1. lift's Avatar
    Maybe someone here who knows a lot about this can check into it. The extracted '.signed' files for the debrick and radio are all the same exact file size between the 2 OS's. The '.signed' debrick file size for 10.3.2.680 and 10.3.2.798 are 2,933,569. The only difference is the signed date. Same with all the radio files. The '.signed' radio files for the Q5, Z10, Leap etc are the exact size between the .680 and .798. Again the only difference is the signed date. Could it be that LIME just took the .680 OS and gave it their own version number and released it as their own update?
    06-07-15 11:14 AM
  2. conite's Avatar
    No carriers have released either of these OSes. Only devices that are factory unlocked are getting them - which bypasses the carriers.

    They are different, but only slightly. Impossible to say with certainty what the changes are (other than the two OSes being 6 days apart, with 31 new apps).

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    06-07-15 11:17 AM
  3. lift's Avatar
    My understanding is that the only carrier that released .798 is LIME. Only shop BlackBerry devices are receiving .680.
    06-07-15 11:29 AM
  4. conite's Avatar
    My understanding is that the only carrier that released .798 is LIME. Only shop BlackBerry devices are receiving .680.
    Factory unlocked Classics are getting 798. The rest seem to be getting 680.

    I see no indication that Lime has released it.

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    06-07-15 11:31 AM
  5. lift's Avatar
    Looks like there were about 7 apps that were updated on .798 from .680. Are the radios the same?
    06-07-15 11:38 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    Looks like there were about 7 apps that were updated on .798 from .680. Are the radios the same?
    31 new apps:
    sys.data.asr-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.bluetooth-10.3.2.973
    sys.data.carrier_data-10.3.2.973
    sys.data.nuance_ve.CAH.sin_ji-10.3.2.599
    sys.data.nuance_ve.common-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.DUN.xander-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.ENG.kate-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.ENU.ava-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.FRC.amelie-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.FRF.thomas-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.GED.anna-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.ITI.alice-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.JPJ.kyoko-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.KOK.sora-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.MNC.li_li-10.3.2.599
    sys.data.nuance_ve.MNT.mei_jia-10.3.2.599
    sys.data.nuance_ve.NON.nora-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PLP.zosia-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PTB.luciana-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PTP.joana-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.RUR.milena-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.SPE.marisol-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.nuance_ve.SPM.angelica-10.3.2.604
    sys.data.wallpaper-10.3.2.972
    sys.data.zoneinfo-10.3.2.972
    sys.pim.attachments.card-10.3.2.575
    sys.pim.contacts-10.5.320.576
    sys.pim.email.card-10.3.2.1189
    sys.pim.email.composer.card-10.3.2.1089
    sys.pim.messages-10.3.2.615
    sys.settings-10.3.2.810

    As far as the radio is concerned, I have not done a bit-for-bit comparison, but I would imagine any change (if any) would be small.

    Edit: There do seem to be small differences in the Z30/Classic/Leap radios beyond version numbers when doing a bit compare of the library/firmware files. I didn't look at the others.

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    Last edited by conite; 06-07-15 at 12:11 PM.
    06-07-15 11:42 AM
  7. Sator's Avatar
    680 also has 6 newer files than 798.

    Posted via CB10
    06-07-15 11:55 AM
  8. Paul86's Avatar
    680 also has 6 newer files than 798.

    Posted via CB10
    Why didn't anyone else notice this? Which files?

    Posted via CB10
    06-07-15 01:20 PM
  9. KenV54's Avatar
    Are we looking at a possible hybrid here, loading the newer 680 apps over the 798 OS? Blitzing 680 over Sachesi leaving Newer Files Only checked ought to do it. Could there be a downside to that?

    I wonder what the development process was with these two releases, and whether there was a reason for making 680 official for Passport and 798 official for Classic, and if so, which files are specific for each phone, if the Core OS and radio are virtually identical.
    06-07-15 01:37 PM
  10. conite's Avatar
    Why didn't anyone else notice this? Which files?

    Posted via CB10
    This was noted in the relevant threads. I don't have the list, but minor version changes.

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    06-07-15 01:58 PM
  11. conite's Avatar
    Are we looking at a possible hybrid here, loading the newer 680 apps over the 798 OS? Blitzing 680 over Sachesi leaving Newer Files Only checked ought to do it. Could there be a downside to that?

    I wonder what the development process was with these two releases, and whether there was a reason for making 680 official for Passport and 798 official for Classic, and if so, which files are specific for each phone, if the Core OS and radio are virtually identical.
    I wouldn't download an entire blitz file for 6 minor bars.

    Don't lose sleep over the differences between the OSes - not worth another thought. They are inconsequential.

    Based on the activity at the BlackBerry server, a new beta should be expected soon - and that will be substantially newer.

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    Last edited by conite; 06-07-15 at 08:35 PM.
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    06-07-15 02:00 PM
  12. Sator's Avatar
    Why didn't anyone else notice this? Which files?

