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  1. tickerguy's Avatar
    If you load the Upgrade files via Sachesi and have 10.2.1 hybrid customizations on the phone (e.g. camera, weather, etc) they will not be overwritten. I was surprised by this, but I didn't have to reload them.
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    11-09-13 10:39 AM
  2. eyecrispy's Avatar
    If you load the Upgrade files via Sachesi and have 10.2.1 hybrid customizations on the phone (e.g. camera, weather, etc) they will not be overwritten. I was surprised by this, but I didn't have to reload them.
    You did a full update using Sachesi? I am in the process of upgrading my Q10 as I type this so I can verify. I have the unlocked runtime, sysmon and some other on the Q10 right now and am curious to see if it'll stick.
    11-09-13 10:50 AM
  3. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    You did a full update using Sachesi? I am in the process of upgrading my Q10 as I type this so I can verify. I have the unlocked runtime, sysmon and some other on the Q10 right now and am curious to see if it'll stick.
    If you just load the core os and radio it will NOT overwrite your existing runtime, sysmon etc... Tickerguy reports that you can update all via sachesi and it will not overwrite. I have not tried that. But, for me, I only had to grab about 350MB for the os/radio to sideload and be assured the others were not overwritten. I am still on the runtime from 10.2.1.641

    EDIT: I already knew the other app files I was running were higher such as dxtg, camera, weather, etc.... so I didn't bother grabbing those files. I just wanted to update the core/radio
    11-09-13 11:07 AM
  4. pvphooman's Avatar
    For those of you with a complete hybrid running a core 10.2.0.xxxx with a host of 10.2.1.xxxx bars - you can use sachesi to grab just the core os 1803 (approx 300MB) and 1804 radio without having to re-load your other updated bars. Running real nice on my Z10 stl-100-3.
    I did load the os first, reboot and then the radio.
    So to be clear, I am still running 1791 coreOS and have already installed the 1804 radio via autoloader..
    To upgrade the coreOS to 1803, what I need to do is get the http://cdn.fs.sl.blackberry.com/fs/q...-v7+signed.bar link I found using sachesi, then what? make an autoloader or sideload via sachesi?

    Also can someone please explain or direct me where I can find the difference between upgrade and debrick ?
    Last edited by pvphooman; 11-09-13 at 11:36 AM.
    11-09-13 11:09 AM
  5. eyecrispy's Avatar
    If you just load the core os and radio it will NOT overwrite your existing runtime, sysmon etc... Tickerguy reports that you can update all via sachesi and it will not overwrite. I have not tried that. But, for me, I only had to grab about 350MB for the os/radio to sideload and be assured the others were not overwritten. I am still on the runtime from 10.2.1.641

    EDIT: I already knew the other app files I was running were higher such as dxtg, camera, weather, etc.... so I didn't bother grabbing those files. I just wanted to update the core/radio
    Yea, I did the whole sha-bang so it overwrote. I am now reloading the stuff from 10.2.1.xxx on there.

    Side note - has anyone successfully gotten Waze up and running on 1803 on either Q10 or Z10? It crashes for me on both the stock runtime and the unlocked. I miss my Waze.
    11-09-13 11:12 AM
  6. buffpatel's Avatar
    Yea, I did the whole sha-bang so it overwrote. I am now reloading the stuff from 10.2.1.xxx on there.

    Side note - has anyone successfully gotten Waze up and running on 1803 on either Q10 or Z10? It crashes for me on both the stock runtime and the unlocked. I miss my Waze.
    I have waze running pretty well on my Q10. I had to sideload using debug token method, but it does work.
    11-09-13 11:35 AM
  7. Cranky's Avatar
    Just noticed that when typing text, holding down a letter will not capitalize it, unless you hit the shift key first.


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    11-09-13 11:37 AM
  8. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    So to be clear, I am still running 1791 coreOS and have already installed the 1804 radio via autoloader..
    To upgrade the coreOS to 1803, what I need to do is get the http://cdn.fs.sl.blackberry.com/fs/q...-v7+signed.bar link I found using sachesi, then what? make an autoloader or sideload via sachesi?

    Also can someone please explain or direct me where I can find the difference between upgrade and debrick ?
    Yes - just grab the core os and sideload via sachesi and you will be fine. And grab the upgrade, not debrick. If you grab debrick you will have to unzip and create autoloader from signed file.

    What I mentioned is the upgrade bar.

    Posted via CB10
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    11-09-13 11:39 AM
  9. eyecrispy's Avatar
    I have waze running pretty well on my Q10. I had to sideload using debug token method, but it does work.
    I read that folks have gotten it running without debug token with unlocked runtime. Not working for me. Have tried both the one from App World and side loaded variety.

    STL100-3 10.2.0.1803, SQN100-1 10.2.0.1793
    11-09-13 11:45 AM
  10. moyah8's Avatar
    Just noticed that when typing text, holding down a letter will not capitalize it, unless you hit the shift key first.


    Posted via CB10
    I'm on the Q10 and I do *NOT have that problem.

    *i was not shouting there... was. just verifying that I don't have that probleM.

    Posted via CB10 from my Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1803
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    11-09-13 11:46 AM
  11. pvphooman's Avatar
    Yes - just grab the core os and sideload via sachesi and you will be fine. And grab the upgrade, not debrick. If you grab debrick you will have to unzip and create autoloader from signed file.

