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  1. pttptppt's Avatar
    The native BB10 version stopped working after 10.3.1, and I have not been able to find it on BlackBerry World since 10.3.2. I tried emailing their support guys a couple months ago, but they simply told me that they're aware of the problem and have no ETA for a fix.

    So, yes, I'm using the Android version found on the Amazon Appstore. It works just fine actually, and the single-core scores don't seem to be hindered significantly, if at all - but for some reason it only sees two CPU cores, so the multi-core score is pretty poor.

    This seems to be a problem with the Android runtime or the OS, rather than the benchmark - AnTuTu only sees two cores as well.
    I'm pretty sure the android runtime is limited to only 2 cores and that's why

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    06-02-15 05:58 PM
  2. anon(9208252)'s Avatar
    Can I update via sachesi if I'm on 10.3.1 with core os and the radio bar and then the updated apps?

    9700/9780/Z10/Z30
    you would need all 242 apps in the debrick file, then the core os and the radio
    06-02-15 06:05 PM
  3. LazyEvul's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure the android runtime is limited to only 2 cores and that's why

    Posted via CB10
    Why would they do that? The runtime is arguably more important than ever to BB10, why limit its performance? Stranger things have happened, in fairness, but it doesn't seem right to me.

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    06-02-15 06:23 PM
  4. dorra benjaoued's Avatar
    Im on 10.3.1 if i run this one can i go back to 10.2 ?

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    06-02-15 06:23 PM
  5. Pdinos3's Avatar
    Im on 10.3.1 if i run this one can i go back to 10.2 ?

    Posted via CB10
    No

    Via CB10 Rockin PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.798
    06-02-15 06:25 PM
  6. dorra benjaoued's Avatar
    No

    Via CB10 Rockin PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.798
    Thx man you save me

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    06-02-15 06:27 PM
  7. tdyhedge's Avatar
    Why would they do that? The runtime is arguably more important than ever to BB10, why limit its performance? Stranger things have happened, in fairness, but it doesn't seem right to me.

    Posted via CB10
    Maybe because some smart person decided that some people will want to do more than play games with their phones and will actually want to take phone calls and send emails. So maybe they reserved those other 2 cores with that in mind.

    \_(ツ)_/


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    06-02-15 06:28 PM
  8. LazyEvul's Avatar
    Maybe because some smart person decided that some people will want to do more than play games with their phones and will actually want to take phone calls and send emails. So maybe they reserved those other 2 cores with that in mind.

    \_(ツ)_/


    Posted via CB10
    Since when are CPU cores purely about gaming? Everything on your phone goes through the CPU, phone calls and emails included. Limiting the runtime to two cores just prevents the OS from efficiently allocating tasks across the entire CPU - especially at a time when more and more BB10 users are being encouraged to resort to Android apps.

    To give you a scenario as an example - you have a few Android apps running. The only real "native app" you have running is the Hub, and for all intents and purposes, it's idling. Now those apps have to make do with two cores, while the Hub has access to all four but barely even needs one. That's just inefficient code and makes no sense.
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    06-02-15 06:46 PM
  9. mrjmc99's Avatar
    So how does this and the 680 run on Verizon Wireless Z10. I want to jump on board but I can't afford to replace a bricked phone

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    Runs just fine, I've been using my old Z10 on and off since. 500 no issues, my z30 for some reason has non functioning sensors, which is annoying as.... but my z10 had no issues, just finished updating my Z10 from 680 to 798 with no issues.

    Z30STA100-3/10.3.2.798
    06-02-15 06:49 PM
  10. SteelGreek's Avatar
    Since when are CPU cores purely about gaming? Everything on your phone goes through the CPU, phone calls and emails included. Limiting the runtime to two cores just prevents the OS from efficiently allocating tasks across the entire CPU - especially at a time when more and more BB10 users are being encouraged to resort to Android apps.

    To give you a scenario as an example - you have a few Android apps running. The only real "native app" you have running is the Hub, and for all intents and purposes, it's idling. Now those apps have to make do with two cores, while the Hub has access to all four but barely even needs one. That's just inefficient code and makes no sense.
    \_(ツ)_/

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    06-02-15 07:11 PM
  11. conite's Avatar
    We have no idea if the Runtime is providing the correct information to the benchmark software in the first place. This is not a conventional Android device.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.798
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    06-02-15 07:24 PM
  12. tmoore3496's Avatar
    I noticed if I use assistant to call a contact,say call. Whoever it will just call now where as before it would confirm!

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    06-02-15 07:43 PM
  13. LazyEvul's Avatar
    We have no idea if the Runtime is providing the correct information to the benchmark software in the first place. This is not a conventional Android device.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.798
    There is a noticeable drop in Geekbench multi-core scores compared to the native version - 1566 versus the 2437 I had on 10.3.0 (native version stopped working in future updates). The CPU ran about 100 MHz slower in 10.3.0 as well, so there seems to be something up with multi-core performance in the runtime - and the performance drop does seem somewhat consistent with a two-core limitation.

    It is certainly possible that there's another explanation, but I think I'm going to have to go with Occam's razor on this one.
    06-02-15 07:50 PM
  14. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    I'm quoting myself to keep this in context.

