1. wout000's Avatar
    I'm not exactly sure if this has been posted before in a one-off thread, wasn't able to find it so here goes.

    I like leaks and I like Sachesi to tinker with the BB10 OS as I please. I've been reviewing what bar files can be deleted from a leak before installing and of course after installing with Sachesi. Most bars are pretty straightforward and can be identified by their name but for some I need your help.

    Info used from this thread: http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...nected-917998/
    How-to remove these files: http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...s-os10-828351/

    Thanks to everyone participating in this thread.

    DISCLAIMER: this post is informational only. If you brick your phone, it's on you.
    WARNING...IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS! YOU WILL MESS UP YOUR PHONE.


    CAN BE DELETED

    com.linkedin-10.1.6.2 Linkedin app,
    com.assetscience.BBVE: BB Virtual Expert,
    com.tcs.maps-10.2.1.779 Maps app,
    com.twitter-10.2.2.14 Twitter app,
    com.evernote: Evernote app,
    com.foursquare.blackberry: Foursquare app,
    com.rim.bb.app.adobeReader: Adobe Reader app,
    com.rim.bb.app.cardholder: Cardholder, like Passbook for iOS,
    com.rim.bb.app.facebook: Facebook app,
    sys.appworld-5.0.0.137 Appworld app,
    sys.authentication.clixel_plugin-10.2.1.0 Picture Password app,
    sys.barcode-10.2.1.0 No idea what this is
    sys.bbm-10.3.12.67 BBM app,
    sys.calculator-10.2.1.29 Calculator app,
    sys.cfs.box-1.2.1.86 Box app,
    sys.cfs.dropbox-1.2.1.76 Dropbox app,
    sys.compass-10.2.1.20 Compass app,
    sys.data.asr-10.2.1.37 Speech recognition,
    sys.AudioRecorder: Audio recorder,
    sys.bug_reporter_3: Bug reporter,
    sys.bugreport: Bugreport,
    sys.cfs.webdav.todtm: BlackBerry Link Remote File Access,
    sys.data.nuance_vocalizer: Voice Control.
    sys.dxtg.*app*: Docs to Go.
    sys.games: Games app,
    sys.help-10.2.1.35 Help,
    sys.howto-10.2.1.73 Tutorials app,
    sys.installhandlerui-10.2.1.0 APK Installer,
    sys.invokeTargetSelection-10.2.1.1 Share menu,
    sys.miracastviewer-1.0.1.21 Miracastviewer,
    sys.mmagic-10.2.1.137 Story Maker,
    sys.NFCViewer-10.2.1.16NFC viewer,
    sys.rcse-10.2.1.336 No idea what this is for,
    sys.retaildemo-1.0.0.75 Demo file,
    sys.smartcard-10.2.1.28 Smartcards, can de deleted
    sys.smarttags-10.2.1.42 Smart tags app,
    sys.socialconnect.facebook-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
    sys.socialconnect.linkedin-10.1.1.48 Social connect,
    sys.socialconnect.twitter-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
    sys.socialconnect.youtube-10.1.2.48 Social connect,
    sys.socialconnect.*etc*: Allows sharing to apps via share menu,
    sys.wifisendcard-10.2.1.15 Wifi Direct GUI,
    sys.weather: Weather app,

    Make sure you keep at least 1 language file
    sys.data.imf.af_ZA-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ar_SA-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ca_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.cs_CZ-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.da_DK-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.de_DE-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.el_GR-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.en_GB-10.2.1.4 Language file
    sys.data.imf.en_US-10.2.1.4 Language file
    sys.data.imf.es_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.eu_ES-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.fi_FI-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.fr_FR-10.2.1.3 Language file
    sys.data.imf.gl_ES-10.2.1.1 Language file
    sys.data.imf.he_IL-10.2.1.1 Language file
    sys.data.imf.hg_IN-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.hi_IN-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.hr_HR-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.hu_HU-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.id_ID-10.2.1.3 Language file
    sys.data.imf.it_IT-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ja_JP-10.2.1.3 Language file
    sys.data.imf.jv_ID-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.kk_KZ-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ko_KR-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ms_MY-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.nb_NO-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.nl_NL-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.pl_PL-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.pt_BR-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.pt_PT-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ro_RO-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.ru_RU-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.sk_SK-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.sl_SI-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.sr_RS-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.su_ID-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.sv_SE-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.th_TH-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.tl_PH-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.tr_TR-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.vi_VN-10.2.1.2 Language file
    sys.data.imf.zh-10.2.1.4 Language file


