07-21-14 01:27 AM
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  1. Bash_Man's Avatar
    hey everyone,
    I was under the impression that OS 10.3 will do away with Adobe Air so BB doesn't have to pay licensing fee for it. If thats the case, then how come anytime a new leak comes out and someone posts a screen capture of the "About" Screen, it always shows "AIR Version"?

    Thanks
    07-17-14 11:48 AM
  2. cottonakin's Avatar
    I think Air is gone as of 10.3.1

    B.

    Posted via CB10
    07-17-14 12:00 PM
  3. goku_vegeta's Avatar
    I think Air is gone as of 10.3.1

    B.

    Posted via CB10
    Correct. It came out in a developer newsletter a while back.

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    07-17-14 12:09 PM
  4. bandpass's Avatar
    It is a mistake to remove it. It is one of BB10's unique selling points.
    07-17-14 01:35 PM
  5. mad_mdx's Avatar
    Adobe air is junk... every app that runs on it runs extremely slow. no point in keeping it
    07-17-14 01:38 PM
  6. goku_vegeta's Avatar
    It is a mistake to remove it. It is one of BB10's unique selling points.
    You may be thinking about Adobe Flash.

    Posted via CB10
    07-17-14 02:20 PM
  7. bandpass's Avatar
    You may be thinking about Adobe Flash.

    Posted via CB10
    Adobe Air can execute Flex programs.
    07-17-14 02:28 PM
  8. Bash_Man's Avatar
    Thanks everyone.
    07-17-14 02:42 PM
  9. chromerover's Avatar
    Maybe it could be running more faster without air. ..

    Posted via my Z30
    07-18-14 10:05 AM
  10. Raestloz's Avatar
    Adobe Air can execute Flex programs.
    Flex programs are not really unique. It's basically trying to be the second Java, right down to the "it's not so great" part.

    Honestly if possible AIR should just go. Not Flash, HTML 5 can cry a river but it's simply not enough to compete with Flash right now in terms of functionality.

    But AIR? It's something that should not have been; it's like a Terminator with bewbs: it looks awesome on paper, but it simply much inferior when dealing with the real deals

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3247
    07-18-14 10:14 AM
  11. bandpass's Avatar
    Flex programs are not really unique. It's basically trying to be the second Java, right down to the "it's not so great" part.

    Honestly if possible AIR should just go. Not Flash, HTML 5 can cry a river but it's simply not enough to compete with Flash right now in terms of functionality.

    But AIR? It's something that should not have been; it's like a Terminator with bewbs: it looks awesome on paper, but it simply much inferior when dealing with the real deals

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3247
    Whatever. There are businesses which use Flex.
    07-18-14 11:44 AM
  12. n8tiveg's Avatar
    Businesses may use flex but businesses also used 5" floppys and beta tapes but things change Air is like trying to tread water with a parachute it's possible and some people do but it slows things down

    Posted via CB10
    07-18-14 01:12 PM
  13. bandpass's Avatar
    Going from a world where most phones had Java to the mess that it is now is going back to floppies.
    07-18-14 02:56 PM
  14. Raestloz's Avatar
    Whatever. There are businesses which use Flex.
    Completely irrelevant. AIR Applications running on PC may not be suited to run on BlackBerry 10

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3247
    07-18-14 11:42 PM
  15. bandpass's Avatar
    Completely irrelevant. AIR Applications running on PC may not be suited to run on BlackBerry 10

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3247
    Not irrelevant. The idea of writing something in AIR is to have it run not only on desktops. It doesn't matter if some company misses the point.
    07-19-14 03:17 AM
  16. TheoRadu's Avatar
    BB10 currently has 2 Air runtimes. The native one and the one built into the Android player. They are only removing the native one. Developers will still be able to develop and publish Air apps on BB10, they will just have to package them as Android apps.

    They should also get rid of the Android browser engine if possible. Why waste precious RAM with something that already exists in the core OS and is considerably better/faster?
    07-20-14 05:34 AM
  17. bandpass's Avatar
    No to repackaging AIR apps. Normal Flex applications should run just by clicking on a web page.
    07-20-14 06:15 AM
  18. TheoRadu's Avatar
    No to repackaging AIR apps. Normal Flex applications should run just by clicking on a web page.
    But Flex apps will still run in the browser. They are not removing the Flash player.
    07-20-14 06:30 AM
  19. bandpass's Avatar
    But Flex apps will still run in the browser. They are not removing the Flash player.
    But with AIR you can INSTALL the apps from the browser.
    07-20-14 06:49 AM
  20. TheoRadu's Avatar
    But with AIR you can INSTALL the apps from the browser.
    Not true. Air apps can only be installed through BlackBerry World.

    I think you're confusing Flash to Air. Flash is a player for swf content (this includes web apps built with the Flex framework) and Air is a runtime for applications built using web technologies (HTML, CSS, JavaScript and yes Flash).
    07-20-14 11:32 AM
  21. bandpass's Avatar
    Not true. Air apps can only be installed through BlackBerry World.

    I think you're confusing Flash to Air. Flash is a player for swf content (this includes web apps built with the Flex framework) and Air is a runtime for applications built using web technologies (HTML, CSS, JavaScript and yes Flash).
    Maybe you cannot currently install Flex apps from the browser in BB10 with AIR, but in theory you could (and Blackberry could provide security management for this).
    07-20-14 01:29 PM
  22. TheoRadu's Avatar
    Maybe you cannot currently install Flex apps from the browser in BB10 with AIR, but in theory you could (and Blackberry could provide security management for this).
    What you are describing is Air. Applications built with the Flex framework can be installed, but only if they are packaged as BlackBerry apps using the Air SDK. It's the same on any other platform.

    I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. We are not losing anything with this change. Flash will still exist in the browser and Air apps will still work if the developer packages them as Android apps.

    Posted via CB10
    07-20-14 04:02 PM
  23. bandpass's Avatar
    What you are describing is Air. Applications built with the Flex framework can be installed, but only if they are packaged as BlackBerry apps using the Air SDK. It's the same on any other platform.

    I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. We are not losing anything with this change. Flash will still exist in the browser and Air apps will still work if the developer packages them as Android apps.

    Posted via CB10
    On the desktop you can install normal AIR apps from the browser, this is useful for businesses.
    07-20-14 04:07 PM
  24. co4nd's Avatar
    Whatever. There are businesses which use Flex.
    They shouldn't be.
    07-20-14 04:11 PM
  25. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    On the desktop you can install normal AIR apps from the browser, this is useful for businesses.
    OK but that isn't possible(on BB10) to do unless it's a apk file...

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3247
    07-20-14 04:36 PM
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