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  1. davide445's Avatar
    Just bought today my first BB, a Z10.

    Coming from a life of Nokia, mostly Enterprise series device that dead this Sunday.

    My first test of BB 10.0 was not so successful and I decided to maintain my Nokia. Now I'm jumping in and my handset will arrive tomorrow.

    Question: make sense for me to install directly the new leaked 10.2.1.x before importing any contact, appointments, notes? Will I have problems when the official version will be available in January?

    I want the latest release since I read it's much better than the 10.2, BB10 is so young every release bring many improvements and makes all easier to use.
    Last edited by davide445; 12-17-13 at 08:00 AM.
    12-17-13 07:29 AM
  2. senel's Avatar
    I think its better to install leak first because you dont have to set up device twice.

    If you choose to set up device first, then backup (via Link), then install leak, restore can be potentially dangerous and can affect device performance in negative way (bugs, lags,...).

    To second question: I came from 10.2 leak to 10.2 official via OTA without any problems, so I guess it`s gonna be same.
    12-17-13 07:45 AM
  3. davide445's Avatar
    The installation it's easy? It's the first time I have a BB10 so no experience at all.
    12-17-13 07:48 AM
  4. senel's Avatar
    Yep, its pretty easy. You will find here on forum latest leak for your device (be careful of device version!) - latest is 10.2.1.1055. Its .exe file (so you need Windows PC) and only thing you do is that you connect phone to PC and run the .exe file.

    Leak: http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...evices-873653/

    Download Full OS autoloader (with radio) - for Z10 (STL100-2/3/4): https://mega.co.nz/#!j1AX1JpL!SsRF9W...EFtkdRN5HbDHJY
    12-17-13 07:51 AM
  5. LopeZ10's Avatar
    I think its better to install leak first because you dont have to set up device two times.

    To second question: I came from 10.2 leak to 10.2 official via OTA without any problems, so I guess it`s gonna be same.
    +1 on this. It will be better to install the leak and the set up your accounts. But remember you have to do a first run and check bbm and all those stuff so they are working after the leak
    12-17-13 07:53 AM
  6. davide445's Avatar
    +1 on this. It will be better to install the leak and the set up your accounts. But remember you have to do a first run and check bbm and all those stuff so they are working after the leak
    So I need first to create BB accounts?
    12-17-13 07:56 AM
  7. davide445's Avatar
    Yep, its pretty easy. You will find here on forum latest leak for your device (be careful of device version!) - latest is 10.2.1.1055. Its .exe file (so you need Windows PC) and only thing you do is that you connect phone to PC and run the .exe file.

    Leak: http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...evices-873653/

    Download Full OS autoloader (with radio) - for Z10 (STL100-2/3/4): https://mega.co.nz/#!j1AX1JpL!SsRF9W...EFtkdRN5HbDHJY
    What's the difference between Radios and Autoloader?
    12-17-13 07:57 AM
  8. anon1727506's Avatar
    Yes I'd vote that you should install it.

    Is it perfect and bug free... no, but neither is any of the "official" versions of BB10. But 10.2.1 and the ability to run "many" (but not all) Andoird apps is a HUGE improvment and adds much more functionalit to your device.

    So install 10.2.1 and then Sideload http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...-2-1-a-874153/
    12-17-13 07:57 AM
  9. senel's Avatar
    So I need first to create BB accounts?
    You will be asked to to enter BBID (or create) at first setup - so it doesnt matter if you create your BBID on 10.2 or 10.2.1 leak.

    + you can use partially your device without BBID.
    12-17-13 07:58 AM
  10. davide445's Avatar
    You will be asked to to enter BBID (or create) at first setup - so it doesnt matter if you create your BBID on 10.2 or 10.2.1 leak.