    DO NOT DELETE

    Z3_10.2.01.2947_STJ100-1 OS file,
    sys.android.shell-10.2.1.144 Android Runtime OS hook, (you can delete it but it's not recommended)
    sys.android-10.2.1.144 Android Runtime, (you can delete it but it's not recommended)
    sys.browser-10.2.1.97 Browser app,
    sys.chat-10.2.1.312 SMS app,
    sys.chatblend-10.2.1.313 Part of the SMS/BBM app,
    sys.camera: Camera app,
    sys.firstlaunch: OOBE wizard,
    sys.data.pbcd-10.2.1.2 BlackBerry Link + drivers,
    sys.data.zoneinfo-10.2.1.5 Time Zone data,
    sys.filepicker-10.11.1.51 File manager as invoked from within an app,
    sys.notification_card-10.2.1.10 HUB notifications,
    sys.perimeterbrowser-10.11.1.51 File manager, standalone,
    sys.phone_settings-10.2.1.384 Phone settings,
    sys.phone-10.2.1.426 Phone,
    sys.pictures-10.200.1.60 Pictureviewer framework,
    sys.pim.attachments.card-10.2.1.339 PIM service,
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.eventcreate-10.102.2.365 PIM service,
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.ics-10.102.2.365 ICS support, PIM service,
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.nav-10.102.2.365 Calendar event viewer, PIM service,
    sys.pim.calendar-10.102.2.365 Calendar app, PIM service,
    sys.pim.contacts-10.5.201.365 Contacts app, PIM service,
    sys.pim.email.card-10.2.1.348 Individual emails, PIM service,
    sys.pim.email.composer.card-10.2.2.365 Compose emails, PIM service,
    sys.pim.messages-10.2.1.339 HUB, PIM service,
    sys.pim.provider.traveler-10.2.1.64 IBM Traveler support, PIM service,
    sys.pim.remember-10.2.1.337 Remember app, PIM service,
    sys.settings.accounts-1.0.1.68 System settings Accounts,
    sys.settings-10.2.1.219 System settings,
    sys.search: Search,
    sys.simtoolkit_ui_app: SIM card management,
    sys.data.imf.root-10.2.1.8 Keyboard,


    UNKNOWN IF SAFE TO DELETE OR NOT

    sys.btviewer-10.2.1.18 Part of bluetooth
    sys.clock-11.20.1.59 Clock app
    sys.data.bluetooth-10.2.1.12 Bluetooth
    sys.data.carrier_data-10.2.1.313 Carrier specific data settings
    sys.mediastreamer: Media player, as invoked from within the Browser
    sys.data.quip.authtokens-10.2.1.1424 Verification tokens for various carriers
    sys.data.wallpaper-10.2.1.3 Wallpaper settings,
    sys.deviceswitch-10.2.1.13 Deviceswitch settings,
    sys.escreens-10.2.1.1074 Engineering screens,
    sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 Intended to be a desktop dashboard for your phone
    sys.hotspotBrowser-10.2.1.97 Internet Hotspot Login
    sys.mediaplayer-10.2.1.47 Mediaplayer,
    sys.paymentsystem-10.2.4.30 No idea what this is for
    sys.pictureeditor-10.200.1.25 Picture editor,
    sys.picturesviewer-10.200.1.60 Picture previewer,
    sys.places.cards-10.2.1.16 Places, invoked when dealing with locations,
    sys.setupbuffet-10.2.1.9 Setup wizard,
    sys.smartcalling-10.2.1.332 Smart calling
    sys.sysmon-10.2.1.4 System monitor,
    sys.video_editor-10.2.1.20 Video editor,
    sys.videoplayer-10.200.1.74 Video player,
    sys.videochat: Videochat
    sys.voicemailcompose-10.2.1.47 No idea what this is for
    sys.voicemailsetup-10.2.1.47 Voicemail setup,
    sys.zbbiocm: I don't know what this does.
    sys.bb_screen_reader-1.0.1.18 Screen reader app, part of the accessibility options
    sys.airtunes-10.200.1.58 Music app
    sys.uri.bbhub: BB Hub icon.
    sys.uri.textmessaging: Text messaging icon.
    sys.uri.youtube: Youtube icon.