    Posted via CB10
    These are the newer files from 680:
    sys.data.quip.authtoken
    sys.escreens
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.eventcreate
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.ics
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.nav
    sys.pim.calender

    Posted via CB10
    06-07-15 08:10 PM
  13. Paul86's Avatar
    This was noted in the relevant threads. I don't have the list, but minor version changes.

    Z30STA100-5/10.3.2.798
    Thanks, I'm not gonna worry about those files. And like you said, we will likely be on something newer in a couple weeks

    Posted via CB10
    06-07-15 08:12 PM
  14. thurask's Avatar
    Incidentally, they appear to be part of different development branches; what the difference is escapes us at the moment, but it's there.

    The next beta program OS (and probably final for 10.3.2) should be one in 798's branch, probably 10.3.2.8something.
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    06-08-15 12:20 AM
  15. jwarman's Avatar
    I can definitely say that the 799 radio is better than the 681 radio on my VZW Z10. So whatever small changes were made to the radio have been a step forward for me. I can't really say the OS has been a whole lot better, maybe the RAM management is but haven't been watching closely enough also I may be experiencing fewer random reboots than I was on 680 but all of that is perception and not something I can state with hard proof.
    06-08-15 11:39 PM
  16. yhamaie's Avatar
    These are the newer files from 680:
    sys.data.quip.authtoken
    sys.escreens
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.eventcreate
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.ics
    sys.pim.calender.viewer.nav
    sys.pim.calender

    With the advent of Software Release 10.3.2.2134 (OS 10.3.2.2204 and Radio 10.3.2.2205) I have forgotten posting the following table.

    Code:
    OS			10.3.2.680		10.3.2.798
    Radio			10.3.2.681		10.3.2.799
    Software Release	10.3.2.440		10.3.2.516
    				