    I just talked to BB support (first level) and explained how the BT problem with Passports, or at least with my Passport, persists even through a later 10.3.2 OS that some people have even gotten OTA, and I assume these were not just beta testers. Anyway, they had me resubmit current log files through the Help app, and said they would get back to me within 24-48 hours. I asked the support person to please explain to the escalated support level that 1) I wasn't the only Passport owner to have this problem, 2) that it is worse with 10.3.2 than with 10.3.1, and 3) that now that 10.3.2 has been announced as a soon to be released OS, surely the engineers must be aware, or should be aware, of this issue, because it involves a very basic function of the phone for hands free calls while driving, etc.
    Hmm, interesting to hear.

    I'm really hoping they fix these issues everyone are having. My Pebble and AVH-200 both seem to be working for the most part fine now. The occasional disconnect, but usually nothing major.

    Just upgrading via Blitz now (it's downloading).

    Why would they do that? The runtime is arguably more important than ever to BB10, why limit its performance? Stranger things have happened, in fairness, but it doesn't seem right to me.

    Posted via CB10
    We have no idea if the Runtime is providing the correct information to the benchmark software in the first place. This is not a conventional Android device.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.798
    Now, assuming they are limiting the performance to two cores, my best guess would be to improve the productivity of the phone.

    The way BlackBerry10 works, we get proper, true native multitasking that is reliable. The QNX side of the phone rarely crashes (I've yet to ever see it happen), and because of the way it's made to run, only the app will crash and then restart if it's a part of the phone, or you have the dead active frame (greyed out like when you reboot with apps open) if it's just an ordinary app.

    The Android runtime also runs inside a virtual box so to speak, similar to a very well integrated VM (like XP Mode on Win7) if I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how it's seemed ever since PBOS), and that would mean it could never have the maximum resources that the OS contains due to the other OS running on top of it.

    Again, all speculation, we don't really know the internal software for this OS.

    Praise be unto our Lord, Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.680
    06-02-15 08:17 PM
  15. anon(9208252)'s Avatar
    Hmm, interesting to hear.

    I'm really hoping they fix these issues everyone are having. My Pebble and AVH-200 both seem to be working for the most part fine now. The occasional disconnect, but usually nothing major.

    Just upgrading via Blitz now (it's downloading).

    Praise be unto our Lord, Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.680
    Well it's still early for me, but my BT is better and I haven't had any double typing. (Keeping fingers crossed)
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    06-02-15 08:19 PM
  16. andorious's Avatar
    Sigh great time for my computer to not be working. I need this is date not cause 10.3.2.281 is getting annoying.....waits patiently for ota

    33338F80
    06-02-15 08:24 PM
  17. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    Well it's still early for me, but my BT is better and I haven't had any double typing. (Keeping fingers crossed)
    Oh you had double typing? Q10 or Passport?

    Praise be unto our Lord, Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.680
    06-02-15 08:26 PM
  18. anon(9208252)'s Avatar
    Oh you had double typing? Q10 or Passport?

    Praise be unto our Lord, Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.2.680
    Passport.
    06-02-15 08:28 PM
  19. VIP30's Avatar
    Loving the drops...
    But still too early to tell...

    OS 10.3.2.798 Findings & Fixes Thread!-img_20150603_093039.png

    OS 10.3.2.798 Findings & Fixes Thread!-img_20150603_092941.png

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    06-02-15 08:32 PM
  20. prithvi64's Avatar
    Installed successfully over beta 680. Working everything ok but build date (11 May) is worrying me since 680 was also released on same day (May 11). So, what's new in this?
    06-02-15 08:35 PM
  21. anon(9208252)'s Avatar
    Installed successfully over beta 680. Working everything ok but build date (11 May) is worrying me since 680 was also released on same day (May 11). So, what's new in this?
    Nothing it's just refined.
    06-02-15 08:37 PM
  22. yelmonster's Avatar
    On Passport:

    Was kinda hoping they'd integrate keyboard scrolling (left and right) while viewing pictures in the pictures app, like how they did it with the homescreen.

    They have the keyboard pinch to zoom in and out on the browser, but not while viewing pictures in the pictures app - this is kinda inconsistent.

    EDIT: I know about the 'P' and 'N' shortcut for previous and next in the photos app, I just think having the option to do keyboard scrolling is more intuitive. But it's all good, I can swipe from the screen alright anyway.

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    06-02-15 08:40 PM
  23. anggapw's Avatar
    Some app will no connection temporary, just restart the app,

    OS 10.3.2.798 Findings & Fixes Thread!-img_20150603_082931.png

    I tried other app same too,

    On my Z3

    Just restart, everything will be okay

    I tried for 8 hours, I'm not sure this is bug or not,


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    06-02-15 08:40 PM
  24. Akure4Life's Avatar
    Good time for my Sachesi to stop working raining

    Posted Via CB10 From My Z30 Running On OS10.3.2.680
    06-02-15 08:43 PM
  25. Ajay Chopra1's Avatar
    Some app will no connection temporary, just restart the app,

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    I tried other app same too,

    On my Z3

    Just restart, everything will be okay

    Posted via CB10
    The same happpned on 10.3.1 a quite lot. Don't find it a new issue.

    Posted Via : The Beast 'BlackBerry Z10'
    06-02-15 08:43 PM
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