    If you know what the files with No idea what this is for are for, please let me know so I can update the post.
    If you spot flaws, let me know and I'll correct it.
    Last edited by wout000; 04-01-14 at 04:47 AM.
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    03-31-14 04:59 AM
  2. z10-abo's Avatar
    sys.airtunes is the media player

    Posted via CB10
    03-31-14 05:20 AM
  3. wout000's Avatar
    sys.airtunes is the media player

    Posted via CB10
    So what is sys.mediaplayer?

    Posted via CB10
    Last edited by wout000; 04-01-14 at 04:44 AM.
    03-31-14 05:07 PM
  4. QWKSNKE's Avatar
    Thanks for the work in researching but why would anyone do this on a device with 16gb memory?
    I mean, I have over 60 apps on my phone and still have 8 gb of device memory left.

    STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock
    03-31-14 06:47 PM
  5. eldricho's Avatar
    Awesome work, man! Subbed
    Here's a thread where Thurask explains all the functions of each bar file, maybe you could use it and update the ones you didn't know
    http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=917998

    Posted via CB10
    03-31-14 06:59 PM
  6. BBThemes's Avatar
    com.tcs.maps-10.2.1.779 No idea what this is for
    Maps App

    sys.airtunes-10.200.1.58 No idea what this is for
    Music App

    sys.authentication.clixel_plugin-10.2.1.0 No idea what this is
    The Picture Password app.

    sys.btviewer-10.2.1.18 No idea what this is
    Part of BlueTooth App

    sys.chat-10.2.1.312 No idea what this is for
    sys.chatblend-10.2.1.313 No idea what this is for
    Chat is SMS, Chat Blend seems to be part of sms and also BBM, also is related to sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 which seems to be part of the sharing cards and invocation cards.
    03-31-14 07:13 PM
  7. wout000's Avatar
    Thanks for the work in researching but why would anyone do this on a device with 16gb memory?
    I mean, I have over 60 apps on my phone and still have 8 gb of device memory left.
    STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock
    Removing useless parts or parts you don't use will have a positive impact on your device memory and speed. We're essentially building a hybrid like in the BB OS7 days

    Awesome work, man! Subbed
    Here's a thread where Thurask explains all the functions of each bar file, maybe you could use it and update the ones you didn't know
    breakdown of system files and what each app they are connected to??? - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com

    Posted via CB10
    Oh thanks. I missed that. It will come in handy indeed

    Maps App

    Music App

    The Picture Password app.

    Part of BlueTooth App

    Chat is SMS, Chat Blend seems to be part of sms and also BBM, also is related to sys.fuse-0.9.0.72 which seems to be part of the sharing cards and invocation cards.
    Thanks for the info
    Last edited by wout000; 04-01-14 at 03:50 AM.
    04-01-14 02:38 AM
  8. LostOnThePianoRoll's Avatar
    I remember back in OS6 days i could decrease the os size by half just by removing all the extra languages and the tutorials videos..

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10STL100-10.2.1.2102
    04-01-14 10:07 AM
  9. QWKSNKE's Avatar
    Removing useless parts or parts you don't use will have a positive impact on your device memory and speed. We're essentially building a hybrid like in the BB OS7 days

    Yeah i understood what you were doing and it definitely had its place in the BBOS days when devices were low on memory. I doubt there would be any benefit to doing this on a 16 gb device like that is in all BB10 devices to date.

    I am going to follow this thread to see if anyone notices any performance change so I will know whether I should consider doing this.
    04-01-14 12:55 PM
  10. clie610's Avatar
    Yeah i understood what you were doing and it definitely had its place in the BBOS days when devices were low on memory. I doubt there would be any benefit to doing this on a 16 gb device like that is in all BB10 devices to date.

    I am going to follow this thread to see if anyone notices any performance change so I will know whether I should consider doing this.
    Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900
    04-01-14 01:25 PM
  11. meltbox360's Avatar
    This is interesting. Wonder if you would see freed up ram just by deleting random unused stuff. I'll be watching this thread, very interesting.