    + you can use partially your device without BBID.
    I don't know if the device will arrive with 10.2 already installed or with 10.0 or 10.1. If not, need I to first install official updates till 10.2 or can I install directly 10.2.1.x?
    12-17-13 08:02 AM
  11. senel's Avatar
    I don't know if the device will arrive with 10.2 already installed or with 10.0 or 10.1. If not, need I to first install official updates till 10.2 or can I install directly 10.2.1.x?
    you can install it directly.

    What is radio: http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...dio-off-38877/

    Autoloader is file (app) which contains OS + radio and flashs them both to your device.
    12-17-13 08:04 AM
  12. LWKING's Avatar
    I actually disagree. As a new user, I think you should upgrade to the more stable 10.2.0.1809. You won't have any bugs and its a huge improvement over 10.0. 10.2.1.1055 does hold improvements over 10.2.0.xxxx, but it is not bug free.

    I'm currently running 10.2.0.1803 with no issues. I ran 10.2.1.1055 for about a week and downgraded because of the bugs. It's not unbearable, I just had interviews and wanted to make sure everything worked properly.

    Posted with my Q10!
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    12-17-13 08:06 AM
  13. davide445's Avatar
    I actually disagree. As a new user, I think you should upgrade to the more stable 10.2.0.1809. You won't have any bugs and its a huge improvement over 10.0. 10.2.1.1055 does hold improvements over 10.2.0.xxxx, but it is not bug free.

    I'm currently running 10.2.0.1803 with no issues. I ran 10.2.1.1055 for about a week and downgraded because of the bugs. It's not unbearable, I just had interviews and wanted to make sure everything worked properly.

    Posted with my Q10!
    There are huge differences from 10.2.0.x to 10.2.1.x in term of usability?
    If it's only for Android app I'm not so interested (but maybe will be knowing exactly what it's available out of the box). If the ease of use the system it's much better I can take the risk. The 10.0 version I tested was really bad in term of usability.
    My primary interest are contacts, notes and calendar appointments.
    12-17-13 08:12 AM
  14. davide445's Avatar
    you can install it directly.

    What is radio: http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...dio-off-38877/

    Autoloader is file (app) which contains OS + radio and flashs them both to your device.
    From this article appear that radio is something such as "Airplane mode" I know from my iPad.
    Can't understand what does mean from a OS update point of view.
    Maybe mean OTA update vs update from PC?
    12-17-13 08:14 AM
  15. senel's Avatar
    Performace compared to 10.2 is same for me - battery life is maybe little bit better. There are few bugs like blinking sensor but its not bug deal, I use it as daily driver.

    10.2 vs 10.2.1 leak: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=blackberry+10.2.1+features
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    12-17-13 08:15 AM
  16. davide445's Avatar
    Ok thanks I will study a bit more what to do
    12-17-13 08:41 AM
  17. NaijaBerry's Avatar
    Yup definitely, install the leak first, then go ahead and search the forum on how to sideload Droid Store, and your app woes will be over with direct access and install of Google Play apps (free ones for now)! A note of warning though, give the OS a few days to settle in, if you've got lots of contacts and email addresses, there will be a lot of heating up and possibly a few jerks, but after that......swipe your way blissfully!!
    12-17-13 08:47 AM
  18. davide445's Avatar
    Yup definitely, install the leak first, then go ahead and search the forum on how to sideload Droid Store, and your app woes will be over with direct access and install of Google Play apps (free ones for now)! A note of warning though, give the OS a few days to settle in, if you've got lots of contacts and email addresses, there will be a lot of heating up and possibly a few jerks, but after that......swipe your way blissfully!!
    Apologize to stress this point, but I don't buy BB to install Android apps...
    My primary interest it's about the general usability and stability of BB OS10 and native apps such as, calendar, notes, email, VoIP solutions
    12-17-13 09:45 AM
  19. joeldf's Avatar
    I know you're getting a lot of suggestions, so I'll add to the noise .

    I think the new customizations to the Hub and quick settings pull down justify the move to 10.2.1. The Hub does affect usability and organization of the emails. Calendar works fine. I don't use notes or VoIP ( someone else will have to guide you through that). The ability to directly load android apps is just a plus. But it did allow me to load the time sheet filling app that ties to the office time sheet program - they only had Apple and Android app versions, so at least I wasn't left out.

