1. Ashraf Altayeb's Avatar
    How we can make all android apps headless like native apps so it can run in background.

    Can blackberry do this.

    Posted via CB10
    05-18-14 12:27 AM
  2. conite's Avatar
    There is nothing you can do except leave it running in an active frame.

    I can't imagine BlackBerry will ever allow open access to all android apps to run headless. A bit of a security problem don't you think?

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.0.296/442bars
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    05-18-14 12:36 AM
  3. Samikk1's Avatar
    Nooooooooo headless. You don't understand what problems you will get

    Z30STA100-2/10.2.1.2141
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    05-18-14 12:41 AM
  4. bmoney1229's Avatar
    Furthermore, now that so many apps are gaining headless approval, BlackBerry needs to come up with an easier way to see/close such apps. It currently takes 1 swipe + 2 clicks to see what's using phone resources, then scroll, click, click to close. I think there should be a quick setting to show apps currently running, and an icon/live tile to be placed according to user preference

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    05-18-14 12:50 AM
  5. HotFix's Avatar
    Nooooooooo headless. You don't understand what problems you will get

    Z30STA100-2/10.2.1.2141
    Like having your avatar rotate 90 degrees to the left?
    ;-)

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    05-18-14 05:43 PM
  6. Easy-G's Avatar
    How we can make all android apps headless like native apps so it can run in background.

    Can blackberry do this.

    Posted via CB10
    Endomondo runs headless. Need to "Back" out to the home screen and close it out. A Hub notification let's you know it's running in the background.

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    05-18-14 07:48 PM
  7. trsbbs's Avatar
    Droid apps have been able to run headless for sometime now, if coded to do so.

    Using a BlackBerry Z10! The "UnDroid"!
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    05-18-14 08:12 PM
  8. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Droid apps have been able to run headless for sometime now, if coded to do so.

    Using a BlackBerry Z10! The "UnDroid"!
    Running 10.3.0.296 hybrid on my Z30, I've experienced "kind of" headless behavior with a specific navigation (the kind you use to avoid police radars, called iCoyote). While the app was closed, I got vocal notifications about GPS signal being lost. Looking in app manager, I noticed the app was still using some processor and memory.
    Not sure if it's a "ghost" (app didn't close correctly) or intended, but there was no active frame running.

    I'll try to diagnose it further sometimes ...
    05-20-14 11:47 AM
  9. anon1727506's Avatar
    Running 10.3.0.296 hybrid on my Z30, I've experienced "kind of" headless behavior with a specific navigation (the kind you use to avoid police radars, called iCoyote). While the app was closed, I got vocal notifications about GPS signal being lost. Looking in app manager, I noticed the app was still using some processor and memory.
    Not sure if it's a "ghost" (app didn't close correctly) or intended, but there was no active frame running.

    I'll try to diagnose it further sometimes ...
    I found my DirecTV app running, even though it doesn't work on 10.3.0.296. Not sure why it would need to be headless, maybe it just crashed but kept running. either way as it won't open I just deleted it. And I've gotten in the practice of checking CPU in Device Monitor a little more often.
    05-20-14 11:52 AM
  10. ralphlauren27's Avatar
    Like having your avatar rotate 90 degrees to the left?
    ;-)

    Posted via CB10 via Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.2947
    nonono, the avatar would completely disappear, hence the name HEADLESS
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    05-20-14 02:22 PM
  11. ralphlauren27's Avatar
    I think there is some confusion about the "headless" run of some of android apps.
    Some of them just persistently runs even if active frame is closed. I find that the Amazon AppStore is an abuser in my case : even is it's closed via Device manager, it will pops up back in few seconds. I think it's kind of issue with the Runtime......early build, so do not really complain...
    05-20-14 02:29 PM
  12. Vcek's Avatar
    I think for the security of the device and power saving features, BlackBerry should put an option to turn off the android runtime.

    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 02:47 PM
  13. MrGlenn's Avatar
    Many Android apps that use Push services already work on BB10 even when closed. And many others periodically run in the background.

    For example Bitdefender has always worked on my Q10, starting at boot-up and running in the background.
    Using a task manager app you can actually see which of your apps are still running.

    On the 10.3 leaks it has gotten even better (or worse), with almost every Android app headless, and advanced notifications.