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    04-01-14 01:25 PM
  12. clie610's Avatar
    Another thing that would help more is dependency tree for these files, then...it will make it more interesting because it will give more safety when we take out files that we think not needed for our purpose.
    LostOnThePianoRoll likes this.
    04-01-14 01:36 PM
  13. QWKSNKE's Avatar
    Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900
    RAM is only used by active applications or processes.

    STL-4. 10.2.1.2947 w/ 1259 clock
    04-01-14 01:58 PM
  14. anon1727506's Avatar
    Anyone up for creating a "shrink-my-os" for BB10? It was a life saver on the STORM, but I wouldn't mind getting rid on the clutter in BB10.
    04-01-14 02:06 PM
  15. CarbonKevin's Avatar
    Any idea if the various nuance_vocon files can be ditched? I suspect the individual nuance files are for voice recognition - there's probably 200+ MB tied up here.
    04-01-14 06:52 PM
  16. wout000's Avatar
    Am not a techy person, and correct me if I'm wrong, but some part of those files are populating in the RAM instead of internal storage isn't it? So if we can free up more space in the RAM it will increase performance of our device. Though we have 2GB RAM for our current OS10 compared to max of 768MB RAM in Dakota BB9900
    Exactly right. This isn't about the internal storage, it's about freeing up RAM and a snappier OS.

    Another thing that would help more is dependency tree for these files, then...it will make it more interesting because it will give more safety when we take out files that we think not needed for our purpose.
    I agree, care to do some work?

    Anyone up for creating a "shrink-my-os" for BB10? It was a life saver on the STORM, but I wouldn't mind getting rid on the clutter in BB10.
    Try-as-you-go.

    I'd like to find someone with a spare Z10 he/she doesn't use so we can test what can be safely deleted and what effects it brings.

    Any idea if the various nuance_vocon files can be ditched? I suspect the individual nuance files are for voice recognition - there's probably 200+ MB tied up here.
    If you're not using Voice recognition, there shouldn't be a problem deleting them.
    04-02-14 03:44 AM
  17. SCrid2000's Avatar
    Some updates for you:
    Wallpapers it's definitely fine to delete.
    Payment systems is for paying for things I've never tried deleting it.
    Any URI is ok to delete, including youtube.
    If you delete setup, your device won't connect to a computer.
    I believe sys.barcode is the BB World QR code reader.
    04-03-14 11:58 PM
  18. eybee1970's Avatar
    sys.zbbiocm: I don't know what this does.
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8818030
    http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...ml#post8818043

    In general: to better find out what each app is for, just open the app with WinRAR or similar, go inside the 'native' folder, open 'bar-descriptor.xml' and you get a quite good description You can also open the 'xxxicon.png' within this 'native' folder and you get the picture of the app...might also give you a good understanding of what it is exaclty
    eldricho likes this.
    04-04-14 02:16 AM
  19. PJD642's Avatar
    Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

    Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.
    04-04-14 08:07 AM
  20. eybee1970's Avatar
    Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

    Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.
    have a look here http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...s-os10-828351/
    04-04-14 08:19 AM
  21. wout000's Avatar
    In general: to better find out what each app is for, just open the app with WinRAR or similar, go inside the 'native' folder, open 'bar-descriptor.xml' and you get a quite good description You can also open the 'xxxicon.png' within this 'native' folder and you get the picture of the app...might also give you a good understanding of what it is exaclty
    Good tip.

    Well, I tried this using the latest version of Sachesi (1.1.5) on my Q10 running 10.2.1.2947, and the "permanent" files wont delete - I checked the boxes for games & mmagic, clicked the trash can icon, and they disappeared, but a click on the "refresh" button shows 'em still installed. Chrome browser method won't work either because of the "permanent" category.

    Am I missing something obvious here, or is it just because they've been reclassified since .12xx? The "copy an older file onto the device" method hasn't worked for a while either. I'd really like to get rid of games & some other shyt I never use.
    Some files can't be removed on an installed OS. In order to remove them you'd need to wipe the device and delete the BAR files from the new install. Basically never install them in the first place.
    04-04-14 12:10 PM
  22. mapsonburt's Avatar
    Q


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    04-05-14 02:55 PM

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