    When you first start your phone, it will check for updates on its own. I don't think you can bypass that. Let it do it if there is one. It will take a while. But once you're done, you can then load the new OS.

    Definitely load the OS fresh before actually using it, then set up your accounts like emails and contact syncing. Then you can install whatever programs you want - BB World apps initially, then android once you feel adventurous.

    If you make all accounts first after the initial phone setup, then back it up, then load a new OS, then restore, it will cause problems.



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    12-17-13 10:25 AM
  20. QWKSNKE's Avatar
    I actually disagree. As a new user, I think you should upgrade to the more stable 10.2.0.1809. You won't have any bugs and its a huge improvement over 10.0. 10.2.1.1055 does hold improvements over 10.2.0.xxxx, but it is not bug free.

    I'm currently running 10.2.0.1803 with no issues. I ran 10.2.1.1055 for about a week and downgraded because of the bugs. It's not unbearable, I just had interviews and wanted to make sure everything worked properly.

    Posted with my Q10!
    I agree. Install and run1809 until a more stable 10.2.1 is released

    Posted via CB10. 10.2.0.1791
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    12-17-13 10:48 AM
  21. jimk345's Avatar
    I agree. Install and run1809 until a more stable 10.2.1 is released

    Posted via CB10. 10.2.0.1791
    I agree also. The low music volume bug on 1055 and battery life was a deal killer for me. I went back to 10.2.0.1803 and I am happier.

    Posted via CB10
    12-17-13 11:31 AM
  22. WanShark69's Avatar
    I love the 1055. The swipe down options, the apps you use to monitor the battery usage, one market... if all these options coincide the z10 release moons ago, BlackBerry wouldn't have to write off that millions of dollars.

    Encrypted via OS 10.2.1.1055 on my Z10
    12-17-13 11:39 AM
  23. bluelights's Avatar
    I love 10.2.1.1055 and the only issue which is a bit of a pain is the accounts page bug, however, if you setup all of your email, Facebook, Twitter etc accounts at the start when you first boot after installing 10.2.1.1055 you will be fine.

    Battery on my z30 is 1.5 - 2 days on this leak, all the other small bugs are not to serious.

    I love this build and I can only imagine how much better it's going to be with the next leak.



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    12-17-13 11:58 AM
  24. davide445's Avatar
    Quite a lot of different suggestions , but thanks it's useful to discuss different point of view to better understand.

    I think I will stay safe and install only the latest official 10.2.0.x release. I can then import all my contacts and so.

    If I later understand I NEED really the 10.2.1.x leaked I can simply wipe all the contacts and setup, start again from scratch and redo all the process. Hope only I will find usability of 10.2.0.x good, better than 10.0 that push me to don't buy BB at the time.
    12-17-13 12:16 PM
  25. anon(5818411)'s Avatar
    Just bought today my first BB, a Z10.

    Coming from a life of Nokia, mostly Enterprise series device that dead this Sunday.

    My first test of BB 10.0 was not so successful and I decided to maintain my Nokia. Now I'm jumping in and my handset will arrive tomorrow.

    Question: make sense for me to install directly the new leaked 10.2.1.x before importing any contact, appointments, notes? Will I have problems when the official version will be available in January?

    I want the latest release since I read it's much better than the 10.2, BB10 is so young every release bring many improvements and makes all easier to use.
    Step 1: backup everything with firechest or contacts with intouch or contacts x(paid)
    P.S. Don't back up using link use a 3rd party source like i've listed
    Step 2: download 10.2.1.1055 with your model number
    Step 3: link on OS in your downloads folder.
    Step 4: restore your info

    It's just as easy as upgrading it officially.

    The only bug I am experiencing is facebook slow to load from the hub which is annoying but this is light years ahead of 10.2

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    12-17-13 12:17 PM
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