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  1. SDM7171's Avatar
    Wow - some of you folks are ridiculous. I don't give a flying rat's heiny if anyone doesn't need or use Flash. I do. I use it for work and play. It's not a choice. I don;t care what the entire world wide web will look like in 10 years. Right now - right this second there are ten's of thousands of sites that I use - that use flash.
    That's olympic standard exaggeration. Even if you meant Web pages.




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    11-05-14 02:26 AM
  2. tushargkwd's Avatar
    I guess they'll not drop flash... but if they do I'm not worried...
    Its just that some legacy sites which aren't updated will cause issues...

    I respect the decision that BlackBerry takes --- seems too dramatic

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    11-05-14 06:59 AM
  3. ali2k4's Avatar
    I am on 10.3.1.1016 I have flash support still in the browser.
    11-05-14 04:33 PM
  4. Furell's Avatar
    I am on 10.3.1.1016 I have flash support still in the browser.
    wtf? Are you sure your on .1016?

    Ruling the air with my Z30, 10.3.1.1016, and Big Red! Simply the exception.
    11-05-14 05:01 PM
  5. HotFix's Avatar
    I am on 10.3.1.1016 I have flash support still in the browser.
    Pictures or it didn't happen. :-)

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    11-05-14 07:37 PM
  6. ppeters914's Avatar
    Pictures or it didn't happen. :-)

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    ROFLMAO!

    Posted via CB10 with my Z10 STL 100-3 / 10.3.1.1016
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    11-05-14 08:59 PM
  7. JRuppenthal's Avatar
    All of these sites people reference better get on the change train. Mobile Flash is dead and the industry and users are quickly moving on. If they don't adapt, they'll be left behind. It's a mobile world now. Flash will exist for desktops and laptops, but not for mobile devices which is where everything is moving. If they want to be relevant in a year or two, and, yes, that's how quickly markets are moving, they'll be dinosaurs and extinct. I work in the media business and its amazing how rapidly consumer habits are changing. Flash is dead.


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    11-05-14 09:02 PM
  8. huungryshark's Avatar
    @1imagine - Loved reading this. I could not have come up with a better practical example.

    I'm starting to think that BlackBerry is out to make itself leaner before it's ready to sell. After all, Sybase was sold, wasn't it? It's typical for companies to try to dump whatever contracts, perceptibly undesirable, they may have. Just some food for though
    That's what I am thinking long long time now.

    BlackBerry WANT lose customers , at least the regular ones.

    They are trying hard. It's a shame really.
    There are many signs pointing in exactly that direction, almost forcing people to look at anothe platforms/devices.And no one gets it and john Chen is the best and so on....lol

    Blackberry is not stupid, they know exaclty what their customers want.

    Damn that could be a nice company with very cool products. Not only smartphone devices.

    Z10 (red) OS10.2.2.1531 Q5 (red) OS10.3.0.1418
    11-05-14 09:24 PM
  9. ahmedhanif911's Avatar
    I can no longer watch BBC iplayer from the mobile site have to download a android app which is laggy.

    I can no longer watch videos on my favourite football teams website lfc.tv.

    I've also noticed on the odd few sites it says your device is not compatible, I did not have these issues before.

    Flash is still handy!

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    11-05-14 09:42 PM
  10. dalight13's Avatar
    Dolphin browser works great for me. Got it in Amazon app store!

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    11-05-14 09:49 PM
  11. yohannyphm's Avatar
    Primewire needs flash to stream pictures. My Z10 will be held back on 10.3.0 because it's my movie streaming device. Flash support and micro HDMI port are BlackBerry 10 iconic features,

    Posted from my flagship Z30 10.3.1.1016
    11-05-14 11:36 PM
  12. Traxxmy's Avatar
    Flash support and micro HDMI port are BlackBerry 10 iconic features,

    Posted from my flagship Z30 10.3.1.1016
    You must be frog living under the coconut shell.



    Symbian is still and always my favourite Os. Nokia 808. FilePLAY Music Player
    11-06-14 12:00 AM
  13. annon91221's Avatar
    This popular Indian music website does not have BlackBerry 10 app.. nor do they have an app on Amazon app store.. Android port works great but it's a pain to install it, for majority of people..
    Full website played best quality music out there.. better than the apps..

    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_064930.png

    Also.. did you guys know that even YouTube uses flash for certain things like subscribed streaming of HD sports like willow cricket..

    No matter what anyone says about non usefulness of flash.. for BlackBerry with a lacking app store it is a must have..

    I am trying to live without it.. but have my eyes open for alternative browsers..



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    11-06-14 08:56 AM
  14. tickerguy's Avatar
    I haven't found the lack of flash to be material to me. But...that's me.

    The places I watch video via the browser still work as they detect the HTML5 capability and work fine. While I'm sure some other people have a different view it won't matter to me at all.

    Flash is a dead letter for mobile, like it or not. It's not BlackBerry, it's Adobe that killed it in that environment.
    11-06-14 09:18 AM
  15. ppeters914's Avatar
    Another thought; I'm no developer, but perhaps the mobile version of Flash, which Adobe stopped development of (in 2011?), isn't compatible with 10.3.1.xxxx.

