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  1. ATV_Hightower's Avatar
    The very final question is:
    Could Apple make profit with an iOS Runtime for BlackBerry?

    I think the answer is NO.
    Why?
    apple has two ways of making money:
    1. ITunes
    2. Hardware sales


    Apples cash cow is the hardware sector. They can produce and sell so many devices (mobile phones and Laptops / Desktops / whatever) that the production costs will sink with every device and the profit will gain!
    ITunes is 'just' a good (real good) second way of earning money because bit binds the customers to an infrastructure.

    Google is going another way. They are not earning the most of the money with their hardware, they are earning with services and infrastructure. Every time you are using Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Google translate, whatever, .. Google is warning money. So it is in their interest to make all Google services available to as many people as possible. That's why Android is (nearly) free and iOS is not available as a runtime in BlackBerry.(yet)

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    01-02-15 08:04 PM
  2. bobshine's Avatar
    What do you mean 'official'? I doubt there ever will be a official iOS runtime of any sort

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    Official as in being authorised by Apple!

    For example, Android runtime is official and legal cause it's open source

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    01-02-15 09:35 PM
  3. thurask's Avatar
    Or just coder laziness and they left the files there lol.
    Perhaps. The .lproj and .plist files are probably just leftovers.

    https://developer.blackberry.com/nat...ios_intro.html is probably the extent of efforts to get iOS apps onto BB10.
    01-02-15 10:04 PM
  4. Chris S Mellor's Avatar
    Official as in being authorised by Apple!

    For example, Android runtime is official and legal cause it's open source

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    Where as iOS is closed source...

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    01-02-15 10:47 PM
  5. meltbox360's Avatar
    It could happen and Apple can't legally block it. It would not be a runtime though. It would be a set of libraries akin to ".dll" files on windows PCs which would enable the iOS apps to call whatever OK functions that are available on iOS. Issues may arise with apps compiled to use instructions that don't exist on BlackBerry phones though but that could probably just be solved by using sufficiently old versions of apps compiled for iOS6 or 7?

    I don't know but it's theoretically doable and legal. Problem is it would take a good chunk of resources to make work well.

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    01-03-15 02:09 AM
  6. itzJustMeh's Avatar
    Not going to happen, iOS is made for full screen devices, I think it would look bad on Qs and Passport and classic (that's besides all technical and legal issues)
    01-03-15 04:23 AM
  7. KemKev's Avatar
    Years ago, word on the street was that someone accomplished it. IIRC, Kev validated the claim.

    The poster disappeared shortly thereafter.
    Uh oh, you think Apple's "secret service" took him out?
    Tre Lawrence likes this.
    01-03-15 05:18 AM
  8. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    Not going to happen, iOS is made for full screen devices, I think it would look bad on Qs and Passport and classic (that's besides all technical and legal issues)
    True, it would be an issue.

    All apple devices have the same aspect ratio, where Android devices almost all have different, allowing for them naturally to work on BlackBerry devices since most of them fit those aspect ratios.

    Praise be unto our Lord Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.1.1154
    01-03-15 09:49 AM
  9. Traxxmy's Avatar
    Not going to lie, I'd be pumped to see a Symbian runtime!

    Praise be unto our Lord Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.1.1154
    With belle Ui. Currently need to use belle launcher to get the feel.

    Symbian is still and always my favourite Os. Nokia 808. FilePLAY Music Player
    01-03-15 09:56 AM
  10. Gaddy09's Avatar
    It doesn't need to be legal. If someone out there in crackberry community can get some emulator/simulator/runtime to play IOS apps on my Z30 I would load it up and use it...SNAP isn't exactly legal as I understand it...and we use that...let's see if anyone out there can get one working and post it on CB...

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    01-03-15 10:13 AM
  11. mikeo007's Avatar
    Years ago, word on the street was that someone accomplished it. IIRC, Kev validated the claim.

    The poster disappeared shortly thereafter.
    Yup, it was real. It was also very unfinished and very unlikey to ever become anything usable. IIRC it only handled OpenGL ES anyway so was only good for games, which are the easiest things to port to BB10 anyway.
    Tre Lawrence likes this.
    01-03-15 05:28 PM
  12. BEEBEEBEEBEE's Avatar
    How long before Apple & Android bake Blackberry emulators into their OS?

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    01-03-15 07:33 PM
  13. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    How long before Apple & Android bake Blackberry emulators into their OS?

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    Why? For what reason?
    01-03-15 07:35 PM
  14. Apollo_IV's Avatar
    How long before Apple & Android bake Blackberry emulators into their OS?

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    That's funny.
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    01-03-15 07:37 PM
  15. Ashraf Altayeb's Avatar
    I think we didn't need support for the OS, we need BlackBerry os 10 to open all type os Apps, that will be great, so u will have all the markets in 1 device.

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    01-03-15 09:05 PM
  16. Ment's Avatar
    Why? For what reason?
    To use the most current BBM
    Tre Lawrence likes this.
    01-04-15 01:03 AM
  17. ronfc's Avatar
    Hah! RIM (BB) may have difficulty buying /an/ Apple Computer!
    Are you sure?

    iOS Runtime on BlackBerry?-vlcsnap-2015-01-04-15h02m50s49.pngiOS Runtime on BlackBerry?-vlcsnap-2015-01-04-15h04m48s157.png

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    01-04-15 01:15 AM
  18. meltbox360's Avatar
    Are you sure?

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    Cave, cave, moderator videt
    Photoshop

    Lies all lies.

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    01-06-15 01:22 AM
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