    # of newer apps		6			31
    				
    accounts		10.3.2.37		10.3.2.37
    adobeReader		10.4.4.5		10.4.4.5
    af_ZA			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    airtunes		10.320.0.19		10.320.0.19
    alice			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    amelie			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    android			10.3.2.110		10.3.2.110
    angelica		10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    anna			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    appworld		5.3.0.9			5.3.0.9
    arw			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    ar_SA			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    asr			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    as_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    AudioRecorder		10.3.2.5		10.3.2.5
    authtokens	NEW	10.3.2.796		10.3.2.786
    ava			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    az_AZ			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    barcode			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    bbhub			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    bbm			10.8.6.15		10.8.6.15
    bbswltcard		10.3.2.11		10.3.2.11
    BBVE			3.2.2.1003		3.2.2.1003
    bb_screen_reader	10.3.2.13		10.3.2.13
    be_BY			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    bgb			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    bg_BG			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    blackberry		10.5.0.1799		10.5.0.1799
    bluetooth		10.3.2.970	NEW	10.3.2.973
    bn_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    box			1.3.2.9			1.3.2.9
    browser			10.3.2.31		10.3.2.31
    bs_BA			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    btviewer		10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    bug_reporter_3		10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    cah			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    calculator		10.3.2.12		10.3.2.12
    calendar	NEW	10.320.0.569		10.320.0.563
    calllogdetails		10.3.2.34		10.3.2.34
    camera			10.320.0.13		10.320.0.13
    card			10.3.2.1087	NEW	10.3.2.1089
    card			10.3.2.1187	NEW	10.3.2.1189
    card			10.3.2.571	NEW	10.3.2.575
    cardholder		10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    cards			10.3.2.1		10.3.2.1
    carrier_data		10.3.2.970	NEW	10.3.2.973
    ca_ES			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    chat			10.3.2.61		10.3.2.61
    clixel_plugin		10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    clock			11.32.0.16		11.32.0.16
    common			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    compass			10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    contacts		10.5.320.572	NEW	10.5.320.576
    cs_CZ			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    cy_GB			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    czc			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    dad			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    da_DK			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    deviceswitch		10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    de_DE			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    dropbox			1.3.2.15		1.3.2.15
    dun			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    el_GR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    ena			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    eng			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    eni			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    enu			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    en_AU			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    en_CA			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    en_GB			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    en_US			10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    escreens	NEW	10.3.2.439		10.3.2.432
    es_ES			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    es_LA			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    es_US			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    et_EE			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    eu_ES			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    eventcreate	NEW	10.320.0.570		10.320.0.565
    evernote		5.5.0.515		5.5.0.515
    facebook		10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    facebook		10.6.31.2		10.6.31.2
    fa_IR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    fif			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    filepicker		11.32.0.16		11.32.0.16
    firstlaunch		10.3.2.39		10.3.2.39
    fi_FI			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    frc			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    frf			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    fr_CA			10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    fr_FR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    fuse			1.1.0.67		1.1.0.67
    ga_IE			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    ged			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    gl_ES			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    grg			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    gu_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    help			10.3.2.25		10.3.2.25
    he_IL			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    hg_IN			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    hi_IN			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    hotspotBrowser		10.3.2.31		10.3.2.31
    howto			10.3.2.24		10.3.2.24
    hr_HR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    hu_HU			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    hy_AM			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    ics		NEW	10.320.0.566		10.320.0.560
    id_ID			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    installhandlerui	10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    invokeTargetSelection	10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    is_IS			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    iti			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    it_IT			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    ja_JP			10.3.2.5		10.3.2.5
    joana			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    jpj			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    jv_ID			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    kate			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    ka_GE			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    kk_KZ			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    km_KH			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    kn_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    kok			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    ko_KR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    kyoko			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    launcher		10.13.2.14		10.13.2.14
    linkedin		10.1.31.322		10.1.31.322
    linkedin		10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    li_li			10.3.2.597	NEW	10.3.2.599
    lo_LA			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    lt_LT			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    luciana			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    lv_LV			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    maps			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    marisol			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    mediaplayer		10.3.2.14		10.3.2.14
    mei_jia			10.3.2.597	NEW	10.3.2.599
    messages		10.3.2.612	NEW	10.3.2.615
    milena			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    miracastviewer		10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    mk_MK			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    ml_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    mmagic			10.3.2.20		10.3.2.20
    mnc			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    mnt			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    mn_MN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    mr_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    ms_MY			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    nav		NEW	10.320.0.566		10.320.0.560
    nb_NO			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    NFCViewer		10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    nl_NL			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    non			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    nora			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    notification_card	10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    OfflineTimeshift	10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    or_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    passwordkeeper		10.3.2.27		10.3.2.27
    paymentsystem		10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    pa_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    pbcd			10.3.2.5		10.3.2.5
    perimeterbrowser	11.32.0.17		11.32.0.17
    phone			10.3.2.119		10.3.2.119
    phone_settings		10.3.2.35		10.3.2.35
    pictureeditor		10.320.0.6		10.320.0.6
    pictures		10.320.0.20		10.320.0.20
    picturesviewer		10.320.0.20		10.320.0.20
    plp			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    pl_PL			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    private			10.3.2.26		10.3.2.26
    progressmanager		10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    ptb			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    ptp			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    pt_BR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    pt_PT			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    rcse			10.3.2.18		10.3.2.18
    remember		10.3.2.275		10.3.2.275
    retaildemo		10.3.2.18		10.3.2.18
    retaildemoshim		127.1.0.47		127.1.0.47
    root			10.3.2.23		10.3.2.23
    ro_RO			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    rur			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    ru_RU			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    search			10.3.2.30		10.3.2.30
    settings		10.3.2.804	NEW	10.3.2.810
    setupbuffet		10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    shell			10.3.2.110		10.3.2.110
    simtoolkit_ui_app	10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    sin_ji			10.3.2.597	NEW	10.3.2.599
    sk_SK			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    sl_SI			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    smartcalling		10.3.2.8		10.3.2.8
    smartcard		10.3.2.20		10.3.2.20
    smartcardnfcdriver	1.0.0.27		1.0.0.27
    smarttags		10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    smarttriggers		10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    sora			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    spe			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    spm			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    sq_AL			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    sr_RS			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    sstg			10.13.2.14		10.13.2.14
    stg			10.13.2.15		10.13.2.15
    su_ID			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    sv_SE			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    sws			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    sysmon			10.3.2.12		10.3.2.12
    ta_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    textmessaging		10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    te_IN			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    thomas			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    th_TH			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    tl_PH			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    todtm			1.3.2.2			1.3.2.2
    traveler		10.3.2.3		10.3.2.3
    trt			10.3.2.4		10.3.2.4
    tr_TR			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    tt_RU			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    twitter			10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    twitter			10.5.31.12		10.5.31.12
    uk_UA			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    ur_PK			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    uz_UZ			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    videoplayer		10.320.0.17		10.320.0.17
    video_editor		10.3.2.13		10.3.2.13
    vi_VN			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    voicemailcompose	10.3.2.12		10.3.2.12
    voicemailsetup		10.3.2.65		10.3.2.65
    wallpaper		10.3.2.969	NEW	10.3.2.972
    wdmcclient		10.3.2.0		10.3.2.0
    weather			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    wifisendcard		10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    wtg			10.13.2.14		10.13.2.14
    xander			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
    youtube			10.3.2.2		10.3.2.2
    youtube			10.3.2.7		10.3.2.7
    zbbiocm			10.3.2.18		10.3.2.18
    zh			10.3.2.6		10.3.2.6
    zh_CN			10.3.2.8		10.3.2.8
    zh_HK			10.3.2.5		10.3.2.5
    zh_TW			10.3.2.8		10.3.2.8
    zoneinfo		10.3.2.969	NEW	10.3.2.972
    zosia			10.3.2.602	NEW	10.3.2.604
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