    Posted via CB10 with my Z10 STL 100-3 / 10.3.1.1016
    11-06-14 09:49 AM
  16. dejanh's Avatar
    Another thought; I'm no developer, but perhaps the mobile version of Flash, which Adobe stopped development of (in 2011?), isn't compatible with 10.3.1.xxxx.

    Posted via CB10 with my Z10 STL 100-3 / 10.3.1.1016
    10.3.1. is an incremental change from 10.3. No reason at all why it would not be compatible when it works just fine in 10.3. This is purely a cost savings measure. Logic goes as follows. We're enterprise now. Enterprises don't need Flash so let's kill the development of it. Remember, BlackBerry sourced Flash from Adobe and supported it independently. I would not be surprised if they cut the group that was responsible for it.

    At this point it's like they are giving a big middle finger to consumers saying "there really isn't a reason for you to go with our platform or devices so why don't you just run along to Android or iOS".

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    11-06-14 10:31 AM
  17. tickerguy's Avatar
    10.3.1. is an incremental change from 10.3. No reason at all why it would not be compatible when it works just fine in 10.3. This is purely a cost savings measure. Logic goes as follows. We're enterprise now. Enterprises don't need Flash so let's kill the development of it. Remember, BlackBerry sourced Flash from Adobe and supported it independently. I would not be surprised if they cut the group that was responsible for it.

    At this point it's like they are giving a big middle finger to consumers saying "there really isn't a reason for you to go with our platform or devices so why don't you just run along to Android or iOS".

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    Oh really?

    iOS doesn't support it native either, nor does Android.

    You can sideload it for Android, but it's not in the system by default any more.

    So exactly how is this BlackBerry "telling people to go to another platform" when they don't have it built in either?
    11-06-14 11:02 AM
  18. m3mb3rsh1p's Avatar
    10.3.1. is an incremental change from 10.3. No reason at all why it would not be compatible when it works just fine in 10.3. This is purely a cost savings measure. Logic goes as follows. We're enterprise now. Enterprises don't need Flash so let's kill the development of it. Remember, BlackBerry sourced Flash from Adobe and supported it independently. I would not be surprised if they cut the group that was responsible for it.

    At this point it's like they are giving a big middle finger to consumers saying "there really isn't a reason for you to go with our platform or devices so why don't you just run along to Android or iOS".

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    Such constant negative assessment of BlackBerry's actions is becoming uncomfortable. It's like being in the same room with someone waving a loaded gun claiming there's toxic gas outside where there's no Flash (or something else you want) and BlackBerry is forcing us to exit.

    Flash will always be in 10.3.0.* so you can always stay in this room and use Flash. The Flash-free air outside is still breathable and BlackBerry will still be a great platform to use out there.

    Focusing on problems and constantly looking for the negative angle to every BlackBerry decision is not helpful. I understand you had a negative experience with BlackBerry recently but at least try to let go some of your anger and see some positive elements to their direction.

    BlackBerry does have reason, logic, business sense, love for their customers and it?s unfair to claim otherwise just because you disagree with their way of doing things.


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    11-06-14 01:00 PM
  19. tickerguy's Avatar
    BTW the 10.3.1 browser has a number of material improvements over 10.3.0 and earlier, including a somewhat-gnarly auto-font-resizing bug that was squashed.

    That, plus the performance and HTML5 compatibility improvements, make a monstrous and very real difference to me in my use of the device on the websites I visit regularly.

    All-in 10.3.1 is a major step forward, not backward.
    11-06-14 01:26 PM
  20. ali2k4's Avatar
    Pictures or it didn't happen. :-)

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    I will do that as soon as possible I was using MLB it worked fine the videos were playing. I will try to find a better example of flash and post it soon =) and let you know if it lags or anything
    11-06-14 01:54 PM
  21. ali2k4's Avatar
    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_140352.png
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    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_135746.png
    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_135743.png
    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_135653.png

    Here you go and no lag on any

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    11-06-14 02:09 PM
  22. ali2k4's Avatar
    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_142845.png

    I did CBC as well cause it works like bbc iplayer


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    11-06-14 02:30 PM
  23. geodorn's Avatar
    What has a site like Betty Boop: Bamboo Isle - Watch & Download | BnWMovies.com exactly to do with Adobe Flash?
    11-06-14 03:33 PM
  24. Asvertus's Avatar
    @ali2k4

    Try this site.
    moviepilot.de

    It use flash, when you can open any video, then you have really flash.

    It seems that all other sides you used have no flash.



    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_213926.png

    Posted via CB10 on Z30 (10.3.1.1016)
    11-06-14 03:44 PM
  25. thurask's Avatar
    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.1016

    Flash Usefulness-img_20141106_154847.png

    I want to see Flash go, but it won't be soon.

    and no lag on any

    Posted via CB10
    Well then it doesn't have Flash...

    Posted via CB10
    11-06-14 03:49 PM
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