    BlackBerry 10 signed.
    05-20-14 02:56 PM
  14. LostOnThePianoRoll's Avatar
    Some apps already do it seems.. that's my university app it has been running for 3 days and the active frame is closed.. it's running a "notification service"..
    And occasionally I see different apps there open and close by themselves...
    Android Apps going headleass-img_20140520_225316.png

    Posted via CB10 from my Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.442
    05-20-14 02:57 PM
  15. RADEoN1337's Avatar
    Yep, android applications have been able to run as background processes since he inception of BlackBerry 10, iirc

    Posted via CB10
    05-20-14 03:20 PM
  16. rai187's Avatar
    The only Android app that runs headless for me is Hootsuite. I will get notifications in my hub as a bell of course even when it is closed (which 99.999999% it is).

    Why cannot the Android Instagram do this

    Posted via CB10 on the Z10.
    05-20-14 03:53 PM
  17. HotFix's Avatar
    Yep, android applications have been able to run as background processes since he inception of BlackBerry 10, iirc

    Posted via CB10
    To the best of my knowledge they have as long as I have been using BlackBerry 10 (10.1). Best example I can think of is Skype.

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    05-20-14 05:33 PM
  18. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Running 10.3.0.296 hybrid on my Z30, I've experienced "kind of" headless behavior with a specific navigation (the kind you use to avoid police radars, called iCoyote). While the app was closed, I got vocal notifications about GPS signal being lost. Looking in app manager, I noticed the app was still using some processor and memory.
    Not sure if it's a "ghost" (app didn't close correctly) or intended, but there was no active frame running.

    I'll try to diagnose it further sometimes ...
    To the best of my knowledge they have as long as I have been using BlackBerry 10 (10.1). Best example I can think of is Skype.

    Posted via CB10 via Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.2947
    Just a follow-up & confirmation.
    The Android app does have a "use background notifications" on/off setting and it does work perfectly.
    05-27-14 04:25 AM
  19. Gearheadaddy's Avatar
    Just a follow-up & confirmation.
    The Android app does have a "use background notifications" on/off setting and it does work perfectly.
    How do you get to this "Android App" on/off setting?...I don't see it in settings > notifications...?

    Trusted Member Genius on Verizon 10.3.0.296/442
    05-27-14 05:12 AM
  20. Samikk1's Avatar
    Like having your avatar rotate 90 degrees to the left?
    ;-)

    Posted via CB10 via Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.2947
    Was uploading through this app. That's what happened) )))


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    05-27-14 05:22 AM
  21. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    How do you get to this "Android App" on/off setting?...I don't see it in settings > notifications...?

    Trusted Member Genius on Verizon 10.3.0.296/442
    In the app settings (background alert), not in BB10 settings.
    Android Apps going headleass-img_20140527_134951.png
    05-27-14 06:48 AM
  22. MrGlenn's Avatar
    If an app has that Background alert function, you can also enable/disable it using App Ops as explained in a few different threads (10.3+). It will show there as one of the Permissions, at least it does for me.

    BlackBerry 10 signed.
    05-27-14 07:03 AM
  23. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    If an app has that Background alert function, you can also enable/disable it using App Ops as explained in a few different threads (10.3+). It will show there as one of the Permissions, at least it does for me.

    BlackBerry 10 signed.
    Doesn't seem an option for me ... but may be app specific or I'm in the wrong settings section (sry no time to 2xcheck) ?
    Android Apps going headleass-img_20140527_141547.png
    05-27-14 07:26 AM
  24. MrGlenn's Avatar
    App Ops is an Android 4.3 option (10.3 only), not the BB10 Permissions menu.
    You need to look within the Android Runtime settings, but you can use an app as a shortcut to it. Omnitech did a good thread on it I believe, App Ops gives you the ability to turn Android Permissions On/Off.
    It looks like this:
    Android Apps going headleass-img_20140527_154707.png
    Here is the thread. (Can not find the proper format to open url within the CB10 app.)

    BlackBerry 10 signed.
    Last edited by MrGlenn; 05-27-14 at 08:59 AM.
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    05-27-14 08:47 AM
  25. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    MrGlenn, thanks, I did totally miss it !
    Note : this is a third party android app (apk)
    05-27-14 09:55 AM

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