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  1. MDavidB83's Avatar
    As the subject states:

    I'm a BlackBerry 10 enthusiast
    On 10.2.1.3442 z10(stl100-3)
    I've been on leaks since sept.14' and see many whining and complaining about leaks. BB10 is just as smooth as IOS!

    1) It's a leak so expect bugs and issues

    2) It's not Official!!!

    3) If you are on a older 10 smartphone (not passport or classic) expect no optimization!

    4) Sluggishness is a product of

    A) Android runtime
    B) Too many apps on your device
    Or
    C) Leak Leak Leak!!!!

    Users please do not load any apks or Amazon app store and see the smoothness of your OS and then install apks and look at the resources runtime eats constantly.

    Those who whine shouldn't load leaks!!!

    CB offers the best source of info and resources and if CB doesn't have it take then be patient!

    Thanks CB for all you do!!!

    Official vs Leaked / user stability!-mockit_11102014131729.jpg

    Posted via CB10
    01-27-15 01:57 PM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    so what happens when the leak becomes official? does that all the sudden make it work better?
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    01-27-15 02:02 PM
  3. trsbbs's Avatar
    so what happens when the leak becomes official? does that all the sudden make it work better?
    Excellent!

    I'm sure there will be a big difference.

    BlackBerry hates America!
    Last edited by trsbbs; 01-27-15 at 03:21 PM.
    01-27-15 02:08 PM
  4. Matty's Avatar
    Excellent!

    I'm sure they will their us a big difference.

    BlackBerry hates America!
    Huh?..." I'm sure they will their us" honestly can't decode this lol.

    Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.2.1.3442
    01-27-15 02:14 PM
  5. dslocumb's Avatar
    Ha! Me either...

    Posted via CB10
    01-27-15 02:18 PM
  6. MDavidB83's Avatar
    The official is all BlackBerry and not an unfinished leak. That is also the delay of the official 10.3.1 release because of the bugs and
    Stability. That's what makes official better.

    Posted via CB10
    01-27-15 02:35 PM
  7. BlackScorpion3's Avatar
    The official is all BlackBerry and not an unfinished leak. That is also the delay of the official 10.3.1 release because of the bugs and
    Stability. That's what makes official better.

    Posted via CB10
    Well, this is a matter of one persons opinion. I have used leaks since Legacy days. And I can tell you that officials have just as many bugs. You will never have a bug free OS or app for that matter.

    What OS I'm on is my business, get off my NUTS! Ex-BerryLeaks member (best group ever)
    01-27-15 02:37 PM
  8. Legal Eagle's Avatar
    The official is all BlackBerry and not an unfinished leak. That is also the delay of the official 10.3.1 release because of the bugs and
    Stability. That's what makes official better.

    Posted via CB10
    So what OS is the Classic running on, could have sworn that it was an OFFICIAL 10.3.1.1154 OS !!!

    I seem to have the same OS on my Passport so I must have an Official Leak LOL
    01-27-15 02:38 PM
  9. howards's Avatar
    MDavid, while I don't necessarily disagree with some of your statements, you may want to be here on CB a bit longer before lecturing. Always glad to see BlackBerry enthusiasts.

    Z30 / STA 100-3 / 10.2.1.3289
    01-27-15 02:38 PM
  10. trsbbs's Avatar
    Huh?..." I'm sure they will their us" honestly can't decode this lol.

    Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.2.1.3442
    Thanks to BlackBerry spell check.

    BlackBerry hates America!
    01-27-15 03:22 PM
  11. joeldf's Avatar
    Well, this is a matter of one persons opinion. I have used leaks since Legacy days. And I can tell you that officials have just as many bugs. You will never have a bug free OS or app for that matter.

    What OS I'm on is my business, get off my NUTS! Ex-BerryLeaks member (best group ever)
    Totally agree with BlackScorpion3 on this.

    I've also had many leaked and official OSs on my Z10, and all have been relatively smooth, but none have been totally bug-free.

    In fact, had I stayed with the official OS AT&T wanted to keep me on back in the 10.1 days, I'd have one of the buggiest builds ever for almost a year while they skipped 10.2 and didn't update until well into the 10.2.1 era.

    So, sorry OP, but your lecture falls on deaf ears here and is based on mostly inaccurate information.

    Posted via CB10
    01-27-15 03:23 PM
  12. MDavidB83's Avatar
    Totally agree with BlackScorpion3 on this.

    I've also had many leaked and official OSs on my Z10, and all have been relatively smooth, but none have been totally bug-free.

    In fact, had I stayed with the official OS AT&T wanted to keep me on back in the 10.1 days, I'd have one of the buggiest builds ever for almost a year while they skipped 10.2 and didn't update until well into the 10.2.1 era.

    So, sorry OP, but your lecture falls on deaf ears here and is based on mostly inaccurate information.

    Posted via CB10
    All Intel and information is based on heavily using and experience. I've been on mobile since the Palm Trio / Nokia 6000 days and always tested new builds.

    I was merely stating the answers to frequent complaints of Sluggishness or lag. Bugs are in all OS's this I agree with, but as of this moment in BB10 on non passport/classic devices 10.2.1.3442 is the sweet spot.

