08-13-14 08:53 PM
  7. ad19's Avatar
    Even if we can get the 10.3 OS for the Passport and then use an older radio I will be happy.
    08-13-14 08:59 PM
  8. DYLANHABKIRK's Avatar
    Even if we can get the 10.3 OS for the Passport and then use an older radio I will be happy.
    You can't use a Passport OS on anything but.

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    08-13-14 09:05 PM
  9. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    Technically, 10.3 and 10.3.1 should be binary compatible across all BB10 phones with the exception of STL1 which requires it's own version of the 10.3 and 10.3.1 OS.

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH

    Hope you're right. I thought the PP had a different chip, much like the stl 100-1 was a outlier.

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    08-13-14 09:08 PM
  10. Uzi's Avatar
    Hope you're right. I thought the PP had a different chip, much like the stl 100-1 was a outlier.

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    Yup pp is different chip

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    08-13-14 09:09 PM
  11. fly_in_wind's Avatar
    It is Thursday! How many days can be left in this week!

    Posted via CB10
    08-13-14 09:21 PM
  12. f0xG3's Avatar
    Yup pp is different chip

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    You mean the Qualcomm chip in the current BB's are different with that of the one in Passport? And I thought PP is also a Qualcomm-based phone.

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH
    08-13-14 09:23 PM
  13. jimpilot's Avatar
    Yup pp is different chip

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    Usman you're in the future, tell us if it's going to leak

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    08-13-14 09:24 PM
  14. josh74's Avatar
    Im still trying to figure out who said that there would be a leak this week.
    08-13-14 09:24 PM
  15. shorski's Avatar
    It is Thursday! How many days can be left in this week!

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    3 more days

    Blackberry z30 OS 10.3.0.700
    08-13-14 09:25 PM
  16. AbAll87's Avatar
    Im still trying to figure out who said that there would be a leak this week.
    well definitely someone in N4BB as you can tell in the first post
    08-13-14 09:26 PM
  17. shorski's Avatar
    Im still trying to figure out who said that there would be a leak this week.
    You haven't been reading.
    N4BB said there would be a leak. They just didn't say if it's 10.3 or 10.3.1 or 10.2.2 or even 10.2.1
    All they noted was they don't mess with SDKs

    Blackberry z30 OS 10.3.0.700
    08-13-14 09:27 PM
  18. Uzi's Avatar
    You mean the Qualcomm chip in the current BB's are different with that of the one in Passport? And I thought PP is also a Qualcomm-based phone.

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH
    Yes different version

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    08-13-14 09:27 PM
  19. f0xG3's Avatar
    What kind of copies does BlackBerry push to their beta testers anyways? 10.3.0 optimized for existing Qualcomm devices?

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH
    08-13-14 09:30 PM
  20. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    Hope you're right. I thought the PP had a different chip, much like the stl 100-1 was a outlier.

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    Yup pp is different chip

    Posted via CB10
    You mean the Qualcomm chip in the current BB's are different with that of the one in Passport? And I thought PP is also a Qualcomm-based phone.

    Q10 | Q10SQN100-3/10.2.2.1531 | Globe PH
    Yes different version

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    To all of you:
    To my knowledge it doesn't matter about which QC chip as the architecture of how it interacts with the chip hasn't changed. The only outlying device is STL100-1, the rest all use the same base QC chipset style (in the sense of how any x86 OS will work on any x86 chipset).
    I could be wrong but that's my understanding of it, so the PP OS should work the same on any other device (firmware-wise, it may have other quirks due to screen differentiation's or OTHER hardware compatibilities beyond the chipset) besides the STL100-1.
    08-13-14 09:35 PM
  21. CMcRob's Avatar
    You are dating yourself with the Gong Show reference. Most people here probably didn't have a clue where that came from. For that matter, most people here probably have never heard of the Gong Show!

    Sorry to be off topic...
    Although some of us would have been happy to leave that under the rug

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    08-13-14 09:43 PM
  22. Uzi's Avatar
    To all of you:
    To my knowledge it doesn't matter about which QC chip as the architecture of how it interacts with the chip hasn't changed. The only outlying device is STL100-1, the rest all use the same base QC chipset style (in the sense of how any x86 OS will work on any x86 chipset).
    I could be wrong but that's my understanding of it, so the PP OS should work the same on any other device (firmware-wise, it may have other quirks due to screen differentiation's or OTHER hardware compatibilities beyond the chipset) besides the STL100-1.
    Adam has tried it 686 os passport to load to other devices and it soft brick the device that's why he leaked the bar only

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    08-13-14 09:44 PM
  23. josh74's Avatar
    well definitely someone in N4BB as you can tell in the first post
    Yeah thats what I thought, definately dont hold your breath.
    08-13-14 09:46 PM
  24. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    Adam has tried it 686 os passport to load to other devices and it soft brick the device that's why he leaked the bar only

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    Oh really, okay, thanks for the info..
    That's weird though, I hadn't thought they'd made any drastic changes to the chipset architecture :/
    08-13-14 09:47 PM
  25. josh74's Avatar
    You haven't been reading.
    N4BB said there would be a leak. They just didn't say if it's 10.3 or 10.3.1 or 10.2.2 or even 10.2.1
    All they noted was they don't mess with SDKs

    Blackberry z30 OS 10.3.0.700
    They also still dont have a leak.
    08-13-14 09:47 PM
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