    What I mentioned is the upgrade bar.

    Posted via CB10
    Thanks! I'm about to sideload it now. Last question. So if I already installed the updated 1803 bars, radio, and now coreOS over 1791, can I say that I have no more 1791 dna on my phone? Ive read that the OS version will still say 1791 on the about tab. can I change that? edit: about tab says 1803
    Last edited by pvphooman; 11-09-13 at 12:03 PM.
    11-09-13 11:47 AM
  12. howards's Avatar
    That would also make battery life much better

    STL100-2 OS10.2.1.575. Wipe, no restore.
    Good point!

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 12:00 PM
  13. Cranky's Avatar
    I'm on the Q10 and I do *NOT have that problem.

    *i was not shouting there... was. just verifying that I don't have that probleM.

    Posted via CB10 from my Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1803
    Just to be sure, I wasn't talking about the first letter of a sentence or after a period. But in the middle of a sentence.

    Can you test that?

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 12:01 PM
  14. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    Thanks! I'm about to sideload it now. Last question. So if I already installed the updated 1803 bars, radio, and now coreOS over 1791, can I say that I have no more 1791 dna on my phone? Ive read that the OS version will still say 1791 on the about tab. can I change that?
    My phone doesn't show software release info, but it does show os 10.2.0.1803

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 12:04 PM
  15. pvphooman's Avatar
    My phone doesn't show software release info, but it does show os 10.2.0.1803

    Posted via CB10
    Thanks again. Bye bye 1791!

    STL3 1803 hybrid w/10.2.1 bars
    11-09-13 12:05 PM
  16. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    My phone doesn't show software release info, but it does show os 10.2.0.1803

    Posted via CB10
    I would post a screen shot but I am on the road and would need to redact some personal info.

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 12:05 PM
  17. KenV54's Avatar
    For a Z10 100-3 is there any obvious improvement of 1803OS/1804R over 1791OS/1792R? Some say the radio (1804) has much clearer sound that the 1792 radio for the Z-30, but is there a difference on the Z-10?
    11-09-13 12:17 PM
  18. LP_Rigg's Avatar
    For a Z10 100-3 is there any obvious improvement of 1803OS/1804R over 1791OS/1792R? Some say the radio (1804) has much clearer sound that the 1792 radio for the Z-30, but is there a difference on the Z-10?
    Hard to say, my wife says I can't hear anyway LOL

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 12:23 PM
  19. pvphooman's Avatar
    I would post a screen shot but I am on the road and would need to redact some personal info.

    Posted via CB10
    No worries. I side loaded both the coreOS and radio and my phone says 1803/1804. No signs of 1791.

    STL3 1803 hybrid w/10.2.1 bars
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    11-09-13 12:48 PM
  20. kfroese's Avatar
    I read that folks have gotten it running without debug token with unlocked runtime. Not working for me. Have tried both the one from App World and side loaded variety.

    STL100-3 10.2.0.1803, SQN100-1 10.2.0.1793
    I got Waze running using runtime from .725 leak.

    Q10SQN100-1/10.2.0.1803
    11-09-13 02:01 PM
  21. eyecrispy's Avatar
    I got Waze running using runtime from .725 leak.

    Q10SQN100-1/10.2.0.1803
    That's the runtime I have. Which version of Waze did you use? Can you share?

    STL100-3 10.2.0.1803, SQN100-1 10.2.0.1803
    11-09-13 02:09 PM
  22. 7thedon7's Avatar
    My Facebook app is now stuck on the renew your session thing. Besides that, everything is OK.


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    11-09-13 02:48 PM
  23. eywong's Avatar
    lookup with the same parameters for the STL2, download those files as they are for 10.2.0.1803 - i see that you have the STL3, so do i. the STL2 files did the trick.
    The separate software builds for each device provide support for the specific wireless frequencies used in their respective countries. The STL100-2 and STL100-3 devices have in common only Quad Band EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz). I assume that after loading the STL2 software in the STL3, only EDGE would be supported and that support for LTE and other features would be absent or not work at all.
    11-09-13 03:08 PM
  24. BlackBerry Owner 1's Avatar
    I downloaded the autoloader onto my computer via the Mega link provided in the OP. Is it possible to install it onto my phone nondestructively using sachesi? I need to keep my data on my phone and for some reason link isn't letting me backup and sachesi gives me the option to "load all data" but does nothing when I click on it. But my phone is connected to my computer through usb, I think I just have a lot of data on my phone and it won't let me back it all up.

    Posted via CB10
    11-09-13 03:18 PM
  25. ceckland's Avatar
    Can someone please upload the STL 100-3 variant to Google drive or Dropbox and inbox me and/or post a link? It would be greatly appreciated. I'm at college and using the university's network, and it has issues with mega, bitcasa, etc. (I don't know why, but most large file sharing sites freeze up almost instantly; I haven't been able to get past 25%). Thank you very much!

    Sachesi isn't working either. I haven't been able to load a leak since the last time I was at home. I'm still sitting on 1767, and I'd really like to get the official version.
    Last edited by ceckland; 11-09-13 at 06:38 PM.
    11-09-13 04:18 PM
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