    I don't add carrier into the equation as that is not the OS itself and is not apart of the core experience.

    I challenge anyone to run 10.2.1.3442 without installing any apks (apps and app stores i.e amazon), and see the smoothness of OS.

    Bugs are extremely minor on this build. The leaks are not yet optimized for sub passport /classic 10 devices which causes glitches and issues.

    Posted via CB10
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    01-27-15 06:06 PM
  13. MDavidB83's Avatar
    I'm simply mediating the whiners about why their expectations are over blown.

    Yes the classic did come with an official build..wait for it... Optimized for the Classic!!!

    10.3 for Passport
    10.3.1 as of this moment for Classic.

    The delay of the 10.3.1 release is due to optimization.

    Posted via CB10
    01-27-15 06:13 PM
  14. QWKSNKE's Avatar

    I challenge anyone to run 10.2.1.3442 without installing any apks (apps and app stores i.e amazon), and see the smoothness of OS.

    Posted via CB10
    But in order for me to use 10.2.1.3442, I would have to download a leaked version as it is not official by my carrier.
    So, no thanks, I will keep my 10.3.1.2072, use my apks with a smooth OS and be much better off than running any 10.2.1 dinosaur OS that does not run apks as efficiently.

    STL-4. 10.3.1.2072
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    01-27-15 06:46 PM
  15. bungaboy's Avatar
    so what happens when the leak becomes official? does that all the sudden make it work better?
    Do these come naturally?
    01-27-15 07:01 PM
  16. deezy87's Avatar
    so what happens when the leak becomes official? does that all the sudden make it work better?
    As soon as it became official, my battery life tripled!



    Official vs Leaked / user stability!-hqdefault.jpg
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    01-27-15 10:44 PM
  17. MDavidB83's Avatar
    As soon as it became official, my battery life tripled!



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    Thx Deezy87

    Posted via CB10
    01-28-15 01:32 AM
  18. Uzi's Avatar
    Op leak and official is the same Os

    No one can tampered BlackBerry OS, it comes from BlackBerry


    I use PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2072 no issue at all

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2072
    01-28-15 01:38 AM
  19. arifbsantoso's Avatar
    2072 on my Q10.

    Posted via CB10
    01-28-15 01:43 AM
  20. joeldf's Avatar
    Never mind. Decided not to go there.
    Uzi likes this.
    01-28-15 10:52 AM
  21. will308's Avatar
    The official is all BlackBerry and not an unfinished leak. That is also the delay of the official 10.3.1 release because of the bugs and
    Stability. That's what makes official better.

    Posted via CB10
    cant say that I have had any problems to be talked about when I have loaded a leak .............and some times an official os can have problems as well just look what happened to some iphone users when they loaded the newest os ...........
    01-29-15 07:02 AM
  22. HotFix's Avatar
    Op leak and official is the same Os

    No one can tampered BlackBerry OS, it comes from BlackBerry


    I use PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2072 no issue at all

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2072
    Sorry to keep belaboring this point with you but a leak is not an officially released by BlackBerry. It's officially from BlackBerry because they made it but that's about the only thing that's official about it. I work for a major software company and the accepted vernacular in the industry is something is an official release when it is publicly distributed by the vendor which in this case the leaks aren't. I'm just trying to keep people from getting confused when they see statements that leaks are "official".

    Posted via CB10 on Z30STA100-5/10.3.1.1949
    01-29-15 07:28 AM
  23. HotFix's Avatar
    cant say that I have had any problems to be talked about when I have loaded a leak .............and some times an official os can have problems as well just look what happened to some iphone users when they loaded the newest os ...........
    The general rule of thumb I have picked up from CrackBerry is the build versions 10.#.#.1 through 1000 are often very buggy and are only for the brave/those who don't mind their phones not working.
    10.#.#.1001 through 2000 are generally pretty stable and have some bugs but are mostly use able.
    10.#.#.2001 and later are generally quality builds, and while there may be some bugs left they only affect a small population of the world.

    Those are just guidelines and not hard and fast rules though, so people always need to determine of they are willing to work with a non or partially working device and as always use at their own risk.

    Posted via CB10 on Z30STA100-5/10.3.1.1949
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    01-29-15 07:35 AM
  24. dpeters11's Avatar
    Sorry to keep belaboring this point with you but a leak is not an officially released by BlackBerry. It's officially from BlackBerry because they made it but that's about the only thing that's official about it. I work for a major software company and the accepted vernacular in the industry is something is an official release when it is publicly distributed by the vendor which in this case the leaks aren't. I'm just trying to keep people from getting confused when they see statements that leaks are "official".

    Posted via CB10 on Z30STA100-5/10.3.1.1949
    But, if a leak is the same build number as the version that is released, then the leak and the official are the same. If there were changes, there would be a different build number.
    01-29-15 09:06 AM
  25. hverduyckt's Avatar
    What are the new things in latest build compared to 1154?

    Thank you for your answer

    Posted via CB10
    01-29-15 09